Discussion Simple proof that suicide is and always has been an option

[Obliviate]

Why in MY opinion, CTB is a credible option. It's quite simple.


When the universe created its little fucked up list of rules, the fact that we even have a choice to CTB is credible and logical enough. That's it. No over thinking any of it. We all have to die. It's inevitable.

It just happens that no one can stop you from self infliction of death onto yourself instead of letting another person, being, nature, genetics do it for you. Instead of someone else stabbing you, you just stabbed yourselves. The body's physical and biochemical reaction would mostly be the same. Our bodies are quite complex, yet simple. An injury is an injury. It's just logic.

Society demonizes suicide because it wants slaves to exploit and pedophiles want children to rape. So they would rather have you believe it's better to be raped and murdered or die of a long painful terminal disease than die in your own terms. Stripping our bodily autonomy before we even begin the first breath of life, they have decided our death.

I refuse to be exploited and enslaved.
I refuse to play this rigged game called hyper capitalism, rape, homelessness, murder.

So I choose to exit and end MY game. I never consented to even starting the game.

I quit. It's that simple.

I saw something along this quote a long time ago. "Suicide is considered a grave sin because your beating god at his own game and taking control of your own life"

Although I don't really believe in "god", I see society/government as god in this perspective.

Why should I wait, live a slaved poverty filled life, struggle after struggle, never ending, driven to insanity, just for an imbecile human to rape and murder me. Makes no logical sense whatsoever.

Although, the chances of being raped after death is quite common too. Their everywhere.

Can't be free even after death.

 

[WhatCouldHaveBeen32]

Society demonizes suicide because it wants slaves to exploit and pedophiles want children to rape.

And it enforces other things that guarantee that the children, especially the poor ones get groomed into lifestyles that are mentioned to be empowering but in actuality, it's just grooming.

So that some of them get trafficked by their fathers/mothers (which see that it's profitable, it happens everywhere) or they are put out there to be raped as young as """consenting""" as possible (which is 18 right now and should be higher because children are stubborn and they don't understand how they can get groomed and coerced only until it's too late).

"Suicide is considered a grave sin because your beating god at his own game and taking control of your own life"

100% I also believe this but with "life" as a concept, if I'm dead, I can't be brought back therefore I am untouchable, nobody can hurt me anymore, nobody can hurt anyone from my perspective anymore, I'm finally free.

 

[Obliviate]

And it enforces other things that guarantee that the children, especially the poor ones get groomed into lifestyles that are mentioned to be empowering but in actuality, it's just grooming.

So that some of them get trafficked by their fathers/mothers (which see that it's profitable, it happens everywhere) or they are put out there to be raped as young as """consenting""" as possible (which is 18 right now and should be higher because children are stubborn and they don't understand how they can get groomed and coerced only until it's too late).

100% I also believe this but with "life" as a concept, if I'm dead, I can't be brought back therefore I am untouchable, nobody can hurt me anymore, nobody can hurt anyone from my perspective anymore, I'm finally free.

Absolutely. New born babies literally get raped. Some are bred specifically for that into cults. It's sick. And that's the thing, your so called "god" sends innocent souls to instantly be raped? What kind of fuck shit is that.

The brain frontal lobe doesn't fully develop until the age of 26 which makes sense. When I turned 26 I feel like I gained full consciousness. Which essentially drove me mad. I'm disgusted to be alive.

Yes, society doesn't want us to be free so they degrade suicide as a sin. No one can hurt us anymore. The pain will stop. I swear if reincarnation exists, I'm fighting any and everyone up there. They would have to DRAG me to come back here.

 

[WhatCouldHaveBeen32]

Absolutely. New born babies literally get raped. Some are bred specifically for that into cults. It's sick. And that's the thing, your so called "god" sends innocent souls to instantly be raped? What kind of fuck shit is that.

The brain frontal lobe doesn't fully develop until the age of 26 which makes sense. When I turned 26 I feel like I gained full consciousness. Which essentially drove me mad. I'm disgusted to be alive.

Yes, society doesn't want us to be free so they degrade suicide as a sin. No one can hurt us anymore. The pain will stop. I swear if reincarnation exists, I'm fighting any and everyone up there. They would have to DRAG me to come back here.

