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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
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Do you think this statement is true? I think it's one of the big- maybe the biggest hurdles in front of accepting suicide as an option for people. Especially assisted suicide. This idea that no problem is too big to be solved so therefore- suicide is never the answer.

Surely, in some circumstances, people conceed. Probably mostly incurable illness. Defined by doctors presumably. Even there though, you'll get the hardcore pro-lifers suggesting ways people can live with their debilitating illness. That pisses me off the most really.

Perhaps we will get to a stage where mental illness will be better accepted as intolerable. Still, I suspect the 'patient' will have to be able to provide evidence of multiple failed treatments.

I wonder if the same criteria is applied to physical illness. Surely, we are allowed to reject treatment there. I wonder if people are still admitted for assisted suicide if they have rejected treatment. How much is enough? How many hoops of fire will they need to leap through to prove that they can't be helped?

I wonder how they ascertain it too. Maybe there are certain illnesses they know to be especially painful and debilitating and they also know that current treatment is limited. Perhaps they are more willing to conceed that assisted suicide should be an option there. I wonder if the same will ever be applied to mental illness.

Do you ever wonder if it's an ego thing? Doctors and the medical profession at large not being willing to admit defeat that, they can't in fact cure all illness and as a result, people are left suffering. Plus, I suspect it generates a lot of cash when so many people are reliant on drugs.

I doubt relatively healthy people will ever get access to assisted suicide . I can't see them accepting people who want out because they simply don't like life. What would the criteria even be there? I've tried all these different things and, everything sucks!
 
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FoxSauce

FoxSauce

Emotional unstable like and IKEA table
Aug 23, 2024
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Honeslty, well, yeah true that somepeople can be helped but can you really blame them?

Dealing with constant physical or mental pain is agonizing as it is. People didn't ask for and dealing also with people that don't take you seriously can be a push over the edge.

Some people think mental illness is for the weak, crazy people or something you can just get over by being positive.

Life sucks and dealing with something you can't control is just awful

For assisted cbt then I have no clue what to say bout that tbh I know that is frowned upon but thats all I know-
 
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2messdup

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Do you think this statement is true? I think it's one of the big- maybe the biggest hurdles in front of accepting suicide as an option for people. Especially assisted suicide. This idea that no problem is too big to be solved so therefore- suicide is never the answer.

Surely, in some circumstances, people conceed. Probably mostly incurable illness. Defined by doctors presumably. Even there though, you'll get the hardcore pro-lifers suggesting ways people can live with their debilitating illness. That pisses me off the most really.

Perhaps we will get to a stage where mental illness will be better accepted as intolerable. Still, I suspect the 'patient' will have to be able to provide evidence of multiple failed treatments.

I wonder if the same criteria is applied to physical illness. Surely, we are allowed to reject treatment there. I wonder if people are still admitted for assisted suicide if they have rejected treatment. How much is enough? How many hoops of fire will they need to leap through to prove that they can't be helped?

I wonder how they ascertain it too. Maybe there are certain illnesses they know to be especially painful and debilitating and they also know that current treatment is limited. Perhaps they are more willing to conceed that assisted suicide should be an option there. I wonder if the same will ever be applied to mental illness.

Do you ever wonder if it's an ego thing? Doctors and the medical profession at large not being willing to admit defeat that, they can't in fact cure all illness and as a result, people are left suffering. Plus, I suspect it generates a lot of cash when so many people are reliant on drugs.

I doubt relatively healthy people will ever get access to assisted suicide . I can't see them accepting people who want out because they simply don't like life. What would the criteria even be there? I've tried all these different things and, everything sucks!
I think there are people who can't be helped. I also think when you are suffering with clinical depression that you see everything through a lens and your mind can lie to you. Then there are the people with treatment resistant depression. As for assisted dying, the problem is that from what I see in MSM and social media, most of the public think that anything that doesn't involve delusions and/or hallucinations are just weakness and they certainly don't recognise or understand that mental pain exists. They think that with the right incentive (usually, in their opinion, some sort of kick up the arse), everyone would be fine, and that people just need to pull themselves together and stop imagining they have a problem. And I truly hate them for that. and there's nothing that can be done to change those beliefs and attitudes. So I stay away from all that stuff unless I'm in s\h mode..
 
