Why don't people "Pew Pew" as a method if they are 18+ in America?

[OrganDonor57]

Besides obvious restrictions like a criminal background or failed mental evaluation preventing purchase, why don't people just opt for the firearm method? It has the highest success rate (82.5% and practically 100% with the proper method), and other alternative methods have a high failure rate, and if they do fail, they are likely to suffer even more, like brain damage and other significant health issues post-attempt.

 

[eggsausagerice]

money, recent involuntary hospitalization stopping you from buying a gun for 5 yrs (common with sasu folks), no gun license/gun experience. also the fear and subconscious image of gore. if you've never owned a gun or shotgun before then it's pretty scary to hold one knowing you're going to kill yourself with it. even people with guns back off initially because they feel frightened. i've read stories where people put the gun to their head for hours.

 

[Asya]

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[eggsausagerice]

@Asya gun laws more like gun in my jauws

 

[itsgone2]

You're right. Simple solution. Except I lack the guts to just buy one. Sort of close at one point. SI or maybe I'm just a coward.

 

[Bishop]

You're right. Simple solution. Except I lack the guts to just buy one. Sort of close at one point. SI or maybe I'm just a coward.

Nod. I think idea vs reality is very different. Perhaps Hollywood makes it seem that a firearm is an easy way to go. But holding one (which is slightly heavy) and then firing it (quite loud to me) is quite different than portrayed on tv. Like you said survival instinct comes in. But that's just my 2 cents.

 

[Forveleth]

Despite what the rest of the world thinks, we are not drowning in guns over here. There are many states with restrictions on gun purchases. Also, we are a big country. The closest gun store can literally be hours away and only accessible by car (not all of us have those either). Finally, guns are not cheap. If you want anything with some power behind it, you are looking at a minimum off $300.

On the other hand, I got a $15 rope delivered to my house from Amazon, no questions asked.

 

[Bishop]

Despite what the rest of the world thinks, we are not drowning in guns over here. There are man states with restrictions on gun purchases. Also, we are a big country. The closest gun store can literally be hours away and only accessible by car (not all of us have those either). Finally, guns are not cheap. If you want anything with some power behind it, you are looking at a minimum off $300.

On the other hand, I got a $15 rope delivered to my house from Amazon, no questions asked.

Exactly. Living in a coastal state gun acquisition is not easy. We are not all in Texas, Wyoming etc.

 

[Asya]

@Asya gun laws more like gun in my jauws

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[Dark Moon]

Same, if I was from the U.S I would have bought a gun and ctb'd by now. I just need experience using one.

 

[OrganDonor57]

Exactly. Living in a coastal state gun acquisition is not easy. We are not all in Texas, Wyoming etc.

Maybe I need to check my privilege as someone from a Southern state. Y'all got it rough over there lol.

 

[idontknowwhatiam]

Despite what the rest of the world thinks, we are not drowning in guns over here. There are many states with restrictions on gun purchases. Also, we are a big country. The closest gun store can literally be hours away and only accessible by car (not all of us have those either). Finally, guns are not cheap. If you want anything with some power behind it, you are looking at a minimum off $300.

On the other hand, I got a $15 rope delivered to my house from Amazon, no questions asked.

Red states are inundated with guns.... EVERYONE in Florida carries. It's insane.

 

[OrganDonor57]

Red states are inundated with guns.... EVERYONE in Florida carries. It's insane.

FOR REAL. I live in texas and I went into an academy and had never bought a gun before, and all I had to do was fill out a form and have a 3-day wait period lol.

 

[DeathSweetDeath]

After reading the stats on success rates of CTB methods, I moved to a state that requires no permit or license for that reason. After I got here, I found this site & realized a few things. First, there are other "softer" methods that work. Then I thought about how badly things go when people think they're aiming for the right spot but miss. Also, we have to use a method that we can actually get ourselves to do. I've seen other members say the same, they bought guns only to get them home & realize their SI is just too strong with that method.

 

[itsgone2]

I've seen other members say the same, they bought guns only to get them home & realize their SI is just too strong with that method.

It's true. Seems simple but it's not.
Nothing is. People do it every day. Trying to take inspiration from that.

 

[SASU-KE]

If I was living in the US,I would walk in like Arnold Schwarzenegger in Terminator Part 1 and buy everything in the shop,

I'd go out guns blazing!

Tis a good scene,@Mrs. T-800

 

[Passenger4224]

Firearm was my obvious choice, I'm surprised others in the US would consider methods before it.