I did read a comment on reddit with 15-20 upvotes that the owner of was deleted and it did talk about some cults that did similar things to traficked children from 3rd world countries that nobody would miss. I wouldn't even bat an eye. We live in a horror world. Epstein island was only the tip of the iceberg I fear. Maybe I'm leaning into a conspiracy but nah, after all that I've seen in this world, nah. I believe in humans no longer. There are many examples in history that would back this level of sadism, this level of torture and depravity. Nope. I believe in individuals but in collective humanity? nope.

I don't believe in reincarnation personally or religion, it doesn't make sense to me at all. If it does exists, I'm throwing hands, hard. I can see the frontal lobe developing as late as 26, I think it goes a bit longer than that but no more noteable changes around 25-26. I have personally started thinking about these things since I was like 14 which definitely did not do any good to my mental. (but I've went more in depth in researching them as I got older)

 

[Obliviate]

I did read a comment on reddit with 15-20 upvotes that the owner of was deleted and it did talk about some cults that did similar things to traficked children from 3rd world countries that nobody would miss. I wouldn't even bat an eye. We live in a horror world. Epstein island was only the tip of the iceberg I fear. Maybe I'm leaning into a conspiracy but nah, after all that I've seen in this world, nah. I believe in humans no longer. There are many examples in history that would back this level of sadism, this level of torture and depravity. Nope. I believe in individuals but in collective humanity? nope.

I don't believe in reincarnation personally or religion, it doesn't make sense to me at all. If it does exists, I'm throwing hands, hard. I can see the frontal lobe developing as late as 26, I think it goes a bit longer than that but no more noteable changes around 25-26. I have personally started thinking about these things since I was like 14 which definitely did not do any good to my mental. (but I've went more in depth in researching them as I got older)

They absolutely exist. I've had to stop researching cases so I don't drive myself into insanity although I fear it's too late.

lol I used to always say I'm throwing hands when I get up there And if they try to drag me back. Heavy on the HARD. I think people like us are just awakened. That's why we're so desperate to leave.

 

[wordsoutb4sumnelsin]

I think that afterlife shit basically just came from/around human fear and control. Fear of dying and others realizing they could use life/death as control, power.
Maybe just me, but I've never seen ANY ACTUAL evidence of an afterlife.

I keep coming back to the fact that other animals can't think of suicide. Other animals can be seriously injured and not help but just NEED to keep fighting to live. Have to give thanks to logic for the ability to have created methods we can use. Hopefully minimize time and pain for death that otherwise has to be at the end of whatever series of gambles.

 

[Obliviate]

I think that afterlife shit basically just came from/around human fear and control. Fear of dying and others realizing they could use life/death as control, power.
Maybe just me, but I've never seen ANY ACTUAL evidence of an afterlife.

I keep coming back to the fact that other animals can't think of suicide. Other animals can be seriously injured and not help but just NEED to keep fighting to live. Have to give thanks to logic for the ability to have created methods we can use. Hopefully minimize time and pain for death that otherwise has to be at the end of whatever series of gambles.

Honesty, I hope the after life exists. I didn't struggle all this way for their not to be anything after. We better be rewarded.
The only "proof" I've seen are NDE's and psychic mediums. And I think every human wants to believe in it.

But the factors around the after life were absolutely created for human control and fear. Religion is a great example.

You know I always thought about other species of animals and suicide. I'm sure there are cases of it. Other species are incredibly intelligent we don't want to underestimate them.

 

[wordsoutb4sumnelsin]

Honesty, I hope the after life exists. I didn't struggle all this way for their not to be anything after. We better be rewarded.
The only "proof" I've seen are NDE's and psychic mediums. And I think every human wants to believe in it.

But the factors around the after life were absolutely created for human control and fear. Religion is a great example.

You know I always thought about other species of animals and suicide. I'm sure there are cases of it. Other species are incredibly intelligent we don't want to underestimate them.

NDE's, psychic mediums, dreams, etc. have brain/scientific proof of why/how things work tho.

Lol and here's a human for ya that doesn't want to believe. Did when I was a kid. But I'd much rather things just be done when dead. For me the reward shit is in THIS life. Same as the god thing, anything we can imagine/want more than what is in this life is simply our brains abilities to imagine those things... It's the reason human created video/creativity is what "saved" me once upon a time. But been there, done that.

And yeah, at least the reading I did seemed to show how it's likely our distinct animal ability for logic that is not only responsible for being able to think about our deaths, but to actively, consciously choose...