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hang in there

get it, har har
Apr 17, 2025
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I think there are people who can't be helped. I also think when you are suffering with clinical depression that you see everything through a lens and your mind can lie to you. Then there are the people with treatment resistant depression. As for assisted dying, the problem is that from what I see in MSM and social media, most of the public think that anything that doesn't involve delusions and/or hallucinations are just weakness and they certainly don't recognise or understand that mental pain exists. They think that with the right incentive (usually, in their opinion, some sort of kick up the arse), everyone would be fine, and that people just need to pull themselves together and stop imagining they have a problem. And I truly hate them for that. and there's nothing that can be done to change those beliefs and attitudes. So I stay away from all that stuff unless I'm in s\h mode..
>most of the public think that anything that doesn't involve delusions and/or hallucinations are just weakness
Ahaha... I have interacted with plenty of people who completely disregard the concept of psychosis and pull the same schtick as those you have mentioned in your post... "it's not real, they're just weak, addicted to psych meds for no reason, making it up, playing a part," yadda yadda... It's really disgusting the degree to which people will shove the sick under the bus in order to make themselves feel better about the state of the world. To think they might actually have to contemplate a world in which your brain can break to that extent... No, it is much more comfortable to say it's all lies and there are no such thing as neurologic or psychiatric conditions at all. The human brain is indestructable. Of course...
 
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LittleMagician

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Apr 17, 2025
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It is because if assisted suicide was legalised, the human population would lose so many people and the government can't have that happen because they need a load of helpless workers to sell their body for minimum wage to keep their dysfunctional society running. If you give people open and easy access to suicide then people on mass will voluntarily choose to end their lives.



I wonder how they ascertain it too. Maybe there are certain illnesses they know to be especially painful and debilitating and they also know that current treatment is limited. Perhaps they are more willing to conceed that assisted suicide should be an option there. I wonder if the same will ever be applied to mental illness.

Do you ever wonder if it's an ego thing? Doctors and the medical profession at large not being willing to admit defeat that, they can't in fact cure all illness and as a result, people are left suffering. Plus, I suspect it generates a lot of cash when so many people are reliant on drugs.

I doubt relatively healthy people will ever get access to assisted suicide . I can't see them accepting people who want out because they simply don't like life. What would the criteria even be there? I've tried all these different things and, everything sucks!

Do you think this statement is true? I think it's one of the big- maybe the biggest hurdles in front of accepting suicide as an option for people. Especially assisted suicide. This idea that no problem is too big to be solved so therefore- suicide is never the answer.

Surely, in some circumstances, people conceed. Probably mostly incurable illness. Defined by doctors presumably. Even there though, you'll get the hardcore pro-lifers suggesting ways people can live with their debilitating illness. That pisses me off the most really.

Perhaps we will get to a stage where mental illness will be better accepted as intolerable. Still, I suspect the 'patient' will have to be able to provide evidence of multiple failed treatments.

I wonder if the same criteria is applied to physical illness. Surely, we are allowed to reject treatment there. I wonder if people are still admitted for assisted suicide if they have rejected treatment. How much is enough? How many hoops of fire will they need to leap through to prove that they can't be helped?

I wonder how they ascertain it too. Maybe there are certain illnesses they know to be especially painful and debilitating and they also know that current treatment is limited. Perhaps they are more willing to conceed that assisted suicide should be an option there. I wonder if the same will ever be applied to mental illness.

Do you ever wonder if it's an ego thing? Doctors and the medical profession at large not being willing to admit defeat that, they can't in fact cure all illness and as a result, people are left suffering. Plus, I suspect it generates a lot of cash when so many people are reliant on drugs.

