Help the problem of finding the causes of the problem

[ypsilon12]

Do most people here know what factors most strongly influence suicidal thoughts? Because I have a problem that I more or less know what makes me feel so bad, but when I start to think about it more and more, it seems to me that it's not like that. I don't know how to solve the problem when I don't know what causes it. Are there any methods for finding specific things that make someone want to take their own life? And how can I then verify if it's really because of it? I know I can go to a psychologist or something like that, but then it makes me dependent on them.

 

[moonlightbeach]

Thwarted belongingness, perceived burdensomeness, acquired capability, hopelessness, socioeconomic status, personality traits, racism, classism, stigma, exposure to violence, discrimination, stressful life events, dysfunction

Nice general study for why adolescents (18-25) ctb - "Why do adolescents attempt suicide? Insights from leading ideation-to-action suicide theories: a systematic review" https://doi.org/10.1038/s41398-024-02914-y . Discussion is the part you should read

 

[SanagiMezamete]

I understand myself and what causes my suicidal ideation very well, but it took about a decade for me to get this point. For some it is easier than others; YMMV.

People have taken their lives for any number of reasons so it's hard to say what might be causing it without more information. If I had to throw some possibilities out there for an underlying cause, it seems these days that loneliness, financial strain, and the unstable/hostile sociopolitical climate have been leading causes of despair and suicide. Also seen lots of burnout and mental fatigue from overworking. I have no stats to back that up, it's based on anecdotal experience and personal observations.

I think it takes a whole lot of introspection and sometimes outside perspectives to verify the reasons yourself. It can be very helpful talking to people you trust about these things. It doesn't necessarily have to be a therapist. Unfortunately not everyone is going to be effective at helping you in this way (including professionals) so you might have to shop around for the right people.

There are many things that could be blocking your awareness of the true underlying problem. For a long time I struggled to understand my own feelings because of internalized shame. It was too painful to think about and I couldn't admit my own problems to myself. When I forgave myself for the way I feel and accepted that my problems were valid, the shame eased up, and the fog cleared.

 

[ypsilon12]

I understand myself and what causes my suicidal ideation very well, but it took about a decade for me to get this point. For some it is easier than others; YMMV.

People have taken their lives for any number of reasons so it's hard to say what might be causing it without more information. If I had to throw some possibilities out there for an underlying cause, it seems these days that loneliness, financial strain, and the unstable/hostile sociopolitical climate have been leading causes of despair and suicide. Also seen lots of burnout and mental fatigue from overworking. I have no stats to back that up, it's based on anecdotal experience and personal observations.

I think it takes a whole lot of introspection and sometimes outside perspectives to verify the reasons yourself. It can be very helpful talking to people you trust about these things. It doesn't necessarily have to be a therapist. Unfortunately not everyone is going to be effective at helping you in this way (including professionals) so you might have to shop around for the right people.

There are many things that could be blocking your awareness of the true underlying problem. For a long time I struggled to understand my own feelings because of internalized shame. It was too painful to think about and I couldn't admit my own problems to myself. When I forgave myself for the way I feel and accepted that my problems were valid, the shame eased up, and the fog cleared.

Sorry for replying so late. I've been busy lately

I agree with you that probably talking to somebody I trust might be helpful but finding these people is another big problem. I sure have family but I have a different type of closeness with these people and I would rather not talk to them about my problems. I also have one friend that I know for 10 years but I would definitely not talk to him about it. Making new friends is incredibly difficult for me and the last time I met someone was in primary school. I also feel big misunderstanding with others. It often happens that I completely misunderstand what someone meant and often people, instead of explaining or discussing the matter with me, just move away and don't engage further. I think it may be like that because I'm on the autism spectrum but I'm not completely sure becouse It is often said that nowadays most people have problems with social interactions.

However, I don't feel like I can't admit to myself my problems. I'm actually trying to do that, but I just don't know what those problems are but I really feel that something is wrong. I also wondered if maybe my problem is that I think I have a problem. But then I think to myself: maybe my problem is that I think I have a problem, that my problem is that I think I have a problem. And I think about it over and over again until I come to the conclusion that I just don't know