 

[Obliviate]

NDE's, psychic mediums, dreams, etc. have brain/scientific proof of why/how things work tho.

Lol and here's a human for ya that doesn't want to believe. Did when I was a kid. But I'd much rather things just be done when dead. For me the reward shit is in THIS life. Same as the god thing, anything we can imagine/want more than what is in this life is simply our brains abilities to imagine those things... It's the reason human created video/creativity is what "saved" me once upon a time. But been there, done that.

And yeah, at least the reading I did seemed to show how it's likely our distinct animal ability for logic that is not only responsible for being able to think about our deaths, but to actively, consciously choose...

I want to see my cats and be with other animals and that's about it. Don't care about family, friends, and I only really care about "soulmate" when it's hormone time, a very human thing, and then I could care less.

Psychic medium readings seem believable with the whole "there's no way you could've possibly known that!1!1 situation but there's always that doubt in the mind.

There's times when I've doubted it. There's this one psychic who said something about 95 or 99% (something along that) of humans go to "heaven" I call BULLSHIT. Most humans are utterly disgusting and demonic. The amount of pedophiles in this world, no way that's true. If it's true, that means even the fairly evil "get in" which is just insulting.

 

[wordsoutb4sumnelsin]

I want to see my cats and be with other animals and that's about it. Don't care about family, friends, and I only really care about "soulmate" when it's hormone time, a very human thing, and then I could care less.

Psychic medium readings seem believable with the whole "there's no way you could've possibly known that!1!1 situation but there's always that doubt in the mind.

There's times when I've doubted it. There's this one psychic who said something about 95 or 99% (something along that) of humans go to "heaven" I call BULLSHIT. Most humans are utterly disgusting and demonic. The amount of pedophiles in this world, no way that's true. If it's true, that means even the fairly evil "get in" which is just insulting.

Lol dont you know about those tricks used in those psychic readings? I forget the details, but all observation and psychology and whatnot. Just real stuff. Guessing and being confident at worst haha. Damn, but now I just feel bad for not believing in something, and same, clearly being an asshole cuz I've only been annoyed by my dogs recently. Been ready to part from even them. Well, more like get them to someone that can give 'em more love instead of me who just sees the simple animal pieces like seeking reward and avoiding punishment... Ugh sorry to be such a downer...

OH! tho that thing about the % of people. Reminds me of that show "The Good Place" if you happened to watch. Lol it did a great job at showing exactly that; how silly the "rules" for getting to heaven are/would have to be. great show to maybe kill some of that afterlife worry by how those writers simply broke down so much

 

[Obliviate]

Lol dont you know about those tricks used in those psychic readings? I forget the details, but all observation and psychology and whatnot. Just real stuff. Guessing and being confident at worst haha. Damn, but now I just feel bad for not believing in something, and same, clearly being an asshole cuz I've only been annoyed by my dogs recently. Been ready to part from even them. Well, more like get them to someone that can give 'em more love instead of me who just sees the simple animal pieces like seeking reward and avoiding punishment... Ugh sorry to be such a downer...

OH! tho that thing about the % of people. Reminds me of that show "The Good Place" if you happened to watch. Lol it did a great job at showing exactly that; how silly the "rules" for getting to heaven are/would have to be. great show to maybe kill some of that afterlife worry by how those writers simply broke down so much

Well I don't know about general readings. I'm speaking more of the very detailed specific readings of the souls who have "passed on".

I have a kitty that passed away due to money hungry corporations. It was very traumatic. And the worst day. I'd like to think he's up there waiting for me so we can be reunited again. He was incredibly precious and sweet. I would've given my own life for his. I have cats now and I feel the same way for them. Love them so much but I am getting to that annoyed state of them. My biggest reason for staying here was for them and now I feel that's not enough anymore. Infact, I'm sacrificing myself so they would be taken care of in life insurance money.

I want all of us to be reunited someday. And I refuse to believe that we won't. There's gotta be SOMETHING out there. I refuse to believe that that's it. I won't see them again.

I infact did watch "The Good Place" a while ago and the ending gave me an existential crises, a whole panic attack of the "beauty" of being human and had a slight thought of trying to live and then I got over it the next day when I remembered taxes, rape, pedophilia, murder etc.

Lol there is absolutely NOTHING anyone can tell me that will prevent me from CTB. Nothing.