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Cyc

Cyc

It's my fight.
Jan 22, 2026
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Just wondering, would I still have a decent chance of dying if I had no benzos and just had SN and meto? Or are benzos essential

Also are there any alternatives to benzos I could use? Would dipenhydramine work?
 
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Macedonian1987

Just a sad guy from Macedonia.
Oct 22, 2025
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Benzos are not essential for the SN protocol, but benzos will make the whole process much more peaceful. With benzos you will not be so afraid and agitated, compared to without. I will include benzos for my exit. Since I'm a benzo-naive person I will take just 1mg of xanax to calm me down before I drink my SN.
 
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raybd

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Dec 4, 2019
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Just wondering, would I still have a decent chance of dying if I had no benzos and just had SN and meto? Or are benzos essential

Also are there any alternatives to benzos I could use? Would dipenhydramine work?
Someone asked this last week. Diphenhydramine is a muscle relaxant. It will have an overall sleep-inducing effect. Not the same as benzos. But, a quick alternative if if you can only get that.
And yes, to confirm what the last response said, nothing except SN, meto and fasting is essential. All the other things only make the procedure calmer.
 
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Dec 23, 2024
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Someone asked this last week. Diphenhydramine is a muscle relaxant. It will have an overall sleep-inducing effect. Not the same as benzos. But, a quick alternative if if you can only get that.
And yes, to confirm what the last response said, nothing except SN, meto and fasting is essential. All the other things only make the procedure calmer.
meto and fasting aren't essential
 
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Johnny99

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The question is: benzos before or after taking SN? How fast will crushed oxazepam kick in?
 
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DeathSweetDeath

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The question is: benzos before or after taking SN? How fast will crushed oxazepam kick in?
Before, so it has time to start working, but also to help you actually take the sn in the first place. Idk exactly how fast though.
 
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Kayla

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Dec 23, 2024
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when sn fails most people throw up... so essential in that sense.
in terms of the chemical process, that is another thing.
still not essential. You can throw up loads and still die.
 
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Cyc

It's my fight.
Jan 22, 2026
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Benzos are not essential for the SN protocol, but benzos will make the whole process much more peaceful. With benzos you will not be so afraid and agitated, compared to without. I will include benzos for my exit. Since I'm a benzo-naive person I will take just 1mg of xanax to calm me down before I drink my SN.
Ohh okay thank you :) i hope you find peace
Someone asked this last week. Diphenhydramine is a muscle relaxant. It will have an overall sleep-inducing effect. Not the same as benzos. But, a quick alternative if if you can only get that.
And yes, to confirm what the last response said, nothing except SN, meto and fasting is essential. All the other things only make the procedure calmer.
Okay thank you I think I'll use dph then cuz I'm having trouble find benzos
 
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raybd

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Dec 4, 2019
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still not essential. You can throw up loads and still die.
not useful information. you cannot generalize like that. each case varies. what's the news in that?
note that PPEH (or Stan's on this site) and such only give guidelines for the average case. Not every single case.
 
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Kayla

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Dec 23, 2024
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not useful information. you cannot generalize like that. each case varies. what's the news in that?
note that PPEH (or Stan's on this site) and such only give guidelines for the average case. Not every single case.
If you take 25g without AE and throw up, you most likely will still die. If you take 7g and throw up, you can still die. AE isn't essential.
 
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raybd

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Dec 4, 2019
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If you take 25g without AE and throw up, you most likely will still die. If you take 7g and throw up, you can still die. AE isn't essential.
"Average case" "Average case" "Average case".
Response to AEs is subjective.
PPEH and such only document what works in general.
People have to tailor things to their case if they aren't at the middle of the bell curve, so to speak.
 
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