But I was recently in a mental hospital, "voluntarily", so it's not really an option for me anymore. I am so incredibly dumb :(

 

[Seneca65AD]

I own both long-rifles and pistols but I promised my wife that I would not CTB using firearms. She was in a difficult position because she knew about my suicidal tendencies and tried to balance letting me participate in something I enjoy with the potential risk of my suicide. We had an open discussion and I agreed that I would never use a firearm to CTB. Note, I try not to discuss my suicidal ideations with my wife because I don't think it's fair to give her that constant stress. When I get really low, I just focus on getting up and suriving the next hour. Usually life comes through with something to get me off the "ledge" - and if it doesn't, then I'm here on SaSu

 

[Liebestod]

There are many reasons why such as the ones members listed already. I owned a rifle (it got seized by law enforcement) but I live in a state with the top five strictest gun laws. It wasn't easy getting it but I did nonetheless. Multiple background checks involved, had to submit my fingerprints to law enforcement, and had to have references vouch for me to be able to get my permit. My permit also got revoked after my firearm got seized but firearms are still my intended method to ctb. If you've seen my posts you know what I mean.

 

[Mrs. T-800]

If I was living in the US,I would walk in like Arnold Schwarzenegger in Terminator Part 1 and buy everything in the shop,

I'd go out guns blazing!

Tis a good scene,@Mrs. T-800

Ohmygoodness I'm getting a summons in a Terminator reference. I'm so happy.
The bad T-800 is such a cold guy. "Wrong." Wuuuu. If only it were that easy to do such a thing to myself.
Thanks for thinking of me ♡

 

[name2come]

Besides obvious restrictions like a criminal background or failed mental evaluation preventing purchase, why don't people just opt for the firearm method? It has the highest success rate (82.5% and practically 100% with the proper method), and other alternative methods have a high failure rate, and if they do fail, they are likely to suffer even more, like brain damage and other significant health issues post-attempt.

I mean, this seems like an appropriate time for "I understand where your coming from, but they very much do CTB by firearms in the US". It is the most common method in the US by a sizable margin. More than half of all suicides and more than twice as often as any other individual method.

It's not going to be for everyone. Getting a firearm requires some effort and attention, which can be a struggle for some. Especially in states that require considerably more effort. There can be barriers to people with documented mental illness struggles. There can be reasonable fears about both the ability to go through with it and the pain of the method. The consequences of a failed attempt are also massive. I could probably acquire a firearm, but the licensing procedure is enough of a hassle where I live that it just feels too daunting compared to alternatives.

 

[IDontKnow1000]

Lack of access to it.

And it's scary. Too radical maybe.

 

[Oiled Sandwich]

SI is a bitch with this method. If you know you know.

 

[Starfall]

Too broke and scared.

 

[hurts2b]

A lot of people don't like how violent it is. The blood/gore puts them off.

 

[isthisthingon]

Firearm was my obvious choice, I'm surprised others in the US would consider methods before it.

But I was recently in a mental hospital, "voluntarily", so it's not really an option for me anymore. I am so incredibly dumb :(

Does your state not allow private sales?

 

[eeriepuff]

Firearm was my obvious choice, I'm surprised others in the US would consider methods before it.

But I was recently in a mental hospital, "voluntarily", so it's not really an option for me anymore. I am so incredibly dumb :(

SAME! Oof it's why I told the police officers no when they came to pick me up and take me to the mental hospital LOL BC I KNEW I COULDN'T BUY A GUN IF THEY DID

 

[BradGuy123]

It's very easy to get a gun where I live. I think the fear is not doing it right. If you don't hit at the right spot or if your jerk you could either end up suffering in pain before your pass away or you could end up paralyzed, a vegetable, with brain damage, etc.

 

[isthisthingon]

It's very easy to get a gun where I live. I think the fear is not doing it right. If you don't hit at the right spot or if your jerk you could either end up suffering in pain before your pass away or you could end up paralyzed, a vegetable, with brain damage, etc.

It has the highest success rate though at 90%. Anecdotally, most failures happen shooting under the chin.

 

[BradGuy123]

It has the highest success rate though at 90%. Anecdotally, most failures happen shooting under the chin.

Thanks for pointing that out. I think it also has to due with the type of gun and caliber of bullet. I think there's a mega thread about this. I'm not really a gun person. My region of the US - there are a lot of gun nuts here with an arsenal of guns. I've seen videos and stuff and read their rants. It's just not my thing. If I ever had to CTB and used this method I'd have to do lots of research.