What's up with the SN obsession on here?

[NameOfAction]

I mean, it's hardly the least painful, or most lethal, or even most available method. Plenty of people even survived it enough to report back. Wtf is up with that? Also, if anyone knows, why ctb? Surely hopping off the bus would be a better metaphor

(All this half in jest half in genuine interest, I am after all new here)

 

[idontknowwhatiam]

I mean, it's hardly the least painful, or most lethal, or even most available method. Plenty of people even survived it enough to report back. Wtf if up with that? Also, if anyone knows, why ctb? Surely hopping off the bus would be a better metaphor

(All this half in jest half in genuine interest, I am after all new here)

I think because of its effectiveness and relative quickness to ctb compared to other methods

 

[Radiate_Ruby]

I bought two bottles of SN, but I gave up on this method. It is for sure PAINless, but the side effects you get from the poisoning are no near peaceful.

 

[Arvayn]

Yeah, I still wonder this too, and I've been here for a few months. I think most prefer it due to the fact that it takes very little willpower compared to other methods such as jumping or hanging. There is also a big fear surrounding overdoses here, since they are regarded as a non-method thanks to a post made by a late member which advises against inefficient methods, including over-the-counter drug overdoses (ironically, the user notes in the very same post that specific combinations actually CAN be lethal).

The bottom line is, most people here don't have the willpower or interest to really educate themselves and ascertain what the easiest/best possible method for them is. They just want to do the bare minimum to get out quick. SN is physically painless, but it's extremely uncomfortable regardless. Headaches, air hunger, nausea...

There's also the issue of documentation. There are a lot of suicide methods out there, no doubt some of them much better than SN, but people don't have the knowledge on how to carry them out. SN is one of the most documented methods on the site. People feel more confident going through with it, because they have exact step-by-step instructions on what to do. Suicidal people don't want to experience any pain, and the prospect of making mistakes is scary, considering the potential consequences. They want to die so their consciousness stops.

Personally, the "smartest" suicide I've seen here is a guy who agreed that SN sucks, and instead died using research-grade opioids and benzos he purchased off of the grey market, causing a very pleasurable slip into unconsciousness, and then death. They're not very strongly regulated, since they are literally too pure to be safely used for recreational purposes (though they are VERY expensive). This will be my method too.

As for the origin of the 'catch the bus' idiom, I have no idea. I think it's just a relic from the old days of the forum, when the community was much smaller. Some member must have used it and it just happened to catch on.

 

[peewee]

Yeah, I still wonder this too, and I've been here for a few months. I think most prefer it due to the fact that it takes very little willpower compared to other methods such as jumping or hanging. There is also a big fear surrounding overdoses here, since they are regarded as a non-method thanks to a post made by a late member which advises against inefficient methods, including over-the-counter drug overdoses (ironically, the user notes in the very same post that specific combinations actually CAN be lethal).

The bottom line is, most people here don't have the willpower or interest to really educate themselves and ascertain what the easiest/best possible method for them is. They just want to do the bare minimum to get out quick. SN is physically painless, but it's extremely uncomfortable regardless. Headaches, fever, air hunger, nausea...

There's also the issue of documentation. There are a lot of suicide methods out there, no doubt some of them much better than SN, but people don't have the knowledge on how to carry them out. SN is one of the most documented methods on the site. People feel more confident going through with it, because they have exact step-by-step instructions on what to do. Suicidal people don't want to experience any pain, and the prospect of making mistakes is scary, considering the potential consequences. They want to die so their consciousness stops.

Personally, the "smartest" suicide I've seen here is a guy who agreed that SN sucks, and instead died using research-grade opioids and benzos he purchased off of the grey market, causing a very pleasurable slip into unconsciousness, and then death. They're not very strongly regulated, since they are literally too pure to be safely used for recreational purposes (though they are VERY expensive). This will be my method too.

As for the origin of the 'catch the bus' idiom, I have no idea. I think it's just a relic from the old days of the forum, when the community was much smaller. Some member must have used it and it just happened to catch on.

how do we source these chemicals? i have sn set up but interested in this, can i pm you?

 

[pelicanportal]

More violent methods aren't for everyone, and SN is what we seem to have for poisoning since better options are completely banned or more difficult to obtain. It does have a failure rate but I think a chunk of that is because people skip steps on protocol (fasting, antiemetic, underdosing). At least it seems that way.

I looked up ctb awhile back, don't know why it stuck. Better than "unalive/sewerslide" garbage censorship talk at least!

 

[NormallyNeurotic]

I think it's mostly because the most lethal methods are violent, more likely to set off SI, and more likely to traumatize bystanders (jumping, train, shotgun, etc)...

...but the methods that avoid that are more likely to fail, and have much worse consequences for failing (severe brain damage, nerve damage, organ damage, etc).

Also, pain. A lot are more painful.