I doubt relatively healthy people will ever get access to assisted suicide . I can't see them accepting people who want out because they simply don't like life. What would the criteria
 
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vitbar

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Jun 4, 2023
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It's difficult to know without having universally available decent treatment. My hunch is that there will still be cases. Some refuse help regardless, and some will have issues that can't be mitigated enough to make living worthwhile.
 
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Head is just crumbs
May 5, 2025
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It is because if assisted suicide was legalised, the human population would lose so many people and the government can't have that happen because they need a load of helpless workers to sell their body for minimum wage to keep their dysfunctional society running. If you give people open and easy access to suicide then people on mass will voluntarily choose to end their lives.
Tbh it says more about the world we live in than about the people

Life truly does suck lol
 
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Britney Spears

Britney Spears

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Jan 4, 2025
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For me, with each passing day, life becomes less of a life, and I don't consider it life at all. I'm in transition on the way to my CTB. I'm like a living dead person, in a confused state of shock💔
 
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Griever

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May 1, 2025
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After many years of therapy, I have come to the conclusion that maybe I can't be helped and I have to accept that death is the only solution to my problems
 
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_Minsk

_Minsk

death: the cure for life
Dec 9, 2019
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i agree, some people cant be helped. maybe medicine advances but so far it feels like were still stuck in the caves with sticks, much is possible but not everyone can be helped yet
 
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dust-in-the-wind

Animal Lover
Aug 24, 2024
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I can't be helped. I've tried no less than 20 meds and ECT. I've been suffering with major depression since 18. I'm 55 now. I've had a few good years when the meds work but eventually they don't and now nothing works. I spend most of my days bedridden. I've come to the conclusion that I am terminal.
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
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I can't be helped. I've tried no less than 20 meds and ECT. I've been suffering with major depression since 18. I'm 55 now. I've had a few good years when the meds work but eventually they don't and now nothing works. I spend most of my days bedridden. I've come to the conclusion that I am terminal.

I'm so sorry. It's so sad when people have done so much and gone through so much in good faith.
 
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_Minsk

death: the cure for life
Dec 9, 2019
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I can't be helped. I've tried no less than 20 meds and ECT. I've been suffering with major depression since 18. I'm 55 now. I've had a few good years when the meds work but eventually they don't and now nothing works. I spend most of my days bedridden. I've come to the conclusion that I am terminal.
im sorry to hear that. what causes your depression? do you have any assumptions?
 
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dust-in-the-wind

Animal Lover
Aug 24, 2024
695
im sorry to hear that. what causes your depression? do you have any assumptions?
Getting older and fearing all kinds of horrible health ailments. Unfortunately I have some bad health genetics that have been passed on to me. They haven't affected me yet but they're coming for me. But when I was younger I could be severely depressed for no reason at all.
 
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divinemistress36

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Jan 1, 2024
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Getting older and fearing all kinds of horrible health ailments. Unfortunately I have some bad health genetics that have been passed on to me. They haven't affected me yet but they're coming for me. But when I was younger I could be severely depressed for no reason at all.
Faulty brain wiring is what I say about mine. How many ECT sessions did you do?
 
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dust-in-the-wind

Animal Lover
Aug 24, 2024
695
Faulty brain wiring is what I say about mine. How many ECT sessions did you do?
I say faulty brain wiring too. I shouldn't be this depressed. My sister 2 years younger in the same genetic situation as me has no depression and living her best life. I did 18 ECT rounds. It did not help and caused memory issues around the time of the treatments
 
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divinemistress36

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Jan 1, 2024
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I say faulty brain wiring too. I shouldn't be this depressed. My sister 2 years younger in the same genetic situation as me has no depression and living her best life. I did 18 ECT rounds. It did not help and caused memory issues around the time of the treatments
I did 19 and I lost so much memory to
 
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