Daisy88_99
Never Enough
- Apr 22, 2026
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WARNING: Weed is very unpredictable and varies person to person. This resource is only meant for people who have experience with weed and has a positive effect on them, even if THC affects you well, nothing beats the proper SN protocol stated in the most recent edition of the PPH. This post is solely based on my research and experience with THC.
* This only applies to smoking weed NOT edibles or any weed you have to eat/drink because those are too unpredictable
INTRO:
I made a post in the past about how MAYBE weed can be used as a replacement if you can't get your hands on benzos and meto. Getting benzos and sometimes even meto is pretty hard in NA as they are both prescription only. However, after finding out that weed slows down gastric emptying (and does not only slow down digestion after the stomach) and obv can cause more paranoia and anxiety, I chose to forgo this idea. Nevertheless, I just couldn't shake the feeling that maybe it can be used if you respond well to it and don't over do it during the attempt. Today, I did more in depth research and found out that it's true that THC slows down gastric emptying but mostly for solid foods and only mildly slows it down for liquids. This and other evidence like different types of *strains do different things made me change my mind and I WILL be using weed as my sedative and anti-emetic, and combine it with OTC Dimenhydrinate as a primary anti-emetic.
Reasons NOT to use Weed as Your Replacement:
- You have never smoked weed before. You must have experience with it to see how it'll effect you.
- Weed affects you very negatively or commonly unpredictably
- Weed makes you paranoid, anxious, nauseated, etc and you think that weed is going to do this during the attempt
- You only have access to edibles or THC drinks
Reasons to use Weed as Your Replacement:
- You have experience with weed and its effects (preferably you have a high tolerance but if you are taking a t-break like I am, it could still work for you and that's not stopping me from trying at least.)
- You have access to a weed pen or regular weed(flower)
- You have predictable and good experiences with THC (eg. good high/euphoria, sedation, lower anxiety, lower nausea, combined with mild/no paranoia and other common side effects)
- You truly believe weed can enhance your experience and make your attempt with SN "peaceful" (mindset is very important with weed)
Percentages and Types of Weed:
- Use lower percentages if you have a very low tolerance
- With higher percentages you may feel more high/euphoric but the higher it is, the more chance you have of side effects like paranoia and slower gastric emptying
- Percentages differ between pens and flower with pens being more concentrated so they have a higher %, do your research
- There are 3 types of weed THC, CBN, and CBD
- THC is what gives you the high | CBN is just a less strong version of THC | CBD is mainly just for the mild body affects and anxiety and will NOT get you high
- I am gonna use THC cuz that's what I am most familiar with, use CBN if THC is too strong for you, CBD can be used by anybody to lower anxiety but it's anti-anxiety effects are still being studied. Studies show it can help with anxiety long term and has mild effects short term, and it's most used for medical weed with people that have anxiety disorders.
What Strain to Use (VERY IMPORTANT):
- You MUST use the INDICA strain or maybe hybrid
- Here's a brief overview of the 3 main strains of weed
Sativa: Known for uplifting, energizing, and cerebral (head) highs. (we do NOT want this)
Indica: Known for deep body relaxation, stress reduction, and sedation. (we want this) Indica also reduces nausea
Hybrid: A blend of both indica and sativa, offering a balanced, versatile experience. (maybe if you want a big brain high too)
This article gives more information but I believe this is only for flower so please do your own research for dab pens or disposable pens as there is a lot of information online (PS pens are easier to hide cuz they barely smell if you don't want other people people to know you do weed): https://www.leafly.com/news/cannabis-101/sativa-indica-and-hybrid-differences-between-cannabis-types
*All strains of weed slow down gastric emptying but this is mainly for solid foods and they only mildly slow down gastric emptying for liquids especially if you fast but again, this varies person to person. However, in my personal opinion, the slower gastric emptying won't matter if you are high and only experiencing the positive effects of weed. In fact, the combination of SN, Dimenhydrinate, and indica weed will produce very strong sedation and the time it takes to lose consciousness might be pretty quick. The protocol below is what PPH suggests where a FULL card of benzos mixed with water is used. Obviously weed will not provide as smooth and "peaceful" experience of taking that much benzos, but it has the potential to be better than OTC sedatives which do almost nothing when the SN is ingested.