 

[Arvayn]

how do we source these chemicals? i have sn set up but interested in this, can i pm you?

It depends on where you live, but in my case (Eastern Europe), the import customs are rather lax, so I just ordered overseas from Indian or Chinese laboratories where regulation tends to be lacking... You don't need to purchase huge doses, just snorting a few milligrams will kill you. The issue is coughing up the money and finding the supplier in the first place. Online resources like the Research Chemicals subreddit and the Psychonaut Wiki can help with this.

These threads were what led me down this rabbit hole:

What's in your suicide kit? I study pharmacology

I have Methylmethaqualone and Protonitazene (both are legal research chemical drugs, with proto being an opioid stronger than fentanyl) on me all the time because of a snitch that might ruin my life, I will overdose before cops bring me into any police station, even though the crime is small, I...

sanctioned-suicide.net

How I would sedate myself into death, legally. I study pharmacology.

So I made a thread that is now flooded with a million different ways to have a sedated death (https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/whats-in-your-suicide-kit-i-study-pharmacology.113882/page-4) with legal research chemicals that can be bought online, since I keep getting asked how I would do...

sanctioned-suicide.net

There's also an interesting guide buried in the first thread:

What's in your suicide kit? I study pharmacology

Propofol is enough as a single agent. But still I can mix others with propofol. Propofol + bupivacine, propofol + lidocaine or propofol + digoxin. Other drugs are just in the bag. I will not use them. I have an injection system that I can inject 1800 mg propofol to myself. This is enough alone...

sanctioned-suicide.net

And, no, I don't feel like chatting. Apologies.

 

[DeathSweetDeath]

Because after you've found it, the hard part is over; because it does seem to be reliably lethal as long as you take enough (7 grams isn't even half of any recommended dose) and as long as you aren't found in time to be "saved".

 

[doomedbynarrative]

There's a lot of extremely young suicidal people on here. More so in the last week or two thanks to that one YouTuber. Younger people tend to mentally latch onto things that are more popular or commonly done. SN has been more commonly used in the last handful of years. I'll let you do the rest of the math.

 

[Amarajoy]

Yeah, I still wonder this too, and I've been here for a few months. I think most prefer it due to the fact that it takes very little willpower compared to other methods such as jumping or hanging. There is also a big fear surrounding overdoses here, since they are regarded as a non-method thanks to a post made by a late member which advises against inefficient methods, including over-the-counter drug overdoses (ironically, the user notes in the very same post that specific combinations actually CAN be lethal).

The bottom line is, most people here don't have the willpower or interest to really educate themselves and ascertain what the easiest/best possible method for them is. They just want to do the bare minimum to get out quick. SN is physically painless, but it's extremely uncomfortable regardless. Headaches, fever, air hunger, nausea...

There's also the issue of documentation. There are a lot of suicide methods out there, no doubt some of them much better than SN, but people don't have the knowledge on how to carry them out. SN is one of the most documented methods on the site. People feel more confident going through with it, because they have exact step-by-step instructions on what to do. Suicidal people don't want to experience any pain, and the prospect of making mistakes is scary, considering the potential consequences. They want to die so their consciousness stops.

Personally, the "smartest" suicide I've seen here is a guy who agreed that SN sucks, and instead died using research-grade opioids and benzos he purchased off of the grey market, causing a very pleasurable slip into unconsciousness, and then death. They're not very strongly regulated, since they are literally too pure to be safely used for recreational purposes (though they are VERY expensive). This will be my method too.

As for the origin of the 'catch the bus' idiom, I have no idea. I think it's just a relic from the old days of the forum, when the community was much smaller. Some member must have used it and it just happened to catch on.

Fever?

 

[Arvayn]

Fever?

I've seen a few people describe feeling extremely hot and starting to sweat after taking SN. Though, upon consulting medical documentation, it seems fever isn't actually a documented symptom. I've edited it out of the message.

 

[wordsdontcomeout]

There's a lot of extremely young suicidal people on here. More so in the last week or two thanks to that one YouTuber. Younger people tend to mentally latch onto things that are more popular or commonly done. SN has been more commonly used in the last handful of years. I'll let you do the rest of the math.

Is it the T guy, but that was a couple years ago right? That's how I first heard of the forum

 

[Liebestod]

You tell me, imo carbon monoxide should be receiving the amount of hype SN gets, but at the same time it's a good thing that it's underrated. Those of us that know about it should just gatekeep it before people try and find a way around it. But than again you can't regulate chemistry or charcoal lmao.

 

[l1ablemistakes]

According to the YouTubers who make videos about this site (mostly tantacrul), the people who sell it encourage it on here to earn money. Not sure how true that is though.

 

[Defenestration]

J'ai acheté deux flacons de SN, mais j'ai abandonné cette méthode. Certes, elle est indolore, mais les effets secondaires de l'intoxication sont loin d'être supportables.

