Discussion Unpopular opinion but SN is a crappy CTB method

[CynicalCyanide]

I feel like dying off some sausage preserver that requires additional drugs makes it extremely inefficient. Heroin, fent, and morphine are just really simple. Either shoot it or eat it. No additional drugs required plus getting the best bliss of your life before you go out. DW is not that hard to use. The only tricky thing about the DW is getting pished by fake markets. Happened to me before. But I've gotten legit stuff from there. To be honest opioids or Pentobarbital are the way to go.

Wait did you find pentobarbital on the DW? Where?

 

[Kiryu6877]

Is fent really that easy to CTB with? Where I work I have access to dozens ampoules of it.

 

[Warriorsfan]

Liquid for IV
I think that is good.

 

[Forever Sleep]

How do you know your Fent is of sufficient strength to die by? Will a dealer sell you a lethal dose in one purchase? Why would they do that? I doubt they'd want to be connected to a death. So presumably, that means you will need to make a series of purchases from them, increasing your chances of being caught. If the police become interested enough to search your property, will you have the quantity to classify you as a dealer now?

Depends how carefree you feel about breaking the law really. It may be a better method but, it caries other risks. Would Fent be your preference over Nembutal? Why don't they use Fent in the suicide clinics, if it's the best method? I suppose it's easier to come by but it depends how accustomed you are to buying illegal drugs.

There's no way I'd attempt IV on myself or, break the law. It's horses for courses though really. I'm not sure I'd be 100% confident in any method.

 

[Ambien addict]

Is fent really that easy to CTB with? Where I work I have access to dozens ampoules of it.


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Is fent really that easy to CTB with? Where I work I have access to dozens ampoules of it.


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I have never used it..do you need to IV it? I thought people take it like a pill!I'm confused!

 

[swankysoup]

What's the info on the stomach cramps from SN?

 

[WatchmeBurn]

So your telling me that getting SN and a prescription med (which you can find without a prescription and both can be found on clear net) is harder than getting on darkweb and getting pure fent. You talk about benzos like they are something you can't get but talk about getting fent (I really don't understand your thinking). I guess you just want to prove a point and thus there is no meaning in talking to you about this anymore but I will leave this here. No method is perfect and maybe you should check threads about why ODing isn't the best. But you do you....

Getting SN is very hard these days now the main sources were taken down following arrests and investigations. Plus I don't think it is that hard to get prescription anti-emitics, at least not in the UK. Though Fentanyl is also hard to get here as it never really arrived here like it did in the US. The working man's drug is Coke which isn't as lethal and isn't as euphoric.

 

[upsidedowngoldfish]

Those meds can be found, like SN on most DNM

 

[Amarajoy]

If I had fentanyl on me, and SN - yes, I would choose fentanyl IV.
However:
1) fentanyl is harder to get than SN. Antiemetic, benzos are not a must for SN, SN alone can work too [but it can be prolonged].
2) 6/10 pain scale for SN is made up. Yes you vomit, yes you feel light headed, dizzy, like a bad flu. But you only feel this for 30mins. Not too bad for a CTB option is it?
3) Some people (like me) got huge opioid tolerance, I was taking up to 2,000mg morphine or oxycodone on 1 shot
4) also some people cannot do IV, I for example can, but the only vein I had access to, collapsed and scarred from doing IV too often, and now I don't have any vein access. Even I couldn't bring blood tests to my doctor, because two nurses pierced me 20 times, and they couldn't hit any vein or draw any blood.

So it's a matter of preference, and ease of access. You also overstated how badly you feel on SN - it's not that bad. Of course opioids IV is zero pain, and SN is somewhat uncomfortable, but it's still far better than other methods.

Any idea how much it is prolonged without benzoes and ae? I always thought the sn would make a person go unconscious and didn't realize it required all this extra stuff.

 

[TheCavernousDeep.]

Any idea how much it is prolonged without benzoes and ae? I always thought the sn would make a person go unconscious and didn't realize it required all this extra stuff.

Anti Emetics are for vomiting. The SN drink is extremely salty and there's a good chance you'll puke it up without antiemetics. If you vomit after the drink, you won't know how much of it you've absorbed (this is why they recommend you prepare two doses, it's so in case you vomit you can reup with a second drink).
The Benzos are to make the process more peaceful. Methemoglobinemia (the lethal mechanism of SN, which involves altering your hemoglobin so it can't carry oxygen), can cause racing heart rate, nausea, headaches, and later seizures. If you want to know the timeline for when people pass out, there are several posts on this sub of people documenting their experiences CTBing with SN.
That all being said: SN alone is likely fatal. As long as you don't vomit immediately and you have a second mixture of SN ready to go, you'll still probably die. And the Benzos are for making your passing more comfortable, they're not necessary as part of the lethal mechanism of the method.

 

[Amarajoy]

Anti Emetics are for vomiting. The SN drink is extremely salty and there's a good chance you'll puke it up without antiemetics. If you vomit after the drink, you won't know how much of it you've absorbed (this is why they recommend you prepare two doses, it's so in case you vomit you can reup with a second drink).
The Benzos are to make the process more peaceful. Methemoglobinemia (the lethal mechanism of SN, which involves altering your hemoglobin so it can't carry oxygen), can cause racing heart rate, nausea, headaches, and later seizures. If you want to know the timeline for when people pass out, there are several posts on this sub of people documenting their experiences CTBing with SN.
That all being said: SN alone is likely fatal. As long as you don't vomit immediately and you have a second mixture of SN ready to go, you'll still probably die. And the Benzos are for making your passing more comfortable, they're not necessary as part of the lethal mechanism of the method.

Thank you for your reply! That's what I'm wondering if benzos actually speed up the passing out. It seems to me they are purely for comfort. The sn will make a person unconscious is my understanding but maybe I'm missing something. But then again I think the pph has a pretty high amount it recommends for benzos. Though I don't think many take that much. I don't think I will be able to acquire benzos.

 

[Dark Moon]

It's not even available anymore where I'm from I don't think and those reasons are why I choose hanging instead, plus it might be faster. I'd choose fentanyl but that's not available either.