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negi-maguro

negi-maguro

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Mar 2, 2025
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Story/vent:
Before work, today I went to the mall and played maimai, a rhythm game at the arcade. I've always been shy and pretty pessimistic about myself, and that carries over into rhythm games too, so I usually go during the emptiest hours. For context, maimai has a huge scene here in SEA, with lots of communities and friend groups forming around it. I've always stayed on the sidelines tho, partly because I only play casually, but mostly because of my own personality, which has left me with very few friends, let alone ones who play the game. I almost always play maimai alone, even though the game encourages duo play. Sometimes when other people are around, I really want to play with them; once in a while I can bring myself to ask, but most of the time I just stick to the sidelines as long as there's an empty cab.

Today, I was very disappointed with myself. As usual, since I play at weird hours, I play alone. While I was resting, a person came up to the machines. She just stood there fiddling with her gloves and stuffs. Since the arcade is in the middle of changing its payment system, I figured she was confused about why her card wasn't working, so I took the initiative to tell her that she could only use coins right now. There was some distance between us and the machine was blasting demo songs, so I told her from afar with a bit of hand gestures pointing at the machine and my coin case. She replied with something I couldn't really hear (and she wore a mask), pointed at my coin case, then went to get some coins. I automatically assumed she didn't want to play with me, so I just inserted my coins and started playing alone. She came back to find me already mid-game and ended up playing solo on the next cab. While playing, I kept thinking about asking her to play duo (and getting the duo bonuses), but I was too shy to ask after she finished, so I just packed up and went to work. Deep down, I know the real reason I left was because I assumed I'd just be a bother and that nobody actually wants to play with me. Thinking about it again later, I realized there was a good chance she is open to play with me. Nothing she did really suggested otherwise. My gestures might've come across as an invitation to play together, especially since she nodded before going to get coins. I think I failed to read that in the moment and I just let my own assumptions decide for me.

Problem and Question:
This has shook me to the core, and I'm honestly really disappointed with myself. Maybe it's because I' have been exercising more and actually getting enough sleep lately, but I was finally able to look back at the interaction clearly and it was me shutting myself down because of low self-esteem. For the past few years, I have more or less accepted the idea that I will end up alone and that nobody would ever want me as a friend/partner/whatever, so I've slowly closed myself off from interacting with people at all. I'm really into Japanese media and I go to cons, but I'm always just there to walk around and buy merch, never to actually connect with anyone. Self-hatred has made me almost completely disengage from people, and I'm especially shy around women. But I digress, my point is somewhere along the way I internalized the idea that my very existence takes up space that bothers others, and that belief is a big reason I sometimes feel suicidal. Now, I don't want to jump straight to asking how to not be suicidal, I just want to feel normal in opening myself up or at least exist to be social with other.

My point is, I believe that I will always be rejected. Not only that, I'm extremely scared of rejection and failure, to the point that I don't even try. So, I have a question: How do you deal with the constant assumption that you'll be rejected before you even try? I really don't want to repeat what had happened today. I could have played with another person, but I chickened out. Kinda stupid thing to vent about, but I can't stop thinking about it.
 
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DoAnythingMore

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Jan 29, 2025
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I don't think you should be disappointed in yourself at all. This kind of stuff happens, just a classic misunderstanding between 2 socially awkward people.

Take it as a learning experience. After all, failing is usually the best way to learn. In no way should you guilt yourself over the situation not going as you wanted or expected.


For the past few years, I have more or less accepted the idea that I will end up alone and that nobody would ever want me as a friend/partner/whatever

I'm no doctor or psychiatrist but this sounds like a cognitive distortion caused by depression and/or low self-esteem. I know it's probably pretty hard to think otherwise right now but I'm sure there are people out there who would genuinely enjoy your company. The fact that you wanted this situation to go differently tells me that you clearly still have hope and desire to find friends or a partner.


somewhere along the way I internalized the idea that my very existence takes up space that bothers others

I know my opinion wasn't asked for here, but as long as you're not intentionally causing harm to others, you're not "taking up space" or bothering anyone. Just do things you like and enjoy life the way you can. :)


How do you deal with the constant assumption that you'll be rejected before you even try?

