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EmptyBottle

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Exactly. As everyone else, I also appreciate the level of detail and interesting insights regarding what goes on in the United States when someone CTBs.

This being said, the summary would be:

- It will be dramatic and shocking
- Some people will be devastated
- There will be a lot of bureaucracy involved

None of this matters after you're gone. Nothing does, and that's the beauty of being gone. It's not like we're supposed to go "uh, that's such a mess! I better stick to living and being a slave of the fucking demiurge until he squeezes the very last drop of energy out of me and then I die anyway!"

I know this was not the intention of the OP (the post was awesome) but I can't help just meeting it with a cold "so what?" life being imposed into us is the first unfair thing to begin with... Being able to make the decision to go is actually the only act that contains a small bit of what could be interpreted as fairness to a being that was forced to live. The mess, suffering and bureaucracy are merely details compared to the burden of existence.
While (sometimes) none of it matters to the person who's gone, learning what happens when devices being seized is useful for those who want to protect their darkest secrets and help protect SaSu... a simple wiping of all devices can make it more challenging for stuff to be extracted and force LE to use cloud data (which maybe can be deleted 30 days before CTB? at least some of the data?).

Imagine if u get subpoenad because of something u said to someone here... because they didn't do a proper wiping of their devices... wouldn't be fun. That's why I'm going to be doing a dd wipe (and factory reset) of my devices if possible.

Now imagine if this site becomes delisted from Google. Google has already implemented age restrictions in Australia... the less people wipe their devices prior to CTB, the more likely this might happen (though yes, 50+ ppl have CTB'd and not much happened, but I don't like pushing our luck)
 
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While (sometimes) none of it matters to the person who's gone, learning what happens when devices being seized is useful for those who want to protect their darkest secrets and help protect SaSu... a simple wiping of all devices can make it more challenging for stuff to be extracted and force LE to use cloud data (which maybe can be deleted 30 days before CTB? at least some of the data?).

Imagine if u get subpoenad because of something u said to someone here... because they didn't do a proper wiping of their devices... wouldn't be fun. That's why I'm going to be doing a dd wipe (and factory reset) of my devices if possible.

Now imagine if this site becomes delisted from Google. Google has already implemented age restrictions in Australia... the less people wipe their devices prior to CTB, the more likely this might happen (though yes, 50+ ppl have CTB'd and not much happened, but I don't like pushing our luck)
That's a very interesting point from the standpoint of a prevention measurement that can be taken to protect members here of potential legal actions against them or censorship of the forum, which is very understandable and I agree with it, however, I don't think it should by no means constitute an argument to deter anybody from leaving if they wish, which I'm sure you also agree with 👍🏻
 
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That's a very interesting point from the standpoint of a prevention measurement that can be taken to protect members here of potential legal actions against them or censorship of the forum, which is very understandable and I agree with it, however, I don't think it should by no means constitute an argument to deter anybody from leaving if they wish, which I'm sure you also agree with 👍🏻
mmm... and it wasn't intended as an argument to actively deter CTB... just point out what LE will likely do. There is also no mention about what happens with a deep sea CTB, eg if the boat is auto sunk after CTB completes... but I'm guessing sonar may (or may not) be able to locate the boat, depending on so many factors (like whether the Coast Guard was able to see the boat far out).
 

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