Method The "night-night" method mega thread.

[heyy]

I need help with this method :/
What I plan: I will use a nylon rope and make a slipknot. And u really have to put the cornhole bags on your neck? Just asking cuz there are methods like this where u do it with the part under your chin (oposite of neck). Sorry my english vocab and grammar is very limited... I'll try my best to make it understandable for you.
What is the difference between that? I try to put pressure on my neck (what the pic shows) but it just only feels uncomfortable. Sorry I think I am doing smth wrong. Can u describe detailed where u have to put these bags?
I really feel like I am way too stupid to do it correctly
I forgot to mention that the rope/ranchet or so will put pressure on your respiratory system and you can't breathe anymore. What do you do to avoid this??
tysm for your time!! <3

 

[shadybear]

if u have long hair dont even try

not gonna lie, this method seems a little TOO peaceful and convenient. Are there any downsides we're not being told about?

its just a pain to get right and if u have long hair impossible

 

[asthedayends00]

if u have long hair dont even try

its just a pain to get right and if u have long hair impossible

Why did you choose this method over others

 

[shadybear]

Why did you choose this method over others

seemed like the best till my stupid hair got in the way lol

 

[pesty]

Tried it didnt work...eyes and face got read but even after 2 min didn't faint..

 

[ThePlanIsInMotion]

I doubt anyone cares, but I'll be attempting to CTB this method in about 10 minutes. I've got a ratchet style belt, 2 pairs of balled up socks, and elastic cording that will help hold the socks in place. All my prep is done, and I'm ready to go. If I fail, I'll update this thread. If I don't update, you can at least know that if done correctly, it's valid.

 

[passedawayinapril]

Hey everyone,

Been talking to a lot of people in the chat and trying to explain this method, and one user wanted me to make a post about it, so here goes everything.

We're going after a classic idea of using a blood choke, except, it will be against ourselves. In the privacy of our own homes. In a fully relaxed state.

This method is fully capable and will kill you very fast. I know this because it's what we were taught in the Marine Corps.

First, you're going to want some Gorilla tape OR a tree ratchet.

Second, get two Sackhole/Cornhole bags.

Now, depending on what you're using, you'll want to lie on the ground and put the bags on these two exact areas on your neck (In blue).

The reason we're lying on the ground is that we want to be able not to have to fuss over putting the bags on us and making sure they don't fall out of place before we use the ratchet or the tape. You're putting the bags on these two areas to go after the internal carotid arteries.

Start cinching the ratchet closed or wrap the tape around your neck once. Is everything feeling good? I'm glad. If not, then uncinch it a little and place the bags. You want to make sure that you're not compressing the windpipe as that could cause you to freak out a little.

We want this to be painless and fast.

After you're comfortable, sit down if you want to or stand up. Do whatever you want honestly. Start wrapping the tape around your neck more and a little tighter or start closing the ratchet more.

In about 5-20 seconds you will pass out. After that, it's pretty much game over unless you somehow hit the ratchet release. That's why I said we could also use tape as well. With the gorilla tape, it will make sure that you don't inadvertently try to tear the tap off... because it will be strong as hell around your neck.

After you pass out, it will only take a few minutes, and you will be brain dead from the complete lack of blood flow to your brain.

I think I've explained this pretty well and I hope you guys understand the method. If not, please don't hesitate and I'm sure that I can help you out or someone else in the community can help you out.

Great

 

[ThePlanIsInMotion]

Update #1: So far, all failures, tried maybe 5 times with slight adjustments, here's what I've learned:

-BALLED up socks I don't think will work. I basically had them the way you would have them in your drawer, but then folded in on themselves again. I think the blob type shape is causing issues. - Current solution: I've taken one pair of socks, and rolled them up from toe to heel. I then rubberbanded each sock, so they form a bit of a cylinder shape. I believe it will be easier to apply pressure this way.

-SWALLOWING is an issue. Make sure you are well hydrated. I don't have an actual ratchet strap, so I'm using a belt that has a ratchet style lock. However, it is a belt, so there is some give, and when I swallow, it's expanding the belt

-I'm confident I've found the right spots. At about the 45-60 second mark I start fading a little, but not enough to feel confident in final success. All data in this thread says 20 seconds to start feeling it...I'm not there yet

-I can confirm it is basically painless. There is a certain level of discomfort where the socks are pushed in on the carotid, but I wouldn't call it "pain". I have felt like my head was swelling up, and I haven't ended up with a headache yet.

