Venting "you have so much left to live for"

[DaisiesRegrets]

As time goes by, this saying has brought more and more pain and hatred into my heart. I believe this might be one of the most tone deaf things you could say to someone who's contemplating ctb. I'm glad that the life that you've lived has given you the confidence to believe that the future is bright, but it's done nothing but the opposite for me. My whole life, I've only ever heard of people talking about how they "miss the old days" or "miss when they were kids". Almost like it's more likely that life just gets worse from here. But what do you do when you can't miss the past, because the past was just as shitty as it is right now. I guess all you can do is look to the future, but all the future brings me is hesitation and dread. The idea that I have a whole future ahead of me scares me more than anything. I've only been around for 23 years, but those years have been almost nothing but a slowly burning mediocrity at best, and an excruciating searing pain at worst. Why would things get better? Is something gonna come down and save me and show me that life is worth living? Yeah right. If anything, something will come down and finally push me to the edge. And at this point, I just want that to happen already. I'm just too tired at this point.

 

[EmptyBottle]

Mm, the saying of "having much to live for" is indeed annoying. (I'm 21 btw, have the random death wish sometimes, but it remains at the wish stage only, and fades)

"I hope conditions improve" is a saying I sometimes use, since "hope things gets better" somehow feels worse to say, improvement could be anything from large to slight, while better seems to only allow for big steps.

Tho, sometimes, emoticons may be preferred, in that case:

^u^ ^w^ ^u^

 

[walking_dead]

As time goes by, this saying has brought more and more pain and hatred into my heart. I believe this might be one of the most tone deaf things you could say to someone who's contemplating ctb. I'm glad that the life that you've lived has given you the confidence to believe that the future is bright, but it's done nothing but the opposite for me. My whole life, I've only ever heard of people talking about how they "miss the old days" or "miss when they were kids". Almost like it's more likely that life just gets worse from here. But what do you do when you can't miss the past, because the past was just as shitty as it is right now. I guess all you can do is look to the future, but all the future brings me is hesitation and dread. The idea that I have a whole future ahead of me scares me more than anything. I've only been around for 23 years, but those years have been almost nothing but a slowly burning mediocrity at best, and an excruciating searing pain at worst. Why would things get better? Is something gonna come down and save me and show me that life is worth living? Yeah right. If anything, something will come down and finally push me to the edge. And at this point, I just want that to happen already. I'm just too tired at this point.


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I think I'll re-read oyasumi punpun before I head out.

 

[Esc9434]

Speaking as someone older, your youth is an asset.

Traditionally, you have plenty of time to correct the ship.

However, the meaning behind the thread title is very outdated.

I would say today's world is too unforgiving to those who cannot find a path much earlier.

Even life is hard in the mighty US with the rise of AI, the outsourcing of white-collared/manufacturing jobs, private investment firms buying up residential properties, reduction of social safety nets under the current administration, and etc.

Before anyone bites my head off, I can understand if someone wants to ctb at a young age if all they ever known is trauma or experienced a trauma too great to recover from.

 

[FuneralCry]

I really understand feeling so tired of it all and I also have so much dread for what lies ahead in this cruel, futile existence and I'd just always prefer to not exist than suffer no matter what, I find it so unbearable how a human can suffer for so long in this existence, I find it so insensitive when people say things like that.

 

[theboy]

Forever young

 

[Linda]

As time goes by, this saying has brought more and more pain and hatred into my heart. I believe this might be one of the most tone deaf things you could say to someone who's contemplating ctb. I'm glad that the life that you've lived has given you the confidence to believe that the future is bright, but it's done nothing but the opposite for me. My whole life, I've only ever heard of people talking about how they "miss the old days" or "miss when they were kids". Almost like it's more likely that life just gets worse from here. But what do you do when you can't miss the past, because the past was just as shitty as it is right now. I guess all you can do is look to the future, but all the future brings me is hesitation and dread. The idea that I have a whole future ahead of me scares me more than anything. I've only been around for 23 years, but those years have been almost nothing but a slowly burning mediocrity at best, and an excruciating searing pain at worst. Why would things get better? Is something gonna come down and save me and show me that life is worth living? Yeah right. If anything, something will come down and finally push me to the edge. And at this point, I just want that to happen already. I'm just too tired at this point.


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Things might get better. Or they might not. Neither you nor anybody else knows which would happen if you continue to live.

Don't assume that there is no chance of things getting better. But I agree with you that it does not help when stupid people throw stupid platitudes at you.

 

[real human being]

I feel the same way. All I keep thinking is "what's the point?". I think my life so far has been and is likely to continue to be completely pointless and empty. There's very little that I'm good at and very little that brings me joy. I just do my best to survive through the pain of my everyday life, but what's the fucking point?

 

[EmptyBottle]

I really understand feeling so tired of it all and I also have so much dread for what lies ahead in this cruel, futile existence and I'd just always prefer to not exist than suffer no matter what, I find it so unbearable how a human can suffer for so long in this existence, I find it so insensitive when people say things like that.

Hope you find relief from the suffering and dread @FuneralCry ^u^ and one day get to relax in the peace you seek.

 

[NonEssential]

more like "You have so much more suffering to experience," haha.

 

[Wolf Girl]

I'm in my early 30s. It has only gotten worse.

 

[snooperdooper]

Yes, honestly. The view, for me at least, is that I would rather get worse than get better. I have nothing to live for, no motivations, and the things required for me to live a happy life are impossible for me to acquire. To get better, in a sense, would be to lie to myself every single day. That, to me, is a much worse pain than struggling with an ever-worsening depression. At least with that, I know it'll end sooner rather than later.

 

[Dejected 55]

People try to talk you out of worrying about the future by saying "it's the future, anything could happen how do you know it will be bad?" and then trying to convince you "it will get better" as if they somehow can predict the future now?

In my case, it isn't about predicting... I truly don't have any idea of whether it will get better or worse... but I'm 55, and people have fed me the "it gets better" like for probably 40 years now. It has only gotten worse. And, if there is any anecdotal evidence of anything... historically, it has always gotten worse over time... so why wouldn't I believe this will continue? Why would it get worse for 40 consecutive years and then next year suddenly be awesome? That makes the least sense of anything.

So, I tune people out and disconnect when they try feeding me that bullshit.

 

[starlightstarbright]

I want to know what exactly I have left to live for. I've got no friends, my family hates me and I hate them back, I can't get a job (let alone in the field I'm passionate about that would give me a sense of purpose), I don't have the energy to do the volunteering I used to do, my hobbies aren't fun anymore - live for what, exactly?

 

[archiveofpain]

That quote is exactly why I get so much suicidal ideation because no one will ever admit that sometimes things don't get better, it's unfair to expect people to put themselves through suffering because of the chance that things might get better despite it not being guaranteed, what about now and what about the suffering that you are in the moment, you can't expect someone to live for the future when everything around you and your brain is making it impossible for you to survive

 

[Ligottian]

The best part of my youth was not knowing my future.