Tried to buy SN on eBay and...

[elizabeth.luck]

They messaged me, "Due to some problems we have had with customer misuse of this product, we now ask for the intended use in order to ensure our customers safety. What is your intended use of this product?"

Uhhhhhh.........

 

[HereToday]

Wow... Can't believe they ask that on that website. It really is a popular method now. As if that question will stop anyone though lol. 'Oh the usual, just plan to end my existence in this terrible world. So, about the shipping...'

 

[Carina]

There are legitimate uses, even for consumers. I mean, even if you just wanted to tell the difference in white and red oak flooring to make sure you bought the right replacement type. Shocked they'd ask to be honest. They know people would lie. Maybe just for deniability reasons?

 

[CyanideSoup]

Maybe they're covering there own backs and don't want to be seen as purposefully assisting suicide. They probably know people would lie but in their eyes they tried

 

[lofistos345]

Tell them it's for cooking. You are preserving some meat.

 

[HopeDiesLast]

I like to hunt and make my own jerky.

 

[Lotus1818]

wait which seller? the one from P land??

 

[EBEN30]

Just say it's to meat cure, that's what it's most commonly used for.

 

[Rena rossy]

Just say it's to meat cure, that's what it's most commonly used for.

Or even to cure potatoes, here in Peru some individuals do it

 

[hopeless__soul]

oh no, do you guys think pro-lifers will try to get sn banned in some way? is that even possible? maybe reduce the purity like they did with helium?

 

[Rena rossy]

oh no, do you guys think pro-lifers will try to get sn banned in some way? is that even possible? maybe reduce the purity like they did with helium?

I hope not, but unfortunately it might be possible, reducing the purity wouldn't light any red lights but still would be a measure for them to control the substance

 

[heheb27595]

reducing the purity

Yes, careful if it is pink because it is only 6,25% pure. It all I found in Cacanada.

 

[Berlin76]

oh no, do you guys think pro-lifers will try to get sn banned in some way?

Dont you people get it?
The police are watching this site they inform the seller and also get it of marketplaces like this one.
Because everyone just talks about it in the open like this is some secret room.

Here is a example where police openly say they are looking into SS.

‘Evil’ suicide forum encouraged woman to kill herself, relatives say

A young Pennsylvania woman with severe depression and anxiety killed herself after allegedly getting detailed instructions on a site that bills itself as a “pro-choice” suicide forum. Shawn Shatto,…

nypost.com

 

[lofistos345]

Dont you people get it?
The police are watching this site they inform the seller and also get it of marketplaces like this one.
Because everyone just talks about it in the open like this is some secret room.

Here is a example where police openly say they are looking into SS.

‘Evil’ suicide forum encouraged woman to kill herself, relatives say

A young Pennsylvania woman with severe depression and anxiety killed herself after allegedly getting detailed instructions on a site that bills itself as a “pro-choice” suicide forum. Shawn Shatto,…

nypost.com

No wonder the media doesn't get any respect. The "reporter" doesn't even makes
an a attempt to properly research the forum.

I'm very grateful for this community. All the help that I get here is wonderful. I choose my death.

 

[Moonicide]

I'm surprised, despite the fact that we all saw it coming. It was going to happen sooner or later, it just happened to be sooner. Even so, I don't think they can completely restrict Sodium Nitrite given the fact it's used for multiple purposes. Like many have said here, they are probably asking this question so they aren't liable for someone misusing the product... Do I think someone is watching this forum? Yes, to some extent. But as long as we are careful with our resources, we should be fine. I only discuss resources through DMs now.

 

[Berlin76]

I'm surprised, despite the fact that we all saw it coming. It was going to happen sooner or later, it just happened to be sooner. Even so, I don't think they can completely restrict Sodium Nitrite given the fact it's used for multiple purposes. Like many have said here, they are probably asking this question so they aren't liable for someone misusing the product... Do I think someone is watching this forum? Yes, to some extent. But as long as we are careful with our resources, we should be fine. I only discuss resources through DMs now.