Back to trying now, as previously mentioned...if I don't reply by tomorrow, then it ends in success.

 

[ThePlanIsInMotion]

Update #2: Complete failure. A few hours of trying now. I've been "close" a few tmes, but then I've just lost it completely, and end up just cutting off the jugular. I'm not sure what I'm doing differently now, but my situation is about to get uniquely more difficult as I will no longer have a place to stay, in a foreign country, with no money. I basically have 1 day to figure this out. New notes:

-If you get the jugular, I don't even know if that will work, but it is extremely unpleasant. The pressure in the head is unbearable...at least it was for me
-In the middle of attempts, I decided to try a partial suspension, that was way worse. Like...way way worse. Either I'm doing something wrong with that one, or it's just a terrible way to go.

I'll update again later...or I'll be successful.

 

[notreallybored]

It would work with an endless ratchet strap.


For a better idea of how to use it, watch this:



The best way to think about it is that the ratchet is going around your neck (with your padding), instead of the desk.



I can't speak for anyone else, but the method is pretty much painless. The biggest thing that might happen is that you'll feel your head "expand" a little more and feel the pressure around your neck. I've been blood choked multiple times in the Marines, and the only thing that I ever felt was the other person pressing against my neck with their arms. Then I started passing out, and I would have to tap out, or I would have been knocked out completely.

Something very important, if anyone is still kind of confused, then this video is PERFECT at what you're trying to execute. Except we're going for a little more padding to allow us to cover more ground, effectively cutting off MORE of the carotid arteries.





I would say that you would want to have the ratchet on the back of your neck, so the strap is in the front. So imagine that the cornhole bags or whatever is on your neck for padding has the strap directly in the middle of it. Then you can start tightening the ratchet behind your neck.



This is another thing that you can do if you want to, I won't CTB with a bag on my head though. With the blood choke, I want to pass out and have the brain have no blood at all. I want to be able to breathe perfectly fine while I start passing out and then just go from there.

Though, I will say this, cutting off oxygen and then suffocating from there will be more efficient as you're cutting off both the blood to your brain AND the Oxygen.



This will completely depend on the person honestly. With the ratchet method, you DO NOT even have to apply that much pressure (As stated in the video above). You can tighten it more though if you want to make sure that you know it's barely going to budge. You're still cutting off the blood flow to your brain though. You just want to make sure that the ratchet is tight enough to your liking and keeping the bags in place.

The reason I recommended both as stated before is that it will come down to personal preference. If the tape bothers your skin too much, go with the ratchet, or vise versa.



As stated before, you just want to go with just enough or just a little over so that you start cutting off the circulation. It completely comes down to personal preference. With the ratchet or tape though, you have MORE pressure being put against the bags which will allow more pressure against the arteries.



It will just take practice to find your sweet spot. I hope that I described everything as much as possible in this update.



Exactly, or if you want to think of it differently, it's the specific parts of the arm in the linked video above.



You could I guess. The way I think you're talking about it, I would personally tie it to the door and then the other part of it around my neck. Then I would be on my knees and make sure the line is straight. After that, I would lean forward.

The HUGE problem with doing that though is if it's not applying enough pressure and your body goes limp, then the padding could come loose and then you have no pressure against the arteries so it could be a failed attempt.



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I think I've covered every message so far.

ב''ה,

CO2 buildup is noted to cause the panic response. That's all I want to add to this.

 

[ThePlanIsInMotion]

Update #3: Was not successful yesterday after around 20 attempts. I ran out of time, unfortunately, but a life jacket was thrown to me, so I have more time now, and will continue to try. After the failed partial suspension, my throat/ears/eyes/head really hurt though, so I'm taking it easy today. I'll re post when I attempt again.

 

[TooLateNow]

Hey everyone,

Been talking to a lot of people in the chat and trying to explain this method, and one user wanted me to make a post about it, so here goes everything.

We're going after a classic idea of using a blood choke, except, it will be against ourselves. In the privacy of our own homes. In a fully relaxed state.

