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sinclairpeace

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Jan 12, 2024
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Why is it that some people without planning hang themselves and actually are successful? I envy that they get it in one go and wonder how I might achieve that as well. Seem many just do it and get lucky and I've always wondered how they are able to be successful with no knowledge on the topic
 
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Yaka

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Jan 23, 2024
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This is very strange that in the most random situations people are hung and pass but when some people try they very much fail and it seems some many times
 
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Praestat_Mori

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May 21, 2023
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When someone isn't aware of the consequences they don't care about them. If you think the "feeling of passing out" is like a drug experience without he danger of dying then your SI is much less of a problem.

But the reality is: Once you passed out you feel nothing - like under anesthesia. We think people who hanged themselves and show convulsions feel pain - most likely they don't bc they are deeply unconscious already.

If you're desperate enough you do almost any method - once the pain of death becomes less than the pain of life (going on living) it becomes easier to defeat SI and to go through with a method.
 
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When someone isn't aware of the consequences they don't care about them. If you think the "feeling of passing out" is like a drug experience without he danger of dying then your SI is much less of a problem.

But the reality is: Once you passed out you feel nothing - like under anesthesia. We think people who hanged themselves and show convulsions feel pain - most likely they don't bc they are deeply unconscious already.

If you're desperate enough you do almost any method - once the pain of death becomes less than the pain of life (going on living) it becomes easier to defeat SI and to go through with a method.
"once the pain of death becomes less than the pain of life" is a piss poor philosophy, and a terrible thing to say.

That's not the reality. It will not become easier to "defeat SI" if you let your life become worse or actively make it worse through self sabotage or reckless behaviour.

Take it from someone aged 30 who was STUPID enough to believe this in my younger days.
 
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CantDoIt

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Do we know they weren't planning it? I do hear stories of people just finding someone like that or however but how do we know that they weren't thinking about it for some time beforehand?
 
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Praestat_Mori

Mori praestat, quam haec pati!
May 21, 2023
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"once the pain of death becomes less than the pain of life" is a piss poor philosophy, and a terrible thing to say.

That's not the reality. It will not become easier to "defeat SI" if you let your life become worse or actively make it worse through self sabotage or reckless behaviour.

Take it from someone aged 30 who was STUPID enough to believe this in my younger days.
if you let your life become worse or actively make it worse through self sabotage or reckless behaviour.
Indeed! But honestly, if I had to make my life actively worse to be able to find a reason to kms I would reconsider my decision very intensely.

More suffering and pain are inevitable in such a case and SI might really get stronger, if there's the chance to improve it by just stopping the self-sabotage.

Don't get me wrong, I don't wanna invalidate your suffering.

Believe me, things in life can go wrong, can go against you and make you actively suicidal from deep inside your mind without having to self-sabotage bc you simply do not have an influence on why your life is falling apart.

That is what I refer to with my "piss poor philosophy".
 
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