Totally agree but the amount of people who got raided with N of here is not a coincidence anymore. To much info on everything every small detail including payment etc is followed by police here.
You never know who you are talking to here in pm.

And yes being more discreet on sources and own handling is important .

 

[waterbottleman]

Dont you people get it?
The police are watching this site they inform the seller and also get it of marketplaces like this one.
Because everyone just talks about it in the open like this is some secret room.

Here is a example where police openly say they are looking into SS.

‘Evil’ suicide forum encouraged woman to kill herself, relatives say

A young Pennsylvania woman with severe depression and anxiety killed herself after allegedly getting detailed instructions on a site that bills itself as a “pro-choice” suicide forum. Shawn Shatto,…

nypost.com

I read that article and it just gave me another reason among a billion already why I dislike and don't trust journalists.

This is the only website where I feel like I can express how I feel without being judged for it, without receiving the typical unthoughtful comments. This is the one website where I feel like even if people may not fully know who I am, they do not pretend to know who I am.

As a person who is suicidal due to a lifetime of loneliness it's nice to have a place like this, where my feelings aren't stomped on, where people show me some basic compassion and sympathy. It makes me feel like someone cares about me even if they are anonymous strangers online.

literally anywhere else I go on the internet it's full of judgment, negativity, hate. This place is so much more pleasant for people who are emotionally sensitive and want to live in a more compassionate world.

Its the world that is fucked up and evil, not this place.

 

[TowerUpright]

It's also the New York Post. Not the shining beacon of Journalism like The Onion or BuzzFeed.

 

[Quarky00]

The police are watching this site they inform the seller and also get it of marketplaces like this one.
Because everyone just talks about it in the open like this is some secret room.

What would you suggest regarding SN discussions?

It's not like N. And not like its raids. This is a legal readily available common substance. True others are listening. But what can we do. SN sources were not mentioned, it was mostly "google it" (etc). And if you can't say "google", there's not much that can be said... This would be true for the next generation SN.... Any hype about substance X would cause LE to search for it and contact seller.

Which is still a speculation, whether that even happened. I once found 3 SN sellers, later none, then 4, etc. APC was contacted by pro lifers, due to wiki (I think). There's no end to that.

 

[ImSoTired]

Dont you people get it?
The police are watching this site they inform the seller and also get it of marketplaces like this one.
Because everyone just talks about it in the open like this is some secret room.

Here is a example where police openly say they are looking into SS.

‘Evil’ suicide forum encouraged woman to kill herself, relatives say

A young Pennsylvania woman with severe depression and anxiety killed herself after allegedly getting detailed instructions on a site that bills itself as a “pro-choice” suicide forum. Shawn Shatto,…

nypost.com

Woah that's nuts. I think that article is full of BS but they wouldn't get it.

 

[S1mpleme]

They messaged me, "Due to some problems we have had with customer misuse of this product, we now ask for the intended use in order to ensure our customers safety. What is your intended use of this product?"

Uhhhhhh.........

You can tell them you're photographer and you work with old film cameras.

 

[Berlin76]

What would you suggest regarding SN discussions?

It's not like N. And not like its raids. This is a legal readily available common substance. True others are listening. But what can we do. SN sources were not mentioned, it was mostly "google it" (etc). And if you can't say "google", there's not much that can be said... This would be true for the next generation SN.... Any hype about substance X would cause LE to search for it and contact seller.

Which is still a speculation, whether that even happened. I once found 3 SN sellers, later none, then 4, etc. APC was contacted by pro lifers, due to wiki (I think). There's no end to that.

This article and her suicide started they whole problem here with raids and at exit international in Australia on all methods .
Their wher a whole lot of trols from one moment on the other in july. And than the raids started more and more. All due to the fact this site was facilitating the subject with no backup for recovery we only want peace and are sick.

The fact people really dont think on how much people say here outloud and thinking they are safe thats dangerous, they are also nonmembers who can get info here is to much. So for some who are anxious they blabber everything on their own orders its not smart to do that.

Just keep it low key do not mention names or where it is do that in PM.
Even here in holland when this sn came out as the substance to use. Politics and LE where on it to get it down.
Now only it can be sold if you have a company with dutch supplier's.