This method is fully capable and will kill you very fast. I know this because it's what we were taught in the Marine Corps.

First, you're going to want some Gorilla tape OR a tree ratchet.

Second, get two Sackhole/Cornhole bags.

Now, depending on what you're using, you'll want to lie on the ground and put the bags on these two exact areas on your neck (In blue).

The reason we're lying on the ground is that we want to be able not to have to fuss over putting the bags on us and making sure they don't fall out of place before we use the ratchet or the tape. You're putting the bags on these two areas to go after the internal carotid arteries.

Start cinching the ratchet closed or wrap the tape around your neck once. Is everything feeling good? I'm glad. If not, then uncinch it a little and place the bags. You want to make sure that you're not compressing the windpipe as that could cause you to freak out a little.

We want this to be painless and fast.

After you're comfortable, sit down if you want to or stand up. Do whatever you want honestly. Start wrapping the tape around your neck more and a little tighter or start closing the ratchet more.

In about 5-20 seconds you will pass out. After that, it's pretty much game over unless you somehow hit the ratchet release. That's why I said we could also use tape as well. With the gorilla tape, it will make sure that you don't inadvertently try to tear the tap off... because it will be strong as hell around your neck.

After you pass out, it will only take a few minutes, and you will be brain dead from the complete lack of blood flow to your brain.

I think I've explained this pretty well and I hope you guys understand the method. If not, please don't hesitate and I'm sure that I can help you out or someone else in the community can help you out.

can you use string instead of tape/ratchet? and can you fill a sock or something with rice to replace cornhole bag.

 

[Anonymousa]

can you use string instead of tape/ratchet? and can you fill a sock or something with rice to replace cornhole bag.

I want to also know if something else can be used instead of the cornbag. I wondering if I use my plushies instead. I desperately want to die now.

 

[MrSuicide]

I tried CTBing using the night-night method last year with a rope ratchet and two bean bags. Honestly a massive pain in the ass and the biggest issue with this method is actually figuring out how to use the rope ratchet and keeping everything together. Tightening it in my opinion is easier however. I practiced using my leg and I could use it but not that well. The bean bags I ordered were too big for my neck and I just rage quit.

I want to also know if something else can be used instead of the cornbag. I wondering if I use my plushies instead. I desperately want to die now.

Bean bags are preferred because they're flat, thick, and firm. Folded shirts would probably work if they fit that description? I honestly wouldn't recommend trying to improvise on this method though because if you fuck it up, it is going to be extremely difficult to loosen the ratchet around your neck. Like imagine the already difficult tool being x4 times harder to use. And suffocating to death is not pleasant at all.

 

[CinerateX]

I tried CTBing using the night-night method last year with a rope ratchet and two bean bags. Honestly a massive pain in the ass and the biggest issue with this method is actually figuring out how to use the rope ratchet and keeping everything together. Tightening it in my opinion is easier however. I practiced using my leg and I could use it but not that well. The bean bags I ordered were too big for my neck and I just rage quit.

Bean bags are preferred because they're flat, thick, and firm. Folded shirts would probably work if they fit that description? I honestly wouldn't recommend trying to improvise on this method though because if you fuck it up, it is going to be extremely difficult to loosen the ratchet around your neck. Like imagine the already difficult tool being x4 times harder to use. And suffocating to death is not pleasant at all.

What kinds of beanbags would work best do you think? Any particular advice on filling for them? And one other thing, in a video of the marine doing the blood choke above, the arm is on either side of his neck, whilst in the image, the bags are placed behind the neck. Which one is best?

 

[decisive.housewife]

