Venting psychiatrist blamed me for failing an attempt??

[brokenhands]

I had a session today and. that was so insane I have tocpost my thoughts here, because I just can't process this in my own head.

sure, I'm used to being dismissed by mental health professionals. sure, if they make an insensitive comment - I wouldn't say anything. but this was just batshit crazy honestly EVEN FOR ME???

I tell her about my attempt as a way to tell how bad the depressive episodes got (I have bipolar II), and she just. looks me straight in the eyes and goes:
"and here you are. do you even bring something to the world?"
?????the what?? the??????? huh???? is that ok to say...??????
I just froze for a couple of seconds because man I don't even know what I bring to the world, and then she contined on on how egotistical I am, how I don't care about my friends or anyone and just... what? the fuck?

like sure you could tell me that my problems aren't that big and I wouldn't bat an eye. been there too many times. but whatever just happened blew my brains straight out I swear. what the fuck do you mean I tell you how much I want to kill myself in this second and instead of just prescriing me some meds and sending me off I got a whole roast session when I needed it the least.
because of these questions ans accusations I kept getting more and more negative in my speach, and eventually she just went "I'm a psychiatrist, not a therapist or a life coach" YOU STARTED THIS???? if you don't want to hear about my problems you could have just written down my attempt somewhere, prescribe me my meds and off I go.

sorry this was emotional and weird I'm just shocked honestly, did anyone else have an experience like that with a psychiatrist?

 

[Fadenself00_]

Hi! Faden here ,

get a new one.

Faden out

 

[Jabr0ni]

Having to get used to dismissive therapists and psychiatrists is just wrong, outrageous on it's own, but this person has no place to offer mental health "services" to anyone, god damn.
It really requires extra level of cruelty and a complete lack of empathy to treat you like this, while being at this point of vulnerability.

No need to be sorry and it is good you are emotional, you should be!

 

[Cauliflour]

What's the difference between a psychiatrist, a therapist and a life coach?

 

[spacefreightergirl]

that's actually insane and it caught me off guard but tbh i'm not surprised it came from a psychiatrist from what i've heard of people i know and from my experience they're the most likely to say out of pocket things out of any mental healthcare worker. my boyfriend has ADHD and when he was trying to get diagnosed he had to go through multiple psychiatrists because they would say things like "have you tried quitting sugar?" and "it sounds like you just need to grow up". one of them even prescribed him anxiety medication even though he's the least anxious person i've met in my life, because "he just needed to calm down".

personally i quit going to psychiatrists altogether and have been rawdogging mental illnesses because every experience just got worse and worse. when i told the last one i met that i had self esteem issues and probably body dysmorphia she said "usually girls with low self esteem try to look pretty and you don't look like you take care of yourself, or care to" – to be clear, she knew i was there because i was going through one of the worst depressive episodes of my life and i had already told her that i'd spend days without eating because i couldn't even get up to make food for myself. so... yeah. i could go on because i have dozens of memories of things she's said and all of them were pretty bad. i remember always leaving feeling like i wasted my time and really insulted lol. we really deserve than what the healthcare industry currently has going on tbh

 

[brokenhands]

that's actually insane and it caught me off guard but tbh i'm not surprised it came from a psychiatrist from what i've heard of people i know and from my experience they're the most likely to say out of pocket things out of any mental healthcare worker. my boyfriend has ADHD and when he was trying to get diagnosed he had to go through multiple psychiatrists because they would say things like "have you tried quitting sugar?" and "it sounds like you just need to grow up". one of them even prescribed him anxiety medication even though he's the least anxious person i've met in my life, because "he just needed to calm down".

personally i quit going to psychiatrists altogether and have been rawdogging mental illnesses because every experience just got worse and worse. when i told the last one i met that i had self esteem issues and probably body dysmorphia she said "usually girls with low self esteem try to look pretty and you don't look like you take care of yourself, or care to" – to be clear, she knew i was there because i was going through one of the worst depressive episodes of my life and i had already told her that i'd spend days without eating because i couldn't even get up to make food for myself. so... yeah. i could go on because i have dozens of memories of things she's said and all of them were pretty bad. i remember always leaving feeling like i wasted my time and really insulted lol. we really deserve than what the healthcare industry currently has going on tbh

are the psychiatrists...ok?
god makes me wonder what on earth they have going on in their brains to make them think it's okay to say that to someone already struggling. I'm so sorry for both your and your boyfriend's experiences, that's just crazy.
I've heard so many psychiatrist horror stories from people with eating disorders and body dysmorphia it's sickening. you shouldn't have to put up with this level of bullshit additionally dropped on you.
quitting psychiatry is very understandable to be honest after all of that.