*Weed has the potential to make your experience with SN even WORSE and can act as mild psychotic and amplify symptoms like stomach, throat, and chest pain, racing heart, paranoia/anxiety, etc. Your mindset going in is VERY important to how weed effects you, and it tents to amplify symptoms regardless of good or bad. So if you go into it relaxed and stress free, it could amplify those symptoms too. It's vital to know weed is unpredictable and can effect people differently depending on various factors. The general pattern is, the more you take and the higher percent, the more unpredictable the symptoms become and the side effects can compound fast. Taking weed especially an excess amount is a gamble for any CTB attempts, and should be done under caution and at your own risk.
Modified SN Protocol with Weed + Notes:
For this, I'll be using the 2025 PPeH original protocol and change the parts I see fit. I WARN you, this is my personal protocol and please be advised of the warning above.
Original Protocol:
• Fast (clear fluids only) for several hours
• Take 30mg (3x10 mg) tablets of metoclopramide
• (Optional) +-/ 400mg crushed propranolol in water
• Wait 40 minutes
• During the wait time, dissolve 25gm of sodium nitrite in 50 - 100 ml of plain water (35gm if body weight over 100Kg)
• Crush 20 x 30mg tablets (a full card of oxazepam) with
mortar & pestle
• Mix crushed tablets with enough water until a drinkable
solution is created
• Drink sodium nitrite in water
• Drink oxazepam (+/- propranolol) in water
• Lay back (3 min dizzy, 5 mins very drowsy, responsive, 12 mins unconscious, 15 mins deep sleep/ un-rousable, 25 mins increasing cyanosis, 30 mins irregular shallow breathing, 40 mins death)
*DO NOT get high before testing or making the SN solutions because weed makes fine or gross motor skill impaired almost instantly when smoked
Modified Protocol:
- Fast (clear fluids only) for several hours
- Take OTC 100-200mg(depending on how it affects you) of Dimenhydrinate preferably chewable(it releases faster) Optional: take a SMALL pen rip or toke if you are feeling nervous
- Wait 40-60 mins
- During the wait time, dissolve 25gm of sodium nitrite in 50 - 100 ml of plain water (35gm if body weight over 100Kg)
- After you are done making the solutions, you may take as many rips or tokes of your weed as you want but make sure you don't take too much that you"green out"
- By this time your anti-emetic and effects of weed must be reaching their peak
- Drink sodium nitrite in water
- That's it, now access the situation and if you feel nauseated or experience discomfort make sure it's not your mindset
- Keep taking hits if you are SURE you need more weed (*warning, this can get tricky fast and you might not know if you had enough weed so be safe and stop taking weed if you even have a lil suspicion you had too much)
- Lay back after you had enough
(I can't give timeline of events cuz that would just be guessing on my part, ig I'll know for myself when I do it)
Conclusion:
In conclusion, the use of weed in a SN protocol is highly speculative and needs to be studied more. I am sure I am not the only one doing weed during the SN protocol and if you guys know any cases, please let me know by replying. It's hard to say what the experience will be like due to the unpredictability of weed. In general, the mindset is everything and weed just amplifies the users current state most of the time. Weed should ONLY be smoked because that's the most predictable way to take it. The choice of strain is very important as indica should provide the best experience with sativa having a higher chance of a worse experience.