Good day to all you guys! I am brand new member, a rookie if you want, from a small country in the Balkans. After 2 botched spine surgeries, pain in my body became unbearable, so I put all my affairs in order, left my company to my dear colleagues to run (telling them I hurt my back a little, and that I will be back after holidays, end of January max). Nobody, not even my closest friends and my family, knows about my physical state (I literally have to save my energy to have 3-4 days when pain is relatively tolerable, in order to book a hotel and ctb there in peace). I am reading all of these threads, but this massive opus of Mr. Kooz seems the most reliable way for me. I just learned about one similar way-instead of these bean or corn bags, is it possible using classic plastic bag (I have read a lot about erotic asphyxiation suicides, both intentional or not). Also, instead of putting 2 bags, is it possible to use one, and instead of two bags, maybe I should put some wider belt arround my neck (as Robin Williams did, he did partial hanging in his closet). There are tons of accidental deaths due to erotic and s&m games I've read about, even the police often make mistakes because investigators are not familiar with this method. Like Mr. Kooz said, it takes practice, and I am determined to succeed, no matter how long it takes. Still, I don't have much time, since my right arm started to feel numb (I also have damaged nerve in right arm and constant pain in neck and head). I am deeply sorry for such a long message, but I am hoping to find some kind of mentor here, or at least to hear some helpful advice. I see that a lot of people here are only flirting with idea of ctb (which is ok and normal, contemplating about it is one thing, and executing it is another thing; but I have no intention of wasting anybody's time, since the time is the most valuable thing we have), and I am really panicking because I was thinking I would have at least 2 months left to read some favorite books and spend time with my old mother, but the pain is worsening on daily basis, so I have only couple of lucid hours daily which I spend reading these forum and preparing myself to go. Sorry if my English isn't perfect, and sorry if I broke some rule maybe? Thanks in advance for any input, anything will be highly appreciated.

 

[dogbird]

I want to try this method and I have gotten the materials for a while now.
I'm just really afraid of doing it wrong.
Do the pouches have to go inside the strap around your neck? Or should they go outside the leash?
I figure it's the first option.
But I'm really scared to do it wrong.
I've had attempts in the past and it's only ruined my life more not doing things correctly.
I haven't found a tree ratchet in my country so I ordered one from abroad a couple of months ago when I read this.

 

[Jon Arbuckle]

not gonna lie, this method seems a little TOO peaceful and convenient. Are there any downsides we're not being told about?

horrendously low success rate.

 

[dogbird]

horrendously low success rate.

What happens if I fail with this method? What are the consequences?
I have been testing the method. Putting the bags in the right place I started to feel a little dizzy so I think I'm on the right track.
But I am afraid to do it and fail.
If I fail I will be a mentally ill person or something?

 

[Thomas_Europe]

What happens if I fail with this method? What are the consequences?
I have been testing the method. Putting the bags in the right place I started to feel a little dizzy so I think I'm on the right track.
But I am afraid to do it and fail.
If I fail I will be a mentally ill person or something?

Hi

On the one hand I find this method very appealing. On the other hand it sounds too good to be true...

I don´t know about the success rate but the big advantage - at least what it looks like to me - is that you really can´t screw up. Either you manage to suppress the blood flow to your brain with the obvious consequence or you don´t without any harm done. So I suppose nobody will release that you just tried to kill yourself. But perhaps there are some experts here who could shed more light on that question.

And one other thing: As far as I understand it you just need to apply a little bit of pressure, nothing compared to the force required to choke a person. So if you fail, you still should be able to breathe through your windpipe and free yourself.

 

[Gruffin]

I got the cornhole bags and as soon as I handled them a little it became very obvious they are not fit for this job at all, they are much too big and firm to apply the narrow pressure needed. The hooked ratchet straps linked are also not designed to make the type of loop you need. I'm going to try a nylon ratchet belt and balled up socks next as I think that might work but I think OP has come up with this method purely theoretically based on what it takes to choke someone out with arms and most of the advice given here (esp using tape) should be taken with a grain of a salt.

 

[Gruffin]

After some experimenting the closest I've gotten is using a ratchet belt and two tied off socks that have the contents of one cornhole bag split between them. Maybe my placement is off but I havent been able to get so much as dizzy, just pressure in my head. This seems the best method because there's no real consequence for failure and it's not half as uncomfortable as any other method but I'm losing hope that it's actually viable

 

[dogbird]

Ok, I think I'm doing something wrong or actually this method is not that good?
I've done a lot of practice so I know well where to put the cornsacks.
I'm using exactly that. Cornsacks stuffed with beans and ratchet.
I tried to make it for good today but didn't get it right .
I didn't get to be unconscious ....
A minute or maybe two passed and I saw in a mirror that neither face was swollen.
If I stood up I felt very bad so I stayed in bed.
But I could still stand up and walk
. 3 minutes passed.
And I got scared
"I'm not losing consciousness, what if I have a heart attack or a stroke because of this? And I die in a painful way or worse, I don't die after the pain".
I really made sure I did everything right.

