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how does sn/weight calculation work??
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i'm *113 pounds (i checked my scale a second time). i'm kind of really dumb when it comes to math and numbers (failed math in hs multiple times lol). i don't know if anyone's able to help with calculating. i can reopen my dms so people can message me. originally, i was just going to do 50ml and 25g of sn, but should i do a more specific measurement?
I'm wondering the same, I was going to do 20g but have heard that taking too much for your bodyweight drastically increases the amount of nausea and vomiting that will occur. It seems that doing less might be beneficial in terms of a successful and peaceful OD. I'm ~105lbs and planning on 17.5g … but am interested in seeing what others here suggest.
I'm 110 lbs and I'm going to do 15g for my first glass, and 10g for my second, instead of the recommended 17.5g. This will also leave me with 25g leftover that I can stash incase something goes wrong and I survive. I feel confident that 25g total will be plenty to absorb and kill me within a decent timeframe. I don't feel comfortable doing 25g and 25g, as I think it'll just make me violently sick. People have went into cardiac arrest with just 7g without following protocol, so I really don't feel a ton is necessary for someone my size or a similar size. Idk how to do the exact math either, but I think you'd be alright with rounding down to the recommended dose for someone that's 110. I really don't think a few grams will make a difference in your end result, though it may make a difference in how much you vomit and how long it takes to loose consciousness.
I'm wondering exactly what the biological mechanism is behind the onset of nausea in SN?
Does the stomach "sense" that there is poison in the body and trigger the nausea, or does the blood or the brain "sense" that there is poison in the body and trigger the nausea?
In the second case, the nausea would theoretically be irrelevant if the toxin is already in the blood, since the process could no longer be stopped by vomiting.
It's different if nausea is triggered by the stomach. In that case, vomiting leads to less SN being absorbed by the body. Could this be counteracted by drinking more water to dilute the concentration of SN in the water?
I'd be curious to read a statement from the SN experts on this forum.
Idk i weigh about 95 lbs. Im not sure about the 2 glasses thing, I think i will find it difficult enough to do the first one so i dont want to rely on a second one if that makes sense - in case i am mentally or physically unable to do it, I want to go with the first amount. Any more just as back up. Im thinking maybe 20g. I suppose their is not exactly much way of knowing the perfect amount to take. But willing to listen to advice if anyone is more informed than i am.
found this while also trying to search for the right math myself, or just base my personal math off the LD50. looking at this chart it seems to follow the math i kinda planned out just slightly less, lemme just share my notes
LD50 of SN in rats orally is: 180mg per kg / 81.63mg per lb
i calculated a few weights, but for this example i will use 110lbs
for 110lbs/49.9kg the LD50 dose would be 8.982g, you can probably round it but im not atp
personally, i planned to get that number for my weight, then double it so it'll be basically "LD100" aka should 100% kill any rat. im unsure if it's any different in humans, i have yet to collect data from case reports to see
but, on that chart it says 17.5g of SN for 110 lbs. if i doubled the LD50 for 110lbs it would be 17.9g rounded down to one decimal, so the chart, at least from that one number, seems to be a little less than the LD50 doubled, a -.4g difference really shouldn't change much i don't believe, so that chart seems to use that sorta math which seems legit, but i am not sure if their numbers are a little less for a reason or slight error, or if they made it so lower weights use slightly less but higher weights use slightly more, but im too lazy to calculate all those numbers at least rn
i think the PPH recommends 25g as maybe an overall amount that'll work for most people, or maybe a higher dose works faster? but ik too much can cause too much vomiting possibly. seems like a lot of factors to take in for this
if you're curious about the other weights i calculated myself (haven't weighed myself so i made my usual range to keep in my notes) here they are
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