I can relate to this a lot. I have a big fear of failure when trying new things or trying to make something out of myself so a lot of the time I just end up procrastinating and not doing what I really want to do (like learning skills, making art, music or games etc.).

So far the only thing that has helped me with my fear of failure is to allow myself to fail. Accept that failure is a part of the process and that I'm not going to fail 100% of the time. This helps take the pressure off that I need to succeed, as long as I try my best that's enough no matter how it goes.

I also like to think that making new friends can be like fishing. You can do everything right and get nothing but as long as you keep trying you're eventually bound to catch one.
 
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Jan 5, 2026
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I identify a lot with what you wrote.
You put my thoughts into words better than I could have. And it's inspiring to see other people in a similar situation who still have hope. I think we both fight extreme low self worth and confidence. it feels like our mind is fighting against our self's with those beliefs.

It stings to miss opportunities,
I wish I could give you a single good advice but I still struggle with it myself
It took me 7 months ( and over 10 years of extreme lonliness) from the second that I thought about approaching a girl to actually do it and you know what? It went better then I could have envisioned it. And it included a lot of calling myself a loser and a0 and that I'll die friendless etc every time I chickened out or made myself bs reasons not to do it, until I broke and forced myself to. In hindsight it's was not bad at all.

Until now I keep telling myself, next time I see someone looking at me or we lock eyes for some time I'll just say hello and try to gauge if they are open to get to know each other
But then it happens and my brain literally short circuits in real time and I do nothing.
All The Time.

There's a few beliefs I try to hound into my mind which seem to help me. It's not easy at all but I think if they increase the chance of you acting at the right moment even by 0.5% it's worth it.



0. You can't assume what they are thinking of you because your world view is wraped in your negative lenses.
(When people look at you they don't see what you see, a loser waste of air, they don't see your views, isolation and what you've been through, they probably just see a normal young guy/girl)

1. People are usually nicer than your brain will have you believe, worst case scenario the girl at the arcade would have ignored you or said she's not interested, you say oh ok and go back to do your thing and you are literally at the same place you were, and if she said yes who know, maybe you would have found your new arcade pal!

2. No one really cares, even if it will be awkward and you stutter ( I have a lot)
she probably will forget you within 15 minutes anyways, and you'll never see each other again and even if you do it's meaningless.
but the upside if it goes well is so much higher!

3. You have to go against your negative belief you think I'm not good enough for her, she's better off without me (big one for me) etc..
You think, who am I to decide that? Maybe she's thinking the same about herself?
Could make both of our times better and there's no commitment from any side.

4. Even if it doesn't go well at least you have a funny story, or a Human experience. you PROVED yourself you can do it!, next time it will become easier

Probably the most important one is that once you want to do something like that is to not let your mind think about it and convince you to not do it, I found that once my legs start to walk towards them my mind has no choice but to go on with me. It's hard really fucking hard. But I'm hoping it will get easier as I force myself into it more and more and I hope it works for you too

Hopefully you can find some substance in my writing. Good luck on your path!
 
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webb&flow

dum spiro spero—take it as it comes
Nov 30, 2024
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there will always be more people and more chances ❤️

In time good an open person will be in your vicinity and you will be ready to reach out and pluck that connection.

This hesitance is not "being weak" or anything like that; it's just a state of conditioning. You have realized this and are now asking "How can I change this?". You are self-aware of your own thoughts and have realized how they affect your actions to such a degree that you are frustrated with the unwanted result. I have good news for you—it is very possible to recondition yourself :).

There are countless ways to do this, and an infinity of possible advices of this, but I will dip into a small amount of that infinity right now, and advise you a little :).

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but that can create an unhealthy internal critic voice, that can act as an anxious antithesis to wanting to interact with people. If you have this voice, you must critique in turn. How can you critique it best? Reach out to people, get good experiences serendipitous experiences. So whenever that voice tries to talk shit, you can point to those good experiences and say "BOO-YAH!".
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You got this negi-maguro :). You can always get more skilled, more familiar; and the more ready you are, the luckier you get ~
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