Discussion Which partial position would you choose out of these 2 ??

[heydude56]

Which one do you think would have higher chance of success?
No.1 or No.2?

 

[ummwhaaat]

Probably not much scientific data on this. I tried method 2, didn't work obviously. Not that it wasn't close, or isn't viable - I regained consciousness during the attempt and woke up, SI kicked in. Had a purple face for a week, couldn't feel the left side of my face etc. but I'm guessing no.1 is harder to recover from.

 

[yukiovos]

Probably not much scientific data on this. I tried method 2, didn't work obviously. Not that it wasn't close, or isn't viable - I regained consciousness during the attempt and woke up, SI kicked in. Had a purple face for a week, couldn't feel the left side of my face etc. but I'm guessing no.1 is harder to recover from.

I tried number 1 and i regained consciousness from it after passing out.

 

[heydude56]

Probably not much scientific data on this. I tried method 2, didn't work obviously. Not that it wasn't close, or isn't viable - I regained consciousness during the attempt and woke up, SI kicked in. Had a purple face for a week, couldn't feel the left side of my face etc. but I'm guessing no.1 is harder to recover from.

What do you think the reason you regained consciousness..? Could it be because after losing consciousness your legs straightened due to SI and made you sort of stand up?

 

[ummwhaaat]

Yeah I do believe that is the reason. But as I can see yukiovos tried #1 and had roughly the same experience and it's hard to know what's the 'best' method with anecdotal evidence like this.

EDIT:
It was not painful. Make sure you block your carotid arteries. The hardest part is overcoming SI and leaning into it.

 

[heydude56]

I tried number 1 and i regained consciousness from it after passing out.

I guess partial is just really hard to succeed in.. I wonder how some people get it done first try

 

[yukiovos]

I guess partial is just really hard to succeed in.. I wonder how some people get it done first try

When I tried it it had to apply and reapply pressure to pass out because my survival instinct wouldn't let me get passed that point where you start feeling dizzy and your vision starts to fade

 

[JesiBel]

The first position, as if sitting in the air with the legs forward. With a self-tightening knot on the ligature.

It seems more comfortable and easier. And if your body were to tense during the convulsions and spasms phase, you wouldn't be able to lift yourself up (involuntarily by these movements) in any way.

The second position is also good, you could extend your legs a little backwards.

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Partial hanging aftermath videos (with many body positions and places)

Partial hanging attempts: videos

 

[Off_Switch]

I guess partial is just really hard to succeed in.. I wonder how some people get it done first try

Will power or probably more intoxicated.

 

[heydude56]

Will power or probably more intoxicated.

I mean in this case willpower doesn't really matter since SI kicks in after blackout

 

[The Blackangel]

I never tried this method. I have a massive fear of not being able to draw in a breath. I always tried drop hanging. I have ended up with so many sprained necks that I can't even count them. I do know for a fact that it's in the double digits, though.

 

[PI3.14]

Waking up after finally succeeding in going unconscious gotta suck. I wish that doesn't happen to me.

 

[heydude56]

Waking up after finally succeeding in going unconscious gotta suck. I wish that doesn't happen to me.

Yeah the first time it happened it was extremely frustrating. But now it's happened multiple times so I'm like "oh well.."
Still pretty frustrating tho haha

 

[PI3.14]

Yeah the first time it happened it was extremely frustrating. But now it's happened multiple times so I'm like "oh well.."
Still pretty frustrating tho haha

For how long did you go unconscious for? Like seconds?

Do you get any injuries from surviving the attempt?

 

[AreWeWinning]

I tried number 1 and i regained consciousness from it after passing out.

When I tried it it had to apply and reapply pressure to pass out because my survival instinct wouldn't let me get passed that point where you start feeling dizzy and your vision starts to fade

You're contradicting yourself. You say you regained consciousness, and then you say your SI wouldn't let you to pass out?

In some of your previous posts you mentioned that you managed to pass out the first time and that you're struggling with losing consciousness since then, so that may be it, but the above comments are still confusing.

I tried to apply pressure from a kneeling position

The setup was from a handle about 1 meter tall and I sat down to apply the pressure.

You say you "tried number 1" (first quote at the top). But previously you said you used a kneeling position and you "sat down" (see quotes above). Those are not the positions in picture No. 1.

In the position shown in picture No. 1, you don't sit down, and your hips must not touch the floor, while your legs are extended forward.

 

[yukiovos]

You're contradicting yourself. You say you regained consciousness, and then you say your SI wouldn't let you to pass out?

In some of your previous posts you mentioned that you managed to pass the first time and that you're struggling with losing consciousness since then, so that may be it, but the above comments are still confusing.




You've also said previously that you used a kneeling position and that you "sat down". Those are not the positions in picture No. 1.

In the position shown in picture No. 1, you don't sit down, and your hips must not touch the floor, while your legs are extended forward.

I meant that I couldn't get it right the first time due to SI, thats why I had to try multiple times until i passed out.
About the position, it was very similar to no. 1 however it was about 1 meter tall so it was almost like laying down I would say.

I used the word leaning because like i said the anchor point was a lot lower and i had to "kneel" in a certain way that would make me start to feel dizzy

 

[AreWeWinning]

I meant that I couldn't get it right the first time due to SI, thats why I had to try multiple times until i passed out.
About the position, it was very similar to no. 1 however it was about 1 meter tall so it was almost like laying down I would say.

I used the word leaning because like i said the anchor point was a lot lower and i had to "kneel" in a certain way that would make me start to feel dizzy

Okay, so it wasn't the position shown in No. 1, only similar to it. Then next time, please say that!

There is a huge difference in pressure on the neck between a) sitting or lying down, and b) when your whole upper body is in the air. This is why the position shown in No. 1 is expected to work, while sitting or lying down is not.

It's like when people (not you, I'm talking in general) say "I did full suspension and it didn't work", and it turns out it wasn't in fact full suspension, because their feet were touching the ground. Details matter.

 

[heydude56]

For how long did you go unconscious for? Like seconds?

Do you get any injuries from surviving the attempt?

As I was unconscious at the time, there is no way to know exactly how long I was unconscious for.. but I wouldn't say it was very long since there weren't any serious long lasting injuries but I did feel pain somewhere in the neck region whenever I yawned for the next few weeks and obviously had the strangulation mark. And I don't know if this is the right word to use in this context but I did have some blood congestion(?) In my lower face region for a few days IIRC

For how long did you go unconscious for? Like seconds?

Do you get any injuries from surviving the attempt?

+ I'm pretty sure it's very unlikely for partial to have any sort of long lasting serious injuries to begin with.
The very fact that you woke back up implies that your body was likely still moving around a lot before regaining consciousness, which means there probably wasn't any serious brain damage yet.

But of course this is assuming that you regained consciousness on your own. (If you survived because the rope snapped or were found by someone, there could be very serious injuries)