Discussion Seeking Opinions: SN vs. Switzerland for Voluntary Assisted Death

[ClippedWings]

Dear Community,

I'm currently deciding between SN and voluntary assisted death in Switzerland. My SN protocol is fully procured and my voluntary assisted death in Switzerland is fully approved.

I'm looking for fresh perspective on this decision.

Switzerland offers certainty with the trade-off of being watched and surrounded by a staff of three strangers in my final moment. I would much prefer to go alone, but they continue to insist that I bring at least one close relative. I'd prefer to bring no family, but this may be unavoidable if this method is chosen.

SN offers privacy and portability but no certainty. Here I can die alone, where I want, when I want, and not stared at by strangers waiting for me to die. BUT, it isn't guaranteed to work.

Thoughts?

 

[Ixtab69]

Dear Community,

I'm currently deciding between SN and voluntary assisted death in Switzerland. My SN protocol is fully procured and my voluntary assisted death in Switzerland is fully approved.

I'm looking for fresh perspective on this decision.

Switzerland offers certainty with the trade-off of being watched and surrounded by a staff of three strangers in my final moment. I would much prefer to go alone, but they continue to insist that I bring at least one close relative. I'd prefer to bring no family, but this may be unavoidable if this method is chosen.

SN offers privacy and portability but no certainty. Here I can die alone, where I want, when I want, and not stared at by strangers waiting for me to die. BUT, it isn't guaranteed to work.

Thoughts?

Choosing a method is something highly individual where a myriad of personal factors,some rather conscious ones as well as subconscious ones,finally play out.These oftentimes hidden factors are crucial when we choose a method-in other words:a lot depends on the way we are psychologically wired.Some people prefer taking certain risks whereas others insist on security at any price-since I do not know you at all I simply cannot judge which method or surrounding suits you best.My reply might not be the most helpful one,but at least it is honest without any false pretensions

 

[Forever Sleep]

Do you have a family member or friend who is willing to go with you and supports your decision?

I can only really say which I would go for. I would also ideally prefer to go alone but for me, the reasurance that the method will work and there are presumably things they can do if it doesn't would make assisted suicide more appealing to me. Plus, I imagine it would be the most peaceful option.

The cost would be annoying but then, it would also spare making a mess of my property and any stigma surrounding a suicide taking place there.

Would you have to travel far? That would be another consideration of course if you are suffering with ill health.

 

[davidtorez]

If it were ME , I'd choose the guaranteed method and go with the Swiss option. But I am me and you are you. So ultimately it's your choice

 

[deadbidaylight]

I agree with @davidtorez that we can only really offer our opinion of what WE would choose if we were in your situation. Ending our lives is a highly personal decision and I hope that our opinions wouldn't sway your choice in either direction.

There are definitely pros and cons to both methods. I imagine the assisted method would be certain and much more peaceful. But if your privacy means more to you, then it obviously wouldn't be the proper choice for you. Only you will be able to decide which route you want to go.

I'm glad that you have choices. Way your pros and cons and take your time to come to the right decision for YOU. It will be your final moments on earth, make sure it's a choice that you are fully at peace with.

 

[ClippedWings]

Do you have a family member or friend who is willing to go with you and supports your decision?

Yes I do.

Choosing a method is something highly individual where a myriad of personal factors,some rather conscious ones as well as subconscious ones,finally play out.These oftentimes hidden factors are crucial when we choose a method-in other words:a lot depends on the way we are psychologically wired.Some people prefer taking certain risks whereas others insist on security at any price-since I do not know you at all I simply cannot judge which method or surrounding suits you best.My reply might not be the most helpful one,but at least it is honest without any false pretensions

No offense, but this is obvious.

make sure it's a choice that you are fully at peace with.

Thanks, but there will be compromises no matter what. Full peace doesn't seem attainable.

 

[bananaolympus]

If i were you i choose switzerland for the guaranteed death, sn is highly lethal but is doesn't even have a 90% death rate

 

[Raven2]

Personally I would go with assisted death, its guaranteed whereas sn has its risks.

 

[StarryEyed]

I'm in the same boat, in that I've decided I'm going to CTB, and I'm debating assisted or doing it myself. Congratulations on getting approval and having your own method lined up too. That takes a lot of strength and planning - at the very least.

I'll tell you my pros and cons - some of which other members have discussed. Perhaps that will help you. Or perhaps you've already decided? It might help me to write it all out. Or maybe someone else?

PROS OF SUICIDE ALONE:
-I get to pick the environment in which to die as well as the time.
-I get to pick how I want to die.
-I get to pick whether or not I want support and who I want to support me.
-All of this boils down to me being in control of the situation.

CONS OF SUICIDE ALONE:
-If things go wrong, this could lead to serious health problems that I have to live with and at the very least I would be subjected to severe judgement and scrutiny by others for having tried to off myself. I definitely don't need more health problems as I already have enough disabilities going on.
-Someone has to find my body, which would be dreadful for them. I couldn't do that to my worst enemy. Well, maybe my worst enemy, but only my worst enemy.
-I would have to plan everything in secret because if someone finds out that is opposed to me doing it, they can report me and I would end up in the looney bin, and almost certainly put on forced psych meds that make me sooooooo sick. So very sick! So I would have to be very careful in who I tell and probably not have sufficient support to plan everything properly.
-I just don't have the guts to do it myself. It's just terrifying to think about doing it myself.
-So the pros of doing suicide myself are for the sake of having control, but in the end really I think that I actually will have very little control and too many things can go wrong.

CONS OF ASSISTED SUICIDE:
-I have to rely on other people, which I don't like to do because they always let me down, but they would be more reliable at killing me than I would be. So it makes sense to rely on them. Funny that it would only be in my death that I would be comfortable in relying on others. Oh the irony.
-It seems more complicated to set up and to do than if I were doing it myself. But the trade-off of it being complicated is that it gets the job done since it's a sure-fire way. Plus I am good at planning, so that doesn't really count.
-It is more costly for assisted suicide if I cannot get it done in my country where assisted suicide is legal and free. But I might be able to get the funds together.

PROS OF ASSISTED SUICIDE:
-Painless.
-I won't feel guilty for doing it because the laws of society have deemed it okay.
-Effective.
-The planning would be hard and complicated because I would want to tell friends and family, and because I have to make my case for approval, but I think I am worth the effort of dying in a kind and gentle manner.

Well, that really helped me to write it out. I know what I want now. I hope that helps someone else.

 

[imOK]

Also Switzerland. Quite frankly, SN does not sound pleasant to me, at all. YMMV.

 

[cait_sith]

Dear Community,

I'm currently deciding between SN and voluntary assisted death in Switzerland. My SN protocol is fully procured and my voluntary assisted death in Switzerland is fully approved.

I'm looking for fresh perspective on this decision.

Switzerland offers certainty with the trade-off of being watched and surrounded by a staff of three strangers in my final moment. I would much prefer to go alone, but they continue to insist that I bring at least one close relative. I'd prefer to bring no family, but this may be unavoidable if this method is chosen.

SN offers privacy and portability but no certainty. Here I can die alone, where I want, when I want, and not stared at by strangers waiting for me to die. BUT, it isn't guaranteed to work.

Thoughts?

Can I ask, how did you get your assisted death in the Switzerland approved?