Resource SN 101: Understanding Sodium Nitrite, Its Effects, And Answering Common Questions

[Gabriel1987]

Thank you for your concern. I'm scared because of this whole thing with Kenneth Law. The police went to several people's homes to make sure they were okay, and they confiscated several 50g bags of sodium nitrite. I don't want to be committed again. My last suicide attempt landed me in intensive care for four days and then in a psychiatric hospital. But you've reassured me about the legal side of things, thank you.

 

[quietbird]

Hi, thank you so much. I have a couple questions. I was curious what this meant... "Opioids increase the risk of vomiting, but can be treated with Antihistamines." Taking antihistamines with an opioid reduces chances of vomitting? Isn't that what meto is already doing? I may be confused.

Also, do you think it is worth opiods for pain when they already cause nausea/throwing up? I haven't thought enough about how much pain may be involved... and in theory I don't want to do anything to trigger throwing up.. but I've read some people say that we should all expect to throw up some, and that it can still cause death... do you think that's true? I will have 2 cups and am hoping to stay awake enough to be able to take both if needed... but I know I could pass out. My worst case scenario would be waking up again.

 

[Chemi]

Hi, thank you so much. I have a couple questions. I was curious what this meant... "Opioids increase the risk of vomiting, but can be treated with Antihistamines." Taking antihistamines with an opioid reduces chances of vomitting? Isn't that what meto is already doing? I may be confused.

Also, do you think it is worth opiods for pain when they already cause nausea/throwing up? I haven't thought enough about how much pain may be involved... and in theory I don't want to do anything to trigger throwing up.. but I've read some people say that we should all expect to throw up some, and that it can still cause death... do you think that's true? I will have 2 cups and am hoping to stay awake enough to be able to take both if needed... but I know I could pass out. My worst case scenario would be waking up again.

Opioids make people nauseous by confusing the brain's "vomit center" and slowing down the stomach.
Antihistamines help mainly by calming the inner-ear balance system, which opioids often overstimulate, and their sedating effect also reduces the feeling of nausea.
They don't do much to fix the stomach slowing or the direct brain trigger opioids activate.

Metoclopramide, on the other hand, works directly on the brain area opioids overstimulate, blocking the signal that causes nausea.
Because of this, metoclopramide is usually stronger against opioid nausea.
Antihistamines still help, but in a more indirect, gentler way.

While Antihistamines aren't necessary if you already take meto, I still included them for people who got opioids but no meto, and just as a general, easy OTC fix for opioid nausea that many don't know about.

 

[what]

chemi, im trying to figure out what causes the exploding head/suffocation feeling, do you know anything about that? im pretty much fine with any other pain/discomfort that comes with SN except for literally drowning on air, this is exactly the only reason why i dont do hanging anymore and if that happens to me on SN it'd be a bummer

 

[Chemi]

chemi, im trying to figure out what causes the exploding head/suffocation feeling, do you know anything about that? im pretty much fine with any other pain/discomfort that comes with SN except for literally drowning on air, this is exactly the only reason why i dont do hanging anymore and if that happens to me on SN it'd be a bummer

It is the tachycardia that causes the exploding head feeling. Beta blockers should help. Beta blockers work by blocking adrenaline, slowing the heart rate, and reducing its force, which then reduces the feeling of your head exploding. They are a bit harder to get if you don't already have heart problems, and you can't really fake them that easily.

The air part, well. Benzos make it more bearable. You could try Bronchodilators, but I am really not sure if those are gonna work since your lungs work. It's your blood that doesn't work.

Usually people unconscious when the proper suffocation happens and the shortness of breath starting after around 10 minutes is usually manageable since you will already be mentally kind of out of it at that point.

 

[what]

It is the tachycardia that causes the exploding head feeling. Beta blockers should help. Beta blockers work by blocking adrenaline, slowing the heart rate, and reducing its force, which then reduces the feeling of your head exploding. They are a bit harder to get if you don't already have heart problems, and you can't really fake them that easily.

The air part, well. Benzos make it more bearable. You could try Bronchodilators, but I am really not sure if those are gonna work since your lungs work. It's your blood that doesn't work.

Usually people unconscious when the proper suffocation happens and the shortness of breath starting after around 10 minutes is usually manageable since you will already be mentally kind of out of it at that point.

yep i have the propranolol i have everything really except the benzos bur i'll be replacing them with phenibut

 

[swankysoup]

I thought it was more peaceful than this, it looks not so pleasant! I think inert gas if the setup can be properly done, would be preferable. Or even CO.

Yeah some of those symptoms bother me like muscle cramps and choking pain

 

[Unlucky777]

Bless you for this thread. I'm trying to obtain and I'm very new to all this. This is a good starting point