Method The "night-night" method mega thread.

[sad_dude]

Are you sure that method is painless?

Have anyone tried this method and successfully ctb?

(same question
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[heyilikeicecream]

hii just looking to get my question answered. can this strap work? i watched the video, it was super helpful!!

https://www.clasohlson.com/se/Spannband-svart,-bredd-25-mm/p/41-2851 (idk if you're allowed to share links, i'm pretty new)

 

[SomedayorNexttime]

Hey everyone,

Been talking to a lot of people in the chat and trying to explain this method, and one user wanted me to make a post about it, so here goes everything.

We're going after a classic idea of using a blood choke, except, it will be against ourselves. In the privacy of our own homes. In a fully relaxed state.

This method is fully capable and will kill you very fast. I know this because it's what we were taught in the Marine Corps.

First, you're going to want some Gorilla tape OR a tree ratchet.

Second, get two Sackhole/Cornhole bags.

Now, depending on what you're using, you'll want to lie on the ground and put the bags on these two exact areas on your neck (In blue).

The reason we're lying on the ground is that we want to be able not to have to fuss over putting the bags on us and making sure they don't fall out of place before we use the ratchet or the tape. You're putting the bags on these two areas to go after the internal carotid arteries.

Start cinching the ratchet closed or wrap the tape around your neck once. Is everything feeling good? I'm glad. If not, then uncinch it a little and place the bags. You want to make sure that you're not compressing the windpipe as that could cause you to freak out a little.

We want this to be painless and fast.

After you're comfortable, sit down if you want to or stand up. Do whatever you want honestly. Start wrapping the tape around your neck more and a little tighter or start closing the ratchet more.

In about 5-20 seconds you will pass out. After that, it's pretty much game over unless you somehow hit the ratchet release. That's why I said we could also use tape as well. With the gorilla tape, it will make sure that you don't inadvertently try to tear the tap off... because it will be strong as hell around your neck.

After you pass out, it will only take a few minutes, and you will be brain dead from the complete lack of blood flow to your brain.

I think I've explained this pretty well and I hope you guys understand the method. If not, please don't hesitate and I'm sure that I can help you out or someone else in the community can help you out.

Thank you so much for this. You don't know how much it means to me that you shared this. Thank you endlessly

 

[heyilikeicecream]

i need some help, what am i doing wrong?

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i have padding, one folded sock on each side with duct tape around my neck and the strap. i did lay down with everything but felt nothing. on my first try, i did two socks on each side but that turned out to be a bit hard, so.

 

[_RustyLeaf321]

i need some help, what am i doing wrong?

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i have padding, one folded sock on each side with duct tape around my neck and the strap. i did lay down with everything but felt nothing. on my first try, i did two socks on each side but that turned out to be a bit hard, so.

I encountered the same problem as you. Until i tried it while standing up, which makes sense, since when you're standing the blood have much more dificulty getting up to your brain. While doing the finger on carrotids test while standing, i could feel the effects within less than 10sec. I believe that it just takes a little longer when laying down. So in your case i think it just needs more time for your brain to lack oxygen. So what i'd recommend is first to be sure your padding works while standing before doing it laying down.

 

[heyilikeicecream]

I encountered the same problem as you. Until i tried it while standing up, which makes sense, since when you're standing the blood have much more dificulty getting up to your brain. While doing the finger on carrotids test while standing, i could feel the effects within less than 10sec. I believe that it just takes a little longer when laying down. So in your case i think it just needs more time for your brain to lack oxygen. So what i'd recommend is first to be sure your padding works while standing before doing it laying down.

okay, thank you so much!

 

[Chocoflo]

Merci pour ces éléments. Que pensez-vous d'un tensiomètre autour du coup à la place de l'attache à cliquet ?

 

[hell toupee]

For people having trouble holding the cornbags in place, just get a cheap cervical collar - they are less than $10 on Amazon. Put the sandbags or whatever hard object you want at your carotids, and use the cervical collar to hold in place. Then tighten the ratchet strap around the brace.

The added bonus of using the brace is no pressure is applied to your neck directly, since the ratchet straps are going around the outside of the brace, this means there is no pressure on the airway whatsoever.

Golf balls might work better than bean bags - especially if you have a tightened brace holding them in pace. Not sure, just an idea.

 

[HD72]

For people having trouble holding the cornbags in place, just get a cheap cervical collar - they are less than $10 on Amazon. Put the sandbags or whatever hard object you want at your carotids, and use the cervical collar to hold in place. Then tighten the ratchet strap around the brace.