References:
1. https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/pph-january-2025.194954/
2. https://www.leafly.com/news/cannabis-101/sativa-indica-and-hybrid-differences-between-cannabis-types
3. https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/articles/4392-marijuana-cannabis
4. https://deltamunchies.com/blogs/informative/vape-pen-vs-flower-high-which-is-better? -Flower vs Pens explained
5. https://nida.nih.gov/research-topics/parents-educators/mind-matter-series/cannabis-marijuana
6. https://www.ccsa.ca/sites/default/f...ing-Ingesting-Risks-Infographic-2019-en_1.pdf -Inhaling vs Ingesting
* This only applies to smoking weed NOT edibles or any weed you have to eat/drink because those are too unpredictable
INTRO:
I made a post in the past about how MAYBE weed can be used as a replacement if you can't get your hands on benzos and meto. Getting benzos and sometimes even meto is pretty hard in NA as they are both prescription only. However, after finding out that weed slows down gastric emptying (and does not only slow down digestion after the stomach) and obv can cause more paranoia and anxiety, I chose to forgo this idea. Nevertheless, I just couldn't shake the feeling that maybe it can be used if you respond well to it and don't over do it during the attempt. Today, I did more in depth research and found out that it's true that THC slows down gastric emptying but mostly for solid foods and only mildly slows it down for liquids. This and other evidence like different types of *strains do different things made me change my mind and I WILL be using weed as my sedative and anti-emetic, and combine it with OTC Dimenhydrinate as a primary anti-emetic.
Reasons NOT to use Weed as Your Replacement:
- You have never smoked weed before. You must have experience with it to see how it'll effect you.
- Weed affects you very negatively or commonly unpredictably
- Weed makes you paranoid, anxious, nauseated, etc and you think that weed is going to do this during the attempt
- You only have access to edibles or THC drinks
Reasons to use Weed as Your Replacement:
- You have experience with weed and its effects (preferably you have a high tolerance but if you are taking a t-break like I am, it could still work for you and that's not stopping me from trying at least.)
- You have access to a weed pen or regular weed(flower)
- You have predictable and good experiences with THC (eg. good high/euphoria, sedation, lower anxiety, lower nausea, combined with mild/no paranoia and other common side effects)
- You truly believe weed can enhance your experience and make your attempt with SN "peaceful" (mindset is very important with weed)
Percentages and Types of Weed:
- Use lower percentages if you have a very low tolerance
- With higher percentages you may feel more high/euphoric but the higher it is, the more chance you have of side effects like paranoia and slower gastric emptying
- Percentages differ between pens and flower with pens being more concentrated so they have a higher %, do your research
- There are 3 types of weed THC, CBN, and CBD
- THC is what gives you the high | CBN is just a less strong version of THC | CBD is mainly just for the mild body affects and anxiety and will NOT get you high
- I am gonna use THC cuz that's what I am most familiar with, use CBN if THC is too strong for you, CBD can be used by anybody to lower anxiety but it's anti-anxiety effects are still being studied. Studies show it can help with anxiety long term and has mild effects short term, and it's most used for medical weed with people that have anxiety disorders.
What Strain to Use (VERY IMPORTANT):
- You MUST use the INDICA strain or maybe hybrid
- Here's a brief overview of the 3 main strains of weed
Sativa: Known for uplifting, energizing, and cerebral (head) highs. (we do NOT want this)
Indica: Known for deep body relaxation, stress reduction, and sedation. (we want this) Indica also reduces nausea
Hybrid: A blend of both indica and sativa, offering a balanced, versatile experience. (maybe if you want a big brain high too)
This article gives more information but I believe this is only for flower so please do your own research for dab pens or disposable pens as there is a lot of information online (PS pens are easier to hide cuz they barely smell if you don't want other people people to know you do weed): https://www.leafly.com/news/cannabis-101/sativa-indica-and-hybrid-differences-between-cannabis-types
*All strains of weed slow down gastric emptying but this is mainly for solid foods and they only mildly slow down gastric emptying for liquids especially if you fast but again, this varies person to person. However, in my personal opinion, the slower gastric emptying won't matter if you are high and only experiencing the positive effects of weed. In fact, the combination of SN, Dimenhydrinate, and indica weed will produce very strong sedation and the time it takes to lose consciousness might be pretty quick. The protocol below is what PPH suggests where a FULL card of benzos mixed with water is used. Obviously weed will not provide as smooth and "peaceful" experience of taking that much benzos, but it has the potential to be better than OTC sedatives which do almost nothing when the SN is ingested.
