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noname223

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This morning when I read a certain newspaper there were reviews of new books that were published in German. I usually skip these reviews but one book was about the CIA in the 21st century.
The book sounded interesting but I was sceptical whether it would actually be worth buying or to do research about.

But I gave it a chance. I tried to download it for free but I didn't do it eventually. I did some research on the topic and author. Many Youtube comments and Amazon reviews were very positive. (Bought?)

Actually, I think this book is not really worth reading. The author is Tim Weiner a New York Times journalist. Which was sort of a red flag. Despite the fact he won the Pulitzer Prize as a part of the system I doubt he can actually report critically on this topic. Mainstream media is often horrible covering intelligence services. He is relying on the sources that feed him. Why would he write something that displeases the hands that feed him?

I didn't read the book I have to admit that but I did some research whether it would be worth reading. Basically, this book has no new insights. It just repeats stuff that is well known and denies everything that might take place but will never will come out. This book is a gift for the CIA. I watched a Youtube video of him talking about the book. There is an author with good reputation who is perceived as very critical of the CIA, repeats stuff that is well known. This gives him credibility and then he denies all secret operations that might take place but that are not known to the public. I assume such an author would have denied mass surveillance is taking place before Edward Snowden spilled the tea. Also the way how he did research for this book. He only uses declassified documents. I think this book shows how propaganda works. He can cite official documents, most of them can even be true. But he fades out the fact that there are operations happening that are not available in these official/declassified documents. You can go that far of criticizing the CIA, this critique is allowed but don't go beyond that otherwise we won't give you the sources to publish these good selling books/articles that you can present as scoops.

He gives legitimacy to the CIA with this book. He also downplays the capabilities of the CIA at the same time. He only writes what can be proven. And by doing that it gives this book a massive bias. And I don't see any journalist who is pointing that out. In the end they stabilize the system by not pointing out what is obvious.

What do you think?

The thing is he does not even have to lie to serve this agenda. All of what he reports can be considered factually true. But there are many gaps and omissions in the way he covers this topic. He does not even mention the potential bias of writing such a book, relyiny on interviews with CIA directors. It distorts the actual truth and he even does not need to lie to achieve that. That's how propaganda works. You can rely on true statements but in the way you synthesize them the entire piece can still be completely biased.
 
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DarkRange55

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No big claims, i've mentioned this on here before, I've been involved in optics research before and physics and math can really take you everywhere and also I've mentioned I had managed a team at the NRO when I was very young. No Jason Borne or James Bond. Just desk jokey number cruncher. But until the 1990's, the NRO's existence was classified. Their budget, like the CIA's is classified. The NRO is essentially half Air Force and half CIA made up largely of civilian contractors. They manage, maintain and design all the spy satellites and track foreign nuclear submarines.

So NRO is national reconnaissance office. Here's a little excerpt from wiki for you for context,

"A 1996 bipartisan commission report described the NRO as having by far the largest budget of any intelligence agency, and "virtually no federal workforce", accomplishing most of its work through "tens of thousands" of defense contractorpersonnel.[11] From its founding in 1961 the NRO's existence was classified and not revealed publicly until 1992.

In the 1980s, the NRO had satellites and software that were capable of determining the exact dimensions of a tank gun.[26]In 2012 the agency donated two space telescopesto NASA. Despite being stored unused, the instruments are superior to the Hubble Space Telescope. One journalist observed, "If telescopes of this caliber are languishing on shelves, imagine what they're actually using."[67]"



Lets just dial in for a second on something like the military or in particular SOCCOM because that is what our government and intelligence services are increasingly relying on.

Ever heard of Cemetery Wind? Check the link below


Both the CO and size of "Delta Force" is classified.


I mean the CIA ran a dummy air line company for drug smuggling


They have contracts with big companies like Boeing to make tanker aircraft. They fund projects and small companies like the F-35. They fund maybe 50% of the labs at UC Berkeley and stuff. "Own" is a nebulous term. They control it because they control the money (they're the only one funding).
You know "Area 52" not 51. 52. The Tonopah Test Range in Nevada. Its operated by a private company, security is contracted privately and its daily operations are managed by a private company. Its leases from the Department of Energy which as I've said is really the Department of Nuclear Weapons.


I was just in New Mexico. Los Alamos National Laboratory is expanding by 30% and adding 10,000 jobs for new plutonium pits.

If I remember, the nuclear weapons manufacturinginfrastructure is owned by the government. Some of it is run by corporations, some by universities, and some by the government itself.



In response to 9/11 the security and intelligence bureaucracy grew geometrically. 1,500 agencies and departments were created in response.


You also have to remember fewer people means fewer leaks. The CIA and military and government will sometimes purposely give false information in reports just to help track down possible leaks.

It's also more secret and compartmentalized teams. You have some cowboys acting with little to no oversight, you have slush funds. A lot of stuff is funded indirectly or you have shelter progeams and departments. Those aide workers from the Department of Agriculture's subdivision or those cultural attachés or NGO's, etc. Sun Tzu said warfare is based on deception.

A lot of the CIA is just bureaucracy and thugs beating each other up in back allies. CIA is HUMINT so its a lot of bribing, blackmailing, coercing, kidnapping, extracting information from people… look into SAD how they have a political arm and a paramilitary force.



Idk thats just some ramblings… 🤷‍♀️

The CIA and military and intelligence services are getting too close to each other now but there is a lot of infighting you'd be surprised. I think we saw more of that come to surface during the first Trump admin. It's a lot of politics even at that level. The FBI actively feuds with the CIA. Not in some failed state Mexican cartel sense though.
 
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