What's the difference between a psychiatrist, a therapist and a life coach?

a psychiatrist is "the meds guy", their job is to prescribe you medicine to help with symptoms that make it hard to live your daily life. they won't solve your issues or anything, it's mainly about symptom management to get you into a state where you can at least function/get out of bed ect.
a therapist works with your problems, helps you work through trauma, develop healthy coping mechanisms. their job is to listen to your problems and help you work through it.
a life coach is typically for mentally healthy people and they help you achieve goals or life management, kind of like a sports coach, but make it about life.

Having to get used to dismissive therapists and psychiatrists is just wrong, outrageous on it's own, but this person has no place to offer mental health "services" to anyone, god damn.
It really requires extra level of cruelty and a complete lack of empathy to treat you like this, while being at this point of vulnerability.

No need to be sorry and it is good you are emotional, you should be!

thank you, and while it's true that bo one should get accustomed to being dismissed, unfortunately there are many mental health professionals are like that all around the world. truly sad.
but yes - cruelty, that's what I'm saying. everyone can be ignorant sometimes, we are all human, but I honestly felt like I personally ruined her whole life and killed her pet fish for her to treat me like that, when in reality I didn't even really do anything but tell her about the attempt.
thank you for your reply, genuinely

 

[brokenhands]

update: I hate this situation so much. I am way too anxious and insecure to go and tell that I want to switch doctors, but at the same time I just can't with her. I had a terrible reaction to a medication and she once again responded like she could care less and I am taking up her time. I feel terrible. I should start buikding up the courage to leave her

 

[Hollowman]

They're all worthless arrogant pieces of shit, run.

 

[lpdsvm]

A psychiatrist could test you to see if you react violently or somewhat aggressively. But that should not happen during private appointments. They do it when they take you in for a few months.
But I still think it's too much but it saves them a bunch of time to evaluate you.
And they must at least say sorry after that. If they didn't they should be at least investigated.

 

[VanillaCake]

update: I hate this situation so much. I am way too anxious and insecure to go and tell that I want to switch doctors, but at the same time I just can't with her. I had a terrible reaction to a medication and she once again responded like she could care less and I am taking up her time. I feel terrible. I should start buikding up the courage to leave her

You deserve so much better than this. Switch psychiatrist and don't look back, I can't even fathom what her thought process was there... Like what did she believe it'd do? Magically cure you from bipolar depression by... making you feel like you're the worst piece of shit on Earth?

A psychiatrist could test you to see if you react violently or somewhat aggressively. But that should not happen during private appointments. They do it when they take you in for a few months.
But I still think it's too much but it saves them a bunch of time to evaluate you.
And they must at least say sorry after that. If they didn't they should be at least investigated.

Doing such a thing right after being told about a suicide attempt seems not only counter-productive but also super dangerous to me... She should probably be investigated yeah, there might be other patients who complained from her "methods" in the past

 

[stepanch1k]

Yeah after reading this, I ain't planning on getting professional help any time soon. But still that interaction sound insane too me

 

[Yakui]

she should be immediately fired for that. any "mental health professional" should not treat someone who has attempted with such cruelty.

 

[brokenhands]

A psychiatrist could test you to see if you react violently or somewhat aggressively. But that should not happen during private appointments. They do it when they take you in for a few months.
But I still think it's too much but it saves them a bunch of time to evaluate you.
And they must at least say sorry after that. If they didn't they should be at least investigated.

kind of makes sense thinking about it that way, I think that she was more of testing me for how much... will to live I got? since I've never come in for aggressiveness or violence and she was specifically pushing me on my suicidal thoughts.
but yea that may have been the motivator since we don't have a lot of time on our appointments, but that was just way too much and overboard. she didn't apologize, didn't at least give me a formal "I'm sorry to hear that" or anything.
maybe I'll update the thread once I gather my courage to go and switch doctors, thank you so much for this comment. genuinely didn't know that this type of evaluation was a thing.

