SARCO Nitrogen Pod will be used for the first time this month

[outrider567]

I don't have the link to the article but its in the DailyMailAustralia today
The person using it has not been identified--Its been called the 'TESLA of Euthanasia'--It takes 30 seconds for the Oxygen level to drop from 21% to just 1%, enabling a 'peaceful pain-free death' as Dr Nitchke states

 

[Kapsyl]

-It takes 30 seconds for the Oxygen level to drop from 21% to just 1%, enabling a 'peaceful pain-free death' as Dr Nitchke states

That sounds very fast, to exchange all that existing air to nitrogen in just 30 seconds is quite the feat. The average coffin is around 800-1000 liters of displacement, that would mean the "Tesla pod" would need to both pump and suck air/nitrogen at around 30 liters a second. Which Isn't unreasonable with airpumps and numerous high flow nitrogen valves.

I believe the old one worked solely on replacing the air with nitrogen which extended the procedure quite a lot, like 10-15 min before unconsciousness. This is significantly faster but definitely noisier hearing all that air exchange taking place.

What would you choose?

1. Fast air exchange with unconsciousness taking place within a minute or two

2. Slower pace allowing you to still communicate and have some final thoughts, physical discomfort may appear with this method such as dizziness and headache.

 

[outrider567]

That sounds very fast, to exchange all that existing air to nitrogen in just 30 seconds is quite the feat. The average coffin is around 800-1000 liters of displacement, that would mean the "Tesla pod" would need to both pump and suck air/nitrogen at around 30 liters a second. Which Isn't unreasonable with airpumps and numerous high flow nitrogen valves.

I believe the old one worked solely on replacing the air with nitrogen which extended the procedure quite a lot, like 10-15 min before unconsciousness. This is significantly faster but definitely noisier hearing all that air exchange taking place.

What would you choose?

1. Fast air exchange with unconsciousness taking place within a minute or two

2. Slower pace allowing you to still communicate and have some final thoughts, physical discomfort may appear with this method such as dizziness and headache.

Number 1
The US should have at least one of these in every state

 

[Not a Cylon]

This pod is fascinating to me.

 

[jonward55]

'Death capsule' could be used for assisted suicides 'this month'

The Sarco, short for sarcophagus, would enable the euthanasia patient inside it to press a button and die 'within seconds', according to the company behind it, Exit Switzerland.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Tesha]

That sounds very fast, to exchange all that existing air to nitrogen in just 30 seconds is quite the feat. The average coffin is around 800-1000 liters of displacement, that would mean the "Tesla pod" would need to both pump and suck air/nitrogen at around 30 liters a second. Which Isn't unreasonable with airpumps and numerous high flow nitrogen valves.

They might have fitted one way pressure relief valves. That would remove the need for mechanical extraction, but could obviously be a bit risky if any extra N2 was displaced to atmosphere.

 

[Kapsyl]

They might have fitted one way pressure relief valves. That would remove the need for mechanical extraction, but could obviously be a bit risky if any extra N2 was displaced to atmosphere.

I believe the first version used this design, which is why it took 10-15 min to exchange all that air.

The old one was incredible expensive since it was one time use only, wonder how much expensive the new design is.

 

[Not A Fan]

Number 1
The US should have at least one of these in every state

But then people wouldn't have to blow their brains out anymore and jump off buildings. That cannot be allowed to change.

I believe the first version used this design, which is why it took 10-15 min to exchange all that air.

The old one was incredible expensive since it was one time use only, wonder how much expensive the new design is.

Recently read it costs around $30,000 euros to print depending on the types of plastic used. Also read that it "will never be sold." Rather, the 3d print plans and files are made available to the Exit Intl's subscribers. No one under 50 is allowed to subscribe but I bet someone would share the plans eventually.

It was thought the original design could double as a "coffin" but they quickly realized multiple-use was much more economically and environmentally friendly and I think that's the use-case they are currently pursuing.

 

[Tesha]

Sometimes it pays to be old…

 

[thewalkingdread]

All one needs is a simple bag.

This pod is a nice idea, but it's clearly also a marketing stunt aimed at rich people. As with anything else in life, it's a futile convenience for a high price.

 

[_AllCatsAreGrey_]

All one needs is a simple bag.

This pod is a nice idea, but it's clearly also a marketing stunt aimed at rich people. As with anything else in life, it's a futile convenience for a high price.

I disagree. I don't see it as a marketing stunt at all. Nitschke has explained that the inspiration for the project was to accommodate those that have limited physical capacity. If I remember correctly, he talks on this here. Not everyone has the ability to carry out the exit bag.

 

[limeoctave]

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Sometimes it pays to be old…

Interesting, how is Starlink related to Sarco? Does it need the Internet to work? or just to inform someone that the person is ctb'ed

 

[Not A Fan]

All one needs is a simple bag.

This pod is a nice idea, but it's clearly also a marketing stunt aimed at rich people. As with anything else in life, it's a futile convenience for a high price.

If it's multiple use, then the cost per use would be trivial.