*Weed has the potential to make your experience with SN even WORSE and can act as mild psychotic and amplify symptoms like stomach, throat, and chest pain, racing heart, paranoia/anxiety, etc. Your mindset going in is VERY important to how weed effects you, and it tents to amplify symptoms regardless of good or bad. So if you go into it relaxed and stress free, it could amplify those symptoms too. It's vital to know weed is unpredictable and can effect people differently depending on various factors. The general pattern is, the more you take and the higher percent, the more unpredictable the symptoms become and the side effects can compound fast. Taking weed especially an excess amount is a gamble for any CTB attempts, and should be done under caution and at your own risk.
Modified SN Protocol with Weed + Notes:
For this, I'll be using the 2025 PPeH original protocol and change the parts I see fit. I WARN you, this is my personal protocol and please be advised of the warning above.
Original Protocol:
• Fast (clear fluids only) for several hours
• Take 30mg (3x10 mg) tablets of metoclopramide
• (Optional) +-/ 400mg crushed propranolol in water
• Wait 40 minutes
• During the wait time, dissolve 25gm of sodium nitrite in 50 - 100 ml of plain water (35gm if body weight over 100Kg)
• Crush 20 x 30mg tablets (a full card of oxazepam) with
mortar & pestle
• Mix crushed tablets with enough water until a drinkable
solution is created
• Drink sodium nitrite in water
• Drink oxazepam (+/- propranolol) in water
• Lay back (3 min dizzy, 5 mins very drowsy, responsive, 12 mins unconscious, 15 mins deep sleep/ un-rousable, 25 mins increasing cyanosis, 30 mins irregular shallow breathing, 40 mins death)
*DO NOT get high before testing or making the SN solutions because weed makes fine or gross motor skill impaired almost instantly when smoked
Modified Protocol:
- Fast (clear fluids only) for several hours
- Take OTC 100-200mg(depending on how it affects you) of Dimenhydrinate preferably chewable(it releases faster) Optional: take a SMALL pen rip or toke if you are feeling nervous
- Wait 40-60 mins
- During the wait time, dissolve 25gm of sodium nitrite in 50 - 100 ml of plain water (35gm if body weight over 100Kg)
- After you are done making the solutions, you may take as many rips or tokes of your weed as you want but make sure you don't take too much that you"green out"
- By this time your anti-emetic and effects of weed must be reaching their peak
- Drink sodium nitrite in water
- That's it, now access the situation and if you feel nauseated or experience discomfort make sure it's not your mindset
- Keep taking hits if you are SURE you need more weed (*warning, this can get tricky fast and you might not know if you had enough weed so be safe and stop taking weed if you even have a lil suspicion you had too much)
- Lay back after you had enough
(I can't give timeline of events cuz that would just be guessing on my part, ig I'll know for myself when I do it)
Conclusion:
In conclusion, the use of weed in a SN protocol is highly speculative and needs to be studied more. I am sure I am not the only one doing weed during the SN protocol and if you guys know any cases, please let me know by replying. It's hard to say what the experience will be like due to the unpredictability of weed. In general, the mindset is everything and weed just amplifies the users current state most of the time. Weed should ONLY be smoked because that's the most predictable way to take it. The choice of strain is very important as indica should provide the best experience with sativa having a higher chance of a worse experience.
References:
1. https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/pph-january-2025.194954/
2. https://www.leafly.com/news/cannabis-101/sativa-indica-and-hybrid-differences-between-cannabis-types
3. https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/articles/4392-marijuana-cannabis
4. https://deltamunchies.com/blogs/informative/vape-pen-vs-flower-high-which-is-better? -Flower vs Pens explained
5. https://nida.nih.gov/research-topics/parents-educators/mind-matter-series/cannabis-marijuana
6. https://www.ccsa.ca/sites/default/f...ing-Ingesting-Risks-Infographic-2019-en_1.pdf -Inhaling vs Ingesting
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