Yeah after reading this, I ain't planning on getting professional help any time soon. But still that interaction sound insane too me

just an advice if you even decide to do seek that - stick to private practices if you have the money. they are better on basically every level, you get more in depth consultations, more time, personalization ans just... doctors are rarely dicks in private practices as much as I know. private practice doctors (in general) cost a lot, but damn they actually treat you nice

You deserve so much better than this. Switch psychiatrist and don't look back, I can't even fathom what her thought process was there... Like what did she believe it'd do? Magically cure you from bipolar depression by... making you feel like you're the worst piece of shit on Earth?


Doing such a thing right after being told about a suicide attempt seems not only counter-productive but also super dangerous to me... She should probably be investigated yeah, there might be other patients who complained from her "methods" in the past

OH MY GOD. I ACTUALLY SEARCHED IT UP AND I FOUND NEGATIVE REVIEWS ABOUT HER THAT MATCH MY COMPLAINTS. this is insane thank you so much for giving me the idea in the last sentence. oh god I never knew I'd find any online??
I READ IT AND SHE IS ENCOURAGING PATIENTS TO TAKE OZEMPIC IF THEY HAVE EXTRA WEIGHT WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THAT DOCTOR???? jaw is on the floor

 

[volo]

Which country ru in? In the us, she'd maybe send to to a hospital…
Yeah, is there a place to report her to???

 

[brokenhands]

Which country ru in? In the us, she'd maybe send to to a hospital…
Yeah, is there a place to report her to???

I'll just say eastern EU, don't feel too comfortable sharing the specifics. there is a website in our country specifically for leaving negative reviews and experiences, and I can write something in there, found other reports about her too on there

update2: since I found out about the ozempic situation and other reports - I have finally gauged how deeply insane this is. I will absolutely be taking my documents from there asap. this is beyond crazy genuinely how is she still working...?? she IS a well respected doctor, but come on. encouraging mentally ill people to go on ozempic. definitely will end up well.

 

[volo]

I'll just say eastern EU, don't feel too comfortable sharing the specifics. there is a website in our country specifically for leaving negative reviews and experiences, and I can write something in there, found other reports about her too on there

That's not too bad all in all, you didn't end up at a psych ward…

I read reviews before visiting a dr Once (ear nose throat), they said he told them: ' if you were my little sister, I could tell you to do xx'. Sure enough, he told me the same…

Just go to another, more compassionate dr. Maybe you can find someone reading those same reviews…

 

[brokenhands]

update3: I am finally getting a new psychiatrist, thanks to everyone that replied to this thread with kindness and listened

 

[VanillaCake]

update3: I am finally getting a new psychiatrist, thanks to everyone that replied to this thread with kindness and listened

That's such great news! I hope it'll go better with this new psychiatrist (and now you know what to do if it doesn't). You deserve to be treated with dignity and respect

 

[eggsausagerice]

I tell her about my attempt as a way to tell how bad the depressive episodes got (I have bipolar II), and she just. looks me straight in the eyes and goes:
"and here you are. do you even bring something to the world?"
?????the what?? the??????? huh???? is that ok to say...??????

personally i quit going to psychiatrists altogether and have been rawdogging mental illnesses because every experience just got worse and worse. when i told the last one i met that i had self esteem issues and probably body dysmorphia she said "usually girls with low self esteem try to look pretty and you don't look like you take care of yourself, or care to" – to be clear, she knew i was there because i was going through one of the worst depressive episodes of my life and i had already told her that i'd spend days without eating because i couldn't even get up to make food for myself. so... yeah. i could go on because i have dozens of memories of things she's said and all of them were pretty bad. i remember always leaving feeling like i wasted my time and really insulted lol. we really deserve than what the healthcare industry currently has going on tbh

this is now my favorite thread on the forum because i HATTTETETETE psychiatrists and i HATE therapists and they would tell me i'm being difficult or just prescribe me medication without knowing what to do with me or putting in the effort to diagnose me. it felt like they were just prescribing me stuff. and i'm just afraid of wasting time and money on a therapist when it seems like so much effort for so little gain. since i don't have a job my parents would have to pay for it and it just seems like a waste of money if i'll die anyway. it's a shame that doctors in private practices cost more but they actually respect you.