The added bonus of using the brace is no pressure is applied to your neck directly, since the ratchet straps are going around the outside of the brace, this means there is no pressure on the airway whatsoever.

Golf balls might work better than bean bags - especially if you have a tightened brace holding them in pace. Not sure, just an idea.

Anyone have any opinions on this working

 

[hell toupee]

Anyone have any opinions on this working

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[_RustyLeaf321]

Merci pour ces éléments. Que pensez-vous d'un tensiomètre autour du coup à la place de l'attache à cliquet ?

I believe that anything can work as long as it stays in place and holds your weight once you tighten it.

 

[hell toupee]

Anyone have any opinions on this working

I have tested and will be using the night night method with one huge variation - no cervical collar or neck brace needed.

Instead of using corn bags or rolled up socks, I will be using 2 "air lift bags" that I bought on Amazon. I placed them on each side of my neck, then used a large rubber band to hold them in place.

Just like night night, I then put a ratchet strap over the air bags - I am using the ratchet strap to ensure the air bags, when inflated with a little squeeze bulb, press in to my carotid arteries rather than out. The pressure from the air bags is what hits the carotids, not the ratchet strap, so I won't have to suffer with tightening down a ratchet strap to where I'm choking - it only needs to be tight enough so the bag pressure goes in.

The air bags, which are used to life furniture and hang doors, are a little rounded when inflated and seem to work very well.

I may, however, cut a golf ball in two and use that right on the carotid, so the air bags push the half golf ball in.

It is difficult for me to test because in order to release the air from the air bags, it is necessary to twist a screw with your fingers, rather than a push button. However I have nerve damage in my fingers and need 2 hands to do it. So if I start to black out, I wouldn't be able to release the air in time (ie., for testing). What I have done is got everything set up, inflated the air bags, and then pressed them against my neck using my forearms so I could release right away. I almost instantly start to get dizzy, like within 5 seconds. I am reasonably confident that I would black out if the pressure was not released.

 

[endoftheroad45]

I have been practising with this method. But I dont have access to cornhole bags. I can get light headed with a self locking lashing strap. At first I was unable to do that but I've found the right spot. Ive seen people talking about using socks. But im not sure how that's utilised. Do I fold the socks to be similar in size to a cornhole bag?

 

[HD72]

I have been practising with this method. But I dont have access to cornhole bags. I can get light headed with a self locking lashing strap. At first I was unable to do that but I've found the right spot. Ive seen people talking about using socks. But im not sure how that's utilised. Do I fold the socks to be similar in size to a cornhole bag?

I have tested and will be using the night night method with one huge variation - no cervical collar or neck brace needed.

Instead of using corn bags or rolled up socks, I will be using 2 "air lift bags" that I bought on Amazon. I placed them on each side of my neck, then used a large rubber band to hold them in place.

Just like night night, I then put a ratchet strap over the air bags - I am using the ratchet strap to ensure the air bags, when inflated with a little squeeze bulb, press in to my carotid arteries rather than out. The pressure from the air bags is what hits the carotids, not the ratchet strap, so I won't have to suffer with tightening down a ratchet strap to where I'm choking - it only needs to be tight enough so the bag pressure goes in.

The air bags, which are used to life furniture and hang doors, are a little rounded when inflated and seem to work very well.

I may, however, cut a golf ball in two and use that right on the carotid, so the air bags push the half golf ball in.

It is difficult for me to test because in order to release the air from the air bags, it is necessary to twist a screw with your fingers, rather than a push button. However I have nerve damage in my fingers and need 2 hands to do it. So if I start to black out, I wouldn't be able to release the air in time (ie., for testing). What I have done is got everything set up, inflated the air bags, and then pressed them against my neck using my forearms so I could release right away. I almost instantly start to get dizzy, like within 5 seconds. I am reasonably confident that I would black out if the pressure was not released.

what are you going to do to keep yourself from ripping them off

 

[hell toupee]

what are you going to do to keep yourself from ripping them off

Why would I rip them off?

There is no pain, no panic, no sense of suffocation.

When I was testing, my vision started to fade within 10 seconds, which means had I not let the air out, I would've fallen unconscious and that would be that. It's actually kind of euphoric and now I understand why auto-erotic asphyxiation is a thing.

Do you want to PM me?

 

[iusedtobehappy]

I have tested and will be using the night night method with one huge variation - no cervical collar or neck brace needed.

Instead of using corn bags or rolled up socks, I will be using 2 "air lift bags" that I bought on Amazon. I placed them on each side of my neck, then used a large rubber band to hold them in place.

