Plausible accidentality

[Railcar$Coyness3]

I haven't seen much discussion of this topic here or anywhere else. I think it's my right to end my life if I have truly weighed all the possible futures and determined that the expected value of suffering outweighs the expected value of meaning. At the same time, I know that my death would be hard on my immediate family. I only see them like once or twice a year, so the practical impact on their lives would be low, but of course the emotional impact would be huge. I think it would be an order of magnitude even worse if they knew it was intentional. Therefore I feel a sort of ethical obligation to have my suicide be plausibly accidental, to spare them as much of that burden as possible. It seems like almost every method discussed here does not consider this. I do a fair amount of climbing and mountaineering, so the thing that seems most believable would be to go jump somewhere that I would go climb anyways. I just really struggle with the cowardice of actually jumping, and I'm not sure I can bring myself to go against my survival instinct enough to do so. I feel much more capable of drinking something alone and in as peaceful a way as possible. Does anyone have any insight into plausibly accidental methods that are also more passive and peaceful?

 

[Railcar$Coyness3]

I thought this would be an engaging topic, but it appears not. Are most people in just such a hard place that "plausible accidentality" is out of reach to think about, or people genuinely don't care, or is it just so difficult to pull off that it's not worth it?

 

[endboss]

• Single-vehicle "accidents" - Intentionally crashing a car into a stationary object or off the road
• Carbon monoxide poisoning in enclosed spaces/garages - Often appears as accidental exposure
• Drowning - Particularly in natural bodies of water without witnesses
• Falls from heights - Can appear as accidental if there are no witnesses or notes
• Drug overdoses - Especially when mixed with alcohol to appear as misadventure
• Electrocution - Sometimes staged as accidental contact with faulty wiring
• Hypothermia exposure - In cold environments without proper preparation
• Boating "accidents" - Capsizing or disappearing during water activities
• Fire-related deaths - Sometimes staged as cooking or heating accidents
• Choking - Can appear as accidental food-related incidents

 

[Seneca65AD]

Not sure how I missed this topic but if there were a way to be "plausibly accidental" (I love that term!), I would sign up for it in a second. Other than a car accident, I haven't been able to come up with anything "accidental". The accidental method would probably be easier to create than the "random victim of violence" scenario which I have thought about.

At least you have climbing and mountaineering to put you in a situation where death is not totally unexpected, but as stated before, I am not a fan of jumping because I know the instant I let go, I would reget it (admittedly for only a few seconds).

We still need a "John Wick" style organization where we can put a hit on ourselves. Pay in BTC, give a dead-line, and put in some requirements (Accidental? Victim of violence? Natural causes?). Any entrepreneurs out there??

EDIT: Just saw endboss' post. Wow, great ideas - carbon monoxide works if a person were a camper/tenter, etc. That would work for me since I enjoy the outdoors. In the immortal words of Forest Gump's Drill Sergeant, God damn it, <endboss>! You're a god damn genius! ....

 

[endboss]

A hitman would indeed be nice, one you don't see coming. Just a bullet to the back of the head.

 

[Forever Sleep]

I suppose for starters- it would need to be something that was plausible. Quite a few people are shut- ins here. So- for them to suddenly fall off a cliff or bridge would likely look suspicious from the start. It does sound like it would be less suspicious for someone already engaged in dangerous sports/ activities though.

Obviously- there would still be an investigation though- for a suspicious death. Was it equipment failure? Did they take uncharacteristic risks? Do they normally climb alone? Is that usual for them?

Some people do just plan to disappear one day and do it but then- I wonder if that isn't more distressing for families. If there has to be a search for them. If their body can even be found.

I suppose also- I imagine a lot of people would prioritise a method working rather than it looking like an accident. So- I suppose there's a lot of things to juggle really. Choosing something that is lethal enough, whilst not looking too obscure a thing for them to be doing in the first place.

Also- I wonder how much they investigate when it comes to a suspicious death. If they do happen to look at electronic devices- then- there's presumably some trail that may look like the person researched and planned this. And- if they wiped their device- why? Why would they do that? If they planned to do their dangerous activity and come home afterwards.