As example A for N his operation Definitely whent downhill when his exposure went through the roof with ss Starting in 2018.
All the years before he was low key only some of exit member got raided now and then.

Now A,s whole operation is going downhill
since ss got exposed with the suicide of Shawn.. And his product is ilegal so now interpol DEA and the Australian LE are on it to catchs him they already have arrested his partner.

So the correlation is clear.
We all just have to be more clever with places where we can get it and how we talk about it or mention it..

 

[Lara Francis]

Do they really expect us to say,yes i just want it to ctb !!
As if .
They will always be the perfectly plausable reason for its purchase as a meat curing product and they cant prove otherwise.
I was not asked any questions and recieved it without a problem from the same site.

 

[Berlin76]

Woah that's nuts. I think that article is full of BS but they wouldn't get it.

Her parents were clueless about her depression. So they got mad and informed the police about us here.
So never encouraged people to kill themselves because it can turn on you later. And just be discreet on sources

 

[Quarky00]

@Berlin76, I agree with the basic notion, keep it low key , people outside are reading us . But N from A is not like SN . You don't need a raid just call suppliers . Even randomly .

"Politics and LE where on it to get it down. Now only it can be sold if you have a company with dutch supplier's." - because someone outed a dutch supplier? I don't see a solution for something that is , unlike N , readily available .

 

[Berlin76]

@Berlin76, I agree with the basic notion, keep it low key , people outside are reading us . But N from A is not like SN . You don't need a raid just call suppliers . Even randomly .

"Politics and LE where on it to get it down. Now only it can be sold if you have a company with dutch supplier's." - because someone outed a dutch supplier? I don't see a solution for something that is , unlike N , readily available .

They called it agent x in holland a substance that is for preservation.
Well they did not like that so if they need to they will raid when its needed.

They are still working to get it on a list not for public use or something like that.

But also because medical staf surgen they said on tv that with this. The person doesn't know what will stop first. Would it be breathing that stops first or passing out first or something in the brain first?

So its not really peaceful because its not ment for suicide like N.

 

[Quarky00]

That's bad, but what can we do about it.

 

[waterbottleman]

Her parents were clueless about her depression. So they got mad and informed the police about us here.
So never encouraged people to kill themselves because it can turn on you later. And just be discreet on sources

I feel sympathy for the parents and understand why they would hate this website. I don't blame them for feeling that way even if I disagree with their perspective on this website.

It's the journalist who wrote the article who I blame for spreading false information.

I also don't blame the parents for being clueless, I intentionally have hidden my suicidal tendencies to everyone in real life. I don't want to be a burden to anyone, but I also am seriously considering suicide so I don't want anyone to know that I'm planning/considering it. If my parents knew I already had SN and I intend to ctb with it I know they would put me in a psychiatric hospital and take away my SN.

This website is the only place where I express my feelings of depression and loneliness.

 

[Berlin76]

I feel sympathy for the parents and understand why they would hate this website. I don't blame them for feeling that way even if I disagree with their perspective on this website.

It's the journalist who wrote the article who I blame for spreading false information.

I also don't blame the parents for being clueless, I intentionally have hidden my suicidal tendencies to everyone in real life. I don't want to be a burden to anyone, but I also am seriously considering suicide so I don't want anyone to know that I'm planning/considering it. If my parents knew I already had SN and I intend to ctb with it I know they would put me in a psychiatric hospital and take away my SN.

This website is the only place where I express my feelings of depression and loneliness.

It's good we all can express our self here about how we feel and what we think.
Thats the beauty of this here.


But one thing Is sure we are being watched and we need to be careful about what we say and post. They dont like noise so lets keep it down a bit just enough to understand each other

 

[Ame]

If it's not too much trouble, would you mind PMing me the seller's country? This is just so I can have confirmation. I really hope that this isn't the vendor I am thinking of, because that is the only one - that I know of anyway - that will sell SN to residents of my country. It would be a mood killer (but not a me killer) for sure...but then again I'm sure that I could make up a reason/fake research application. Still, it's a bother.