Not dolor...but panic....

 

[thevoidpointer]

It's easy to obtain and you don't have to deal with darknets

 

[blush]

i think it's bc of the high lethality paired with the little mess </3

 

[Defenestration]

Il y a beaucoup de très jeunes personnes suicidaires ici. Surtout ces deux dernières semaines, à cause de ce youtubeur. Les jeunes ont tendance à s'identifier aux choses les plus populaires ou les plus courantes. Le terme « sacrifice social » est devenu plus fréquent ces dernières années. Je vous laisse faire le calcul.

Who is this youtubeur?

 

[CenturiesEnd]

You tell me, imo carbon monoxide should be receiving the amount of hype SN gets, but at the same time it's a good thing that it's underrated. Those of us that know about it should just gatekeep it before people try and find a way around it. But than again you can't regulate chemistry or charcoal lmao.

Carbon monoxide has been known for years. The reason it's not widely used is because it's very difficult to source proper carbon monoxide that can cause swift death and it's also risky in residential areas that often have alarms or some either kind of detector that can cause you to be found before you fully die. There's too much that can go wrong and finding pure-grade CO as well as a contraption that you can use to ctb is difficult and expensive for most of us.

 

[Defenestration]

Le monoxyde de carbone est connu depuis des années. S'il n'est pas largement utilisé, c'est parce qu'il est très difficile de se procurer du monoxyde de carbone de qualité suffisante pour une mort rapide, et que son utilisation est risquée dans les zones résidentielles, souvent équipées d'alarmes ou de détecteurs permettant de vous repérer avant que votre décès ne soit complet. Les risques sont trop importants, et trouver du CO pur ainsi qu'un dispositif permettant de l'inhaler est difficile et coûteux pour la plupart d'entre nous.

Yes its exactly this

 

[Liebestod]

Carbon monoxide has been known for years. The reason it's not widely used is because it's very difficult to source proper carbon monoxide that can cause swift death and it's also risky in residential areas that often have alarms or some either kind of detector that can cause you to be found before you fully die. There's too much that can go wrong and finding pure-grade CO as well as a contraption that you can use to ctb is difficult and expensive for most of us.

Well I understand that, I mean if you own or rent a house I don't see how it would be an issue if you burn charcoal. The alarms would sound but that's it. You don't need pure industrial grade canisters. CO is produced from incomplete combustion. Charcoal produces more than enough to be lethal because charcoal is over 95% carbon based. Yes it is a risk to other people around you and to that I say do it in a place where you'll be alone and leave a warning sign. As for finances, I really don't see it being that expensive besides finding a place to do it. You could even use a tent. Charcoal is cheap and you don't even need a grill, you can use cast iron skillets. As for swiftness, all I can say is leave the charcoal burning for a good amount of time until concentrations reach 10,000+ ppm than come back to your house or tent and take a couple breaths and lose consciousness than die in a few minutes. You could also take sleeping pills or alcohol to make the experience even more swift and painless than it already would be. As for something that could go wrong I'll say this. The only thing that could go wrong is if you are discovered. There are plenty of users who attempted this method who survived only because they were found. They survived and had minimal brain damage at that. Some even attempted again and succeeded due to not being found early. My point is charcoal burning suicide is relatively low overall despite it actually being effective. There are variables in play that one would have to recognize but with a bit of research I don't see how this is a complicated method. Also you could use generators as well but I've rambled for too long so I won't go down that rabbit hole.

 

[cowboypants]

If people follow the PPH protocol, with all the recommended meds. Its one of the most accessible "painless" methods out there. You can raw dog it, but then it won't be really pleasant. Besides, it has really low long-lasting side effects if you do survive. Many methods have the risk of leaving you disabled

 

[uchiha_sasuke]

I mean, it's hardly the least painful, or most lethal, or even most available method. Plenty of people even survived it enough to report back. Wtf is up with that? Also, if anyone knows, why ctb? Surely hopping off the bus would be a better metaphor

(All this half in jest half in genuine interest, I am after all new here)

The culture forum is quite old and needs a lot of change as someone that was here three years ago and came back, I was expecting a lot of change, but everything's just the same, people asking the same questions, as three years ago.

 

[IAmLilith]

I bought two bottles of SN, but I gave up on this method. It is for sure PAINless, but the side effects you get from the poisoning are no near peaceful.

Hi, where did you get them? I'm in the US and can't find any.

 

[Mr.Tristesse]

Back when SN was first being explored and discussed It wss extremely easy to obtain and very cheap. All of its other properties were assessed and gauged in light of that fact. Even with tighter restrictions the attention on it reminded as a relic of the previous state of affairs. People are naturally drawn to oral ingestion.

I agree that SN falls short of what you would expect something given that kind of treatment to be.