Just like night night, I then put a ratchet strap over the air bags - I am using the ratchet strap to ensure the air bags, when inflated with a little squeeze bulb, press in to my carotid arteries rather than out. The pressure from the air bags is what hits the carotids, not the ratchet strap, so I won't have to suffer with tightening down a ratchet strap to where I'm choking - it only needs to be tight enough so the bag pressure goes in.

The air bags, which are used to life furniture and hang doors, are a little rounded when inflated and seem to work very well.

I may, however, cut a golf ball in two and use that right on the carotid, so the air bags push the half golf ball in.

It is difficult for me to test because in order to release the air from the air bags, it is necessary to twist a screw with your fingers, rather than a push button. However I have nerve damage in my fingers and need 2 hands to do it. So if I start to black out, I wouldn't be able to release the air in time (ie., for testing). What I have done is got everything set up, inflated the air bags, and then pressed them against my neck using my forearms so I could release right away. I almost instantly start to get dizzy, like within 5 seconds. I am reasonably confident that I would black out if the pressure was not released.

Can you link to the items you're using? If comfortable, a video or picture? For those of us who can't visualize.

 

[HD72]

Why would I rip them off?

There is no pain, no panic, no sense of suffocation.

When I was testing, my vision started to fade within 10 seconds, which means had I not let the air out, I would've fallen unconscious and that would be that. It's actually kind of euphoric and now I understand why auto-erotic asphyxiation is a thing.

Do you want to PM me?

No it's ok I do know however even when u go unconscious your body can trigger SI and u will pull them off. Many people have spoken of waking up with all their stuff pulled off them. Just be careful you don't want to stay under enough to cause brain damage.

No it's ok I do know however even when u go unconscious your body can trigger SI and u will pull them off. Many people have spoken of waking up with all their stuff pulled off them. Just be careful you don't want to stay under enough to cause brain damage.

It has nothing to do with pain. Your body just fights dying.

 

[RoseGirl]

It has nothing to do with pain. Your body just fights dying.

w fast ko stuff if u wanna die you'll be dead and si won't stop you. Adrenaline does make it scary but like once ur ready... it won't matter anymore.

 

[hell toupee]

I have been practising with this method. But I dont have access to cornhole bags. I can get light headed with a self locking lashing strap. At first I was unable to do that but I've found the right spot. Ive seen people talking about using socks. But im not sure how that's utilised. Do I fold the socks to be similar in size to a cornhole bag?

No it's ok I do know however even when u go unconscious your body can trigger SI and u will pull them off. Many people have spoken of waking up with all their stuff pulled off them. Just be careful you don't want to stay under enough to cause brain damage.

It has nothing to do with pain. Your body just fights dying.

You are referring to people waking up from partial where some blood flow is restored to the brain and they become conscious again. This usually happens because of involuntary convulsions that shift the body. Remember, partial relies on an intricate balance of rope/knot placement, and body position. When involuntary movements start to happen, the slightest shift restores some or partial flow back to the brain, causing people to wake up in a panic, SI kicks in, and they desperately try to save themselves.

That is a completely different mechanism and why partial is so difficult to get right.

If you are referring to night night, SI only kicks in because people have such a difficult time blocking the carotids adequately, and instead are placing pressure on the jugulars and getting that exploding head feeling - this is what triggers SI and people ripping things off of them.

There is no such thing as SI when you are unconscious, so you are referring to instances where people are unconscious and then became conscious, in which SI became a factor. Or, they never went unconscious in the first place, and SI kicked in. It may *seem* like some anecdotal reports here were of people unconscious and saving themselves, but that's not the case. They were unconscious, became conscious and forgot about it, or were disoriented/confused.

This does not apply to my method, Once the carotids are occluded and you pass out, there is no waking up from that unless blood pressure is restored to the brain. You don't wake back up, therefore there is no "SI" to contend with.

It's ok, I was just trying to help, I didn't mean to turn this in to an argument.

Hope you find the peace you are after,

 

[swankysoup]

If you are referring to night night, SI only kicks in because people have such a difficult time blocking the carotids adequately, and instead are placing pressure on the jugulars and getting that exploding head feeling - this is what triggers SI and people ripping things off of them.

Any tips on how to find the carotid artery vs the jugular? I was also wondering if it matters what kind of a ratchet strap i have, i have seen a few different kind.

 

[hell toupee]

Any tips on how to find the carotid artery vs the jugular? I was also wondering if it matters what kind of a ratchet strap i have, i have seen a few different kind.

I don't think it matters. An endless ratchet strap is easiest because there aren't any hooks on the loose end of the strap, but you could just cut them off.