 

[JealousOfTheElderly]

Sometimes it pays to be old…

And now I am really jealous of the elderly!

 

[_AllCatsAreGrey_]

And now I am really jealous of the elderly!

I've heard that they intend to make the plans for the Sarco open source. I imagine it won't take long for an Exit member to leak them.

 

[JealousOfTheElderly]

I've heard that they intend to make the plans for the Sarco open source. I imagine it won't take long for an Exit member to leak them.

That is excellent news!

 

[MBG]

I've heard that they intend to make the plans for the Sarco open source. I imagine it won't take long for an Exit member to leak them.

So? You plan on 3D printing and building your own? You have the skills and money ($15,000 to $20,000 just for printing) to do that?

 

[_AllCatsAreGrey_]

So? You plan on 3D printing and building your own? You have the skills and money ($15,000 to $20,000 just for printing) to do that?

No. I never said I planned on that or had the skills/funds. Although some people do. I could easily imagine a group of people accomplishing that together.

Unsure why this is directed at me in a personal way. I'm just interested in information being shared. *shrugs*

 

[JealousOfTheElderly]

So? You plan on 3D printing and building your own? You have the skills and money ($15,000 to $20,000 just for printing) to do that?

Maybe not them. But someone else certainly does and will. So what?

 

[MBG]

Maybe not them. But someone else certainly does and will. So what?

"So what" exactly.

Unless you have the time, money and skill to reproduce your own Sarco, "so what" if Exit Int releases or doesn't release the plans? (There's also the electronics, tubing, maybe even pumping involved as well.)

I'll bow out of this pointless discussion now. My time alive is too valuable to waste.

 

[_AllCatsAreGrey_]

I respect your right to bow out of the conversation. I don't see the conversation as being pointless. I think the project is interesting and I hope that people outside of Exit can get access to the plans so they can develop them.

I understand being sceptical and critical of Nitschke's work, but I don't understand completely writing it off. The SN standard method comes from his work. Naturally, others have developed it further. Access to more datasets are helpful.

Yes, it's completely unsure if the plans will be leaked. It's still an interesting conversation to me. I don't know if anyone else developing such projects.

 

[Qimaster]

I don't have the link to the article but its in the DailyMailAustralia today
The person using it has not been identified--Its been called the 'TESLA of Euthanasia'--It takes 30 seconds for the Oxygen level to drop from 21% to just 1%, enabling a 'peaceful pain-free death' as Dr Nitchke states

How does one apply for using the Sarco?

 

[_AllCatsAreGrey_]

How does one apply for using the Sarco?

As I understand, plans for it will be available to Exit members. They have the age of 50 and over as a requirement, but they make exceptions for some younger people depending on their circumstances. Admittedly this is rare. They have an annual membership fee.

I'm planning to be come a member, if I make it to 50. Just a few more years for me.

 

[justanotherdaynow]

As I understand, plans for it will be available to Exit members. They have the age of 50 and over as a requirement, but they make exceptions for some younger people depending on their circumstances. Admittedly this is rare. They have an annual membership fee.

I'm planning to be come a member, if I make it to 50. Just a few more years for me.

I thought it was banned already. Is this still a potential thing?

 

[outrider567]

How does one apply for using the Sarco?

No idea, Dr Nitchke never answered my posts

 

[_AllCatsAreGrey_]

I thought it was banned already. Is this still a potential thing

It seems like it's still under development. This is the most recent news (updated on Sun) from Exit:

The Sarco Project Timeline - Exit International

Share this ContentThe Evolution of a New Idea Sarco Project began back in 2012 when a lawyer in the UK asked Exit International Founder, Dr Philip Nitschke, if he could design a machine that could be used by Tony Nicklinson who was suffering from locked-in syndrome. Philip’s first machine ‘the...

www.exitinternational.net

 

[justanotherdaynow]

It seems like it's still under development. This is the most recent news (updated on Sun) from Exit:

The Sarco Project Timeline - Exit International

Share this ContentThe Evolution of a New Idea Sarco Project began back in 2012 when a lawyer in the UK asked Exit International Founder, Dr Philip Nitschke, if he could design a machine that could be used by Tony Nicklinson who was suffering from locked-in syndrome. Philip’s first machine ‘the...

www.exitinternational.net

Would this only be accessible to people approved by Dignitas and Pegasos (elderly or terminally ill)? Or do they not know at this point?

 

[_AllCatsAreGrey_]

Would this only be accessible to people approved by Dignitas and Pegasos (elderly or terminally ill)? Or do they not know at this point?

It seems so. I see in the link the description of a collaboration between Exit and a group called Last Resort in Switzerland. This surely is to meet the legal requirements. It seems there is currently strict systems of approval that would involve various documentation. Imo not an ideal situation, but it's what's required to do this legally.

 

[justanotherdaynow]

It seems so. I see in the link the description of a collaboration between Exit and a group called Last Resort in Switzerland. This surely is to meet the legal requirements. It seems there is currently strict systems of approval that would involve various documentation. Imo not an ideal situation, but it's what's required to do this legally.

Darn, one can only dream I guess…