 

[Thomas_Europe]

This seems the best method because there's no real consequence for failure and it's not half as uncomfortable as any other method but I'm losing hope that it's actually viable

I agree. I also did try it… But on the other hand if it is that unreliable how can it be a method for combat. Perhaps we are doing something wrong?

 

[bbmaas12]

how much sound will it make, can i doo this at my parents house while they are asleep?

 

[StonerVsAlly]

so basically all i need to do is wrapping the rachet/tape with the bags behind my neck as hard as possible? that doesn't sounds hard, tho idk if it'd be easy to make sure the sack stay in place when i wrap it with rachet/tape

 

[StonerVsAlly]

is gorilla tape really necessary? can i just any big tape like something like flex tape for example?

 

[Hojag]

Hey everyone,

Been talking to a lot of people in the chat and trying to explain this method, and one user wanted me to make a post about it, so here goes everything.

We're going after a classic idea of using a blood choke, except, it will be against ourselves. In the privacy of our own homes. In a fully relaxed state.

This method is fully capable and will kill you very fast. I know this because it's what we were taught in the Marine Corps.

First, you're going to want some Gorilla tape OR a tree ratchet.

Second, get two Sackhole/Cornhole bags.

Now, depending on what you're using, you'll want to lie on the ground and put the bags on these two exact areas on your neck (In blue).

The reason we're lying on the ground is that we want to be able not to have to fuss over putting the bags on us and making sure they don't fall out of place before we use the ratchet or the tape. You're putting the bags on these two areas to go after the internal carotid arteries.

Start cinching the ratchet closed or wrap the tape around your neck once. Is everything feeling good? I'm glad. If not, then uncinch it a little and place the bags. You want to make sure that you're not compressing the windpipe as that could cause you to freak out a little.

We want this to be painless and fast.

After you're comfortable, sit down if you want to or stand up. Do whatever you want honestly. Start wrapping the tape around your neck more and a little tighter or start closing the ratchet more.

In about 5-20 seconds you will pass out. After that, it's pretty much game over unless you somehow hit the ratchet release. That's why I said we could also use tape as well. With the gorilla tape, it will make sure that you don't inadvertently try to tear the tap off... because it will be strong as hell around your neck.

After you pass out, it will only take a few minutes, and you will be brain dead from the complete lack of blood flow to your brain.

I think I've explained this pretty well and I hope you guys understand the method. If not, please don't hesitate and I'm sure that I can help you out or someone else in the community can help you out.

Guess I understand now how wrong I made it last night...

Not that I was in my mind, so failure was expected (and I'm half glad for having failing).

My right lung is crackling a little, my neck is in hell pain and my eyes still sore. Are these exepected syntoms from a failed attempt?

 

[HereIGoAgain24]

I'm also wondering about this. I'm worried about trying to get the Gorilla tape off if I fail.

 

[dieschwarzekatze]

Ive been following this thread for a few days and read where the "issue" lies for a few folks. did some test runs myself and got close to passout so i'm fairly certain its viable.

Here's something i dont think has been mentioned or maybe explained poorly (did a lot of skimming and mostly stuck to reading our late mentor Kooz): The main idea is the goal is to rear naked chock ourselves. finding the carotid artery helps but i think a better method for some of yall is to basically use the cornhole bags like an elbow. my dumbass forgot to get some tape but luckily it came with a storage bag that conveniently enough fits 2 laying flat essentially becoming my "elbow"
If you're doing it right you should pass out quite quickly. i'll admit my testing was more preplanning. plan to drink and take DPH shortly before to help calm me down but be alert enough-ish. a suggestion i have would be to lie the 2 bags next to each other and tape them together so you can fold them like a book creating our "elbow" from there the rest should just be making adjustments and testing. i may update before i ctb tonight with updates on my testing, im tired in physical pain and facing eviction from depression. i'd rather go into the darkness than struggle homeless.

is gorilla tape really necessary? can i just any big tape like something like flex tape for example?

from what ive read the any tape will work so long as it stays in place. i think Kooz suggested more out of "i know this works" but so long as the end goal is satified the exact type of tape shouldn't matter. i didnt use tape and my testing got decent results