Personally though- my hope is to hold on for the person my suicide would deeply affect to go first. Beyond them though, the rest of my family/ friends are estranged and distant. It also shouldn't come as a complete shock for some- seeing as they know I've had ideation since childhood and have struggled in life for years. So, I don't entirely mind if people know it was suicide. In truth- a handful maybe even deserve it- seeing as their actions started all this for me. As bitter and cruel as that sounds.

I'm pretty selfish though really. Even if it's at the end, when I can't witness it, I sort of want people to realise what a struggle I found life. Maybe in retrospect, my lack lustre effort in certain situations may end up looking more understandable that way.

I suppose in general too- I don't think suicide should be hidden. It's a clear indicator that lots of people struggle in this world. Even people everyone thinks are pretty ok. Maybe by realising that a lot aren't- people will start looking out for each other more.

 

[idfwlnh]

So there's this note on Lingature Strangulation method that says quote:
"If you want to make your death appear accidental, simply pull down your pants in the attempt or do it naked. It will be seen as a case of autoerotic asphyxiation gone wrong."
I think it would be weird if one to be found in such state though

 

[last-counting-days]

• Single-vehicle "accidents" - Intentionally crashing a car into a stationary object or off the road
• Carbon monoxide poisoning in enclosed spaces/garages - Often appears as accidental exposure
• Drowning - Particularly in natural bodies of water without witnesses
• Falls from heights - Can appear as accidental if there are no witnesses or notes
• Drug overdoses - Especially when mixed with alcohol to appear as misadventure
• Electrocution - Sometimes staged as accidental contact with faulty wiring
• Hypothermia exposure - In cold environments without proper preparation
• Boating "accidents" - Capsizing or disappearing during water activities
• Fire-related deaths - Sometimes staged as cooking or heating accidents
• Choking - Can appear as accidental food-related incidents

For choking, is it possible to stop gag reflex before eating heavy foods without chewing.
Did anyone tried to die in this way,
Pain wise it seems hell, as long as it guarantees absolute death, it's fine

 

[FrustratedMTFtrans]

A hitman would indeed be nice, one you don't see coming. Just a bullet to the back of the head.

I would prefer the excitement of facing him, knowing what he has to do to me, because it's inevitable, as I contracted him. I would beg to be shot lower down in the body then, possibly with the weapon inserted in my body for extra silencing and less externally visible bleeding, so I can be sure of dying looking pretty with my make-up intact. And I want disposal included, but I can facilitate it by laying out plastic sheets on the floor and bed, so it's easy to wrap up my body leaving everything clean. It would be a sign for him that I am ready. I can give him and myself pleasure by letting him stroke my body with his weapon and inserting it into my body before he pulls the trigger, initially on empty chambers if it's a revolver. Unlike with his usual victims, he would be surprised by my obvious willingness to die.

 

[PanaxMan]

I haven't seen much discussion of this topic here or anywhere else. I think it's my right to end my life if I have truly weighed all the possible futures and determined that the expected value of suffering outweighs the expected value of meaning. At the same time, I know that my death would be hard on my immediate family. I only see them like once or twice a year, so the practical impact on their lives would be low, but of course the emotional impact would be huge. I think it would be an order of magnitude even worse if they knew it was intentional. Therefore I feel a sort of ethical obligation to have my suicide be plausibly accidental, to spare them as much of that burden as possible. It seems like almost every method discussed here does not consider this. I do a fair amount of climbing and mountaineering, so the thing that seems most believable would be to go jump somewhere that I would go climb anyways. I just really struggle with the cowardice of actually jumping, and I'm not sure I can bring myself to go against my survival instinct enough to do so. I feel much more capable of drinking something alone and in as peaceful a way as possible. Does anyone have any insight into plausibly accidental methods that are also more passive and peaceful?

Depends if you even have a family who even cares. A car crash can do that easily along with vsed by getting lost in mother nature

 

[dopaminedeath]

We still need a "John Wick" style organization where we can put a hit on ourselves. Pay in BTC, give a dead-line, and put in some requirements (Accidental? Victim of violence? Natural causes?). Any entrepreneurs out there??

this is wild but good idea ey