As to finding the carotids, I would look at a diagram on Google. Or look up "palpating the carotid arteries". You can also look up the pass out game and where people place the heel of their palm (with the fingers behind the neck).

The carotids extend up and branch off to the interior and exterior carotid arteries. It looks like a little bulb in the diagram. That is the sweet spot. You should notice a significant difference in the strength of your pulse in this spot.

While everyone's anatomy is slightly different, it's more or less the same. The carotid should be just on the underside of your adam's apple. In other words, it's just to either side of the adam's apple, and as you push in, it's kind of towards the inner part of the adam's apple if that makes sense. It will be just under your jaw line, at the top of your neck. Maybe a quarter inch down or so. Talking about the sweet spot here.

Night night is tricky to pull off. Instead of corn hole bags or a knotted sock on the carotids, I am using air shim bags that inflate so I don't have to rely on the ratchet to put a lot of pressure on the windpipe - they just hold in the air bags.

 

[GoingHome11:11]

I have tested and will be using the night night method with one huge variation - no cervical collar or neck brace needed.

Instead of using corn bags or rolled up socks, I will be using 2 "air lift bags" that I bought on Amazon. I placed them on each side of my neck, then used a large rubber band to hold them in place.

Just like night night, I then put a ratchet strap over the air bags - I am using the ratchet strap to ensure the air bags, when inflated with a little squeeze bulb, press in to my carotid arteries rather than out. The pressure from the air bags is what hits the carotids, not the ratchet strap, so I won't have to suffer with tightening down a ratchet strap to where I'm choking - it only needs to be tight enough so the bag pressure goes in.

The air bags, which are used to life furniture and hang doors, are a little rounded when inflated and seem to work very well.

I may, however, cut a golf ball in two and use that right on the carotid, so the air bags push the half golf ball in.

It is difficult for me to test because in order to release the air from the air bags, it is necessary to twist a screw with your fingers, rather than a push button. However I have nerve damage in my fingers and need 2 hands to do it. So if I start to black out, I wouldn't be able to release the air in time (ie., for testing). What I have done is got everything set up, inflated the air bags, and then pressed them against my neck using my forearms so I could release right away. I almost instantly start to get dizzy, like within 5 seconds. I am reasonably confident that I would black out if the pressure was not released.

Can anyone recommend which ratchet strap to get on Amazon? I don't know anything about these straps and there are so many options. I feel overwhelmed trying to pick one.

 

[HD72]

Can anyone recommend which ratchet strap to get on Amazon? I don't know anything about these straps and there are so many options. I feel overwhelmed trying to pick one.

Oh yes please and can u send a link for these inflatable bags. I don't know what they are. I'm sorry I get confused easily due to brain injury.

 

[hell toupee]

Can anyone recommend which ratchet strap to get on Amazon? I don't know anything about these straps and there are so many options. I feel overwhelmed trying to pick one.

Oh yes please and can u send a link for these inflatable bags. I don't know what they are. I'm sorry I get confused easily due to brain injury.

I bought mine on Amazon.

I searched for "endless ratchet strap" and "air shim" or "air wedge"

 

[HD72]

I bought mine on Amazon.

I searched for "endless ratchet strap" and "air shim" or "air wedge"

I bought mine on Amazon.

I searched for "endless ratchet strap" and "air shim" or "air wedge"

My carotid artery is so deep I can never find it.

 

[hell toupee]

My carotid artery is so deep I can never find it.

You can find it, you just aren't hitting the right spot.

The carotid sinus is the spot you want. This is what prompts unconsciousness - pressure on this spot. Look at some diagrams on Google. It should be right to either side of your Adam's apple and right under where your jaw hinges for chewing, or a little in from that. There are many diagrams and pictures you can look at. Look up "carotid massage".

I've seen all manner of people pass out from blood chokes in mma - didn't matter if they were fat, skinny, had a huge neck or a small one.

In one of the posted studies in the hanging mega thread, the scientists state that it is easier to find if you are dehydrated

 

[HD72]

You can find it, you just aren't hitting the right spot.

The carotid sinus is the spot you want. This is what prompts unconsciousness - pressure on this spot. Look at some diagrams on Google. It should be right to either side of your Adam's apple and right under where your jaw hinges for chewing, or a little in from that. There are many diagrams and pictures you can look at. Look up "carotid massage".

I've seen all manner of people pass out from blood chokes in mma - didn't matter if they were fat, skinny, had a huge neck or a small one.

In one of the posted studies in the hanging mega thread, the scientists state that it is easier to find if you are dehydrated

My muscles spasm from dystonia then I can't feel it's like my neck is rock hard. Thank u anyway I think it's hopeless.