Discussion Why even attempt suicide when the risk of surviving and becoming disabled is so high?

[Hadnafoflife]

1/6 assuming each had only 1 attempt so it's somewhat higher

 

[tonicer]

Yeah that's part of the reason why i haven't attempted it, so far. The only way to die i can access is decapitation by train but given my bad luck i survive it somehow and become trapped in a broken body. I guess the best option is to continue fighting the urge.

 

[finaldestination22]

Too many are impulsive attempts and whit methods mostly seen in movies or heard about in the media. Like painkillers, sleeping pills , self harm and many more. And I think a suicide attempt is any self harm attempt that you did it while trying to kill yourself even though the method be very likely to not kill you but because you had the intention it's a suicide attempt.

Even this forum where there are thousands of resources to learn everything in detail still has plenty of people ending in the hospital for trying whit much less SN then recommended or ignoring different details for other methods too. It's hard to be cold blooded when you're actually going for it.

 

[_AllCatsAreGrey_]

Too many are impulsive attempts and whit methods mostly seen in movies or heard about in the media. Like painkillers, sleeping pills , self harm and many more. And I think a suicide attempt is any self harm attempt that you did it while trying to kill yourself even though the method be very likely to not kill you but because you had the intention it's a suicide attempt.

Even this forum where there are thousands of resources to learn everything in detail still has plenty of people ending in the hospital for trying whit much less SN then recommended or ignoring different details for other methods too. It's hard to be cold blooded when you're actually going for it.

I agree. Most people don't have access to clear information, so try methods that aren't clearly thought out.

My early attempts were with OTC sleeping pills. I had no idea that it wouldn't work. Now that I have clear information it stops me from trying without a solid plan. I feel what this site offers is harm reduction. We're always discouraging attempts that have unsound methods.

 

[badatparties]

The reason it's that high is because most people make impulsive attempts with unsound methods. A big part of the reason for this website is harm reduction, but people that criticize this website won't tell you that. They rather have people turn into a vegetable than make a solid attempt.

 

[macaroni2445]

The reason it's that high is because most people make impulsive attempts with unsound methods. A big part of the reason for this website is harm reduction, but people that criticize this website won't tell you that. They rather have people turn into a vegetable than make a solid attempt.

totally agree, i never understood why being alive is such a great deal, especially if you turn into a vegetable.

 

[PI3.14]

Such data cannot be used to build any informative opinion tbh.

Like, what percentage of those who ended up with disability did enough research? What percentage of them used not recommend methods? What percentage of them for interrupted mid attempt?

I Have multiple reasons for why I'm still here, ending up worse off, is probably at the very bottom of the list

 

[coldworld]

a lot of attempts are impulsive

 

[mourningd0ve]

This is part of why I haven't actually attempted again (first time was when I was 14, and I didn't know what I was doing so nothing happened like I thought it would).
I hate being alive and I'm constantly afraid that one day I'll be 50 and realize nothing ever got better and I spent decades crying out for something to get better, but what scares me even more than that is following through with an attempt only for it to severely disfigure or disable me. I would feel even more "trapped" in that state.

 

[alexit]

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1/6 assuming each had only 1 attempt so it's somewhat higher

I have tried killing myself literally countless times. Crashed motorcycle on purpose, ODing on anything I can get my hands on, hanging myself, the list goes on. Obviously the result is not success but a neck that pops when I turn, a crushed foot, frozen shoulder, countless self harm injuries that cause nothing but annoyances. I laugh in the movies when someone dies by downing a bottle of something. What I want to know is where is everyone featured in the news getting fentanyl???! Seriously.

 

[Zaphkiel]

This is part of why I haven't actually attempted again (first time was when I was 14, and I didn't know what I was doing so nothing happened like I thought it would).
I hate being alive and I'm constantly afraid that one day I'll be 50 and realize nothing ever got better and I spent decades crying out for something to get better, but what scares me even more than that is following through with an attempt only for it to severely disfigure or disable me. I would feel even more "trapped" in that state.

I'm almost 40, only 10 more to go to be even more dejected.
yeah.
We tell ourselve each decade that things will go better.
haha.

 

[mourningd0ve]

I'm almost 40, only 10 more to go to be even more dejected.
yeah.
We tell ourselve each decade that things will go better.
haha.

I can imagine how that must feel I've wanted to be dead since I was 14, and I was already dealing with severe depression from the age of 12.
I thought things would get better once high school was done, but now over a decade later, I'm still feeling the same way. I keep expecting different things to somehow change the way I view my life, but everything just gets worse. I feel like an old man already. It's exhausting.

 

[alexit]

It pisses me off the most successful methods are so brutal. We deserve better. Dignity. Agency. A pain-free exit.

 

[FuneralCry]

I really understand, it's just so horrifying to me how in this existence so evil and torturous it's made a crime to cease existing peacefully with no more pain and no more suffering, all that anti-suicide does is just cause harm and suffering, it's so horrific to me how these people want others to be tortured for as much and as long as possible.

It's such terrible extreme cruelty how people even have to fear trying to cease existing going wrong in the first place, I just always suffer so much from being trapped in this harmful existence so cruelly denied the option to just never exist again, I find it so horrific how there's no limit as to how much one can suffer in this existence I just always saw as the most terrible mistake, all I want is to be gone, to suffer in this existence will always be the most dreadful, cruel abomination to me.

 

[thinvy]

one, I'm already disabled. two, the stats look very different if you include impulsive attempts and attempts made with no other planning than just "which knife shall I use" or "surely taking a whole bottle of [random psych med that is specifically used because of its difficulty to overdose on] is enough to kill me" versus just planned, researched attempts from people who have had chronic depression/life issues.

like... I've been passively suicidal most of my life. basically since I knew I could die. every time I've been actively suicidal, I do hours of research and planning and think about exactly how i will end myself. I have a pretty solid plan, the willpower to actually go through with it when I'm ready, and most of the supplies needed to succeed.

all this to say that depending on what you include in statistics, you can dramatically change what those stats imply.

 

[ToANewWorld]

Yeah this is a big risk with some methods. I feel the 5 drug mix has t he highest chance of success of them all. As long as you take all of the drugs in their correct dosage you should be out.

 

[Busridin'26]

Bc ig gets to a point where the risk is worth it. Rather than be alive in this existence...

Like it just gets to a point where attempting is necessary or feels as such. Irregardless of risks. (Where im at)