people who become pro life after suicidality?

[Ah.ow]

did anyone experience or encounter this?

I got confused to meet someone with pro life cliches who seemed expressing pro choice before - or maybe who asked questions to others that needed others to be pro choice.

I have seen people talk about encountering harmful attitudes here, that can have same effects as people who aren't pro choice. but I hadn't heard of someone going from suicidality to then fitting in with pro life?

it seemed a rare surprise for me, i got lost and wondered if i got fooled before about their seeming pro choice

 

[Forever Sleep]

I've seen interviews with people who survived pretty brutal suicide attempts- like jumping from the Golden Gate Bridge that said they regretted their decision the moment they jumped. They seemed more pro-life for themselves after that although, it was hard to judge whether they were for everyone else as well.

There was a former member here who insisted he was serious about suicide when he was young. That he even held a knife towards his chest. He was very vigorous in insisting people only needed to follow his advice to start loving life. He was very pro-life. I definitely think you get people who claim to have come out of terrible period of depression. The whole- if I can do it, so can you.

Someone who smoked once told me that the most intense and annoying anti-smokers they had come across were ex- smokers. I think a percentage of people become a lot more righteous when they have overcome a particular 'demon' themselves.

Maybe they are that vocal with the best of intentions but they tend to assume certain things. In the case of suicidality- that their situations are comparable. That this other person actually can solve all their problems so effectively. In the case of ideation and quitting a destructive habit- they surely assume that the person truly wants to quit. They may not. Even with ideation. Plenty of people don't even want to fight their suicidal ideas or feelings.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

You haven't ever heard of this before? Interesting. I hear and see this very, very often. This is just my two cents but I honestly believe that these people weren't pro choice in the first place, at least not by principle. What's important is the principle that one holds and, in my opinion, a lot of people don't really have the right principle that allows them to be pro choice. Based from what I've seen, a lot of people are suicidal in a way in where once the root cause of their suicidality is fixed, they no longer care about others and their suicidality. In other words, they basically are no different to a pro lifer in terms of their mindset, the only difference is that they are suicidal and that's it

 

[Aergia]

Not all suicidal people are pro-choice. A lot of them perceive their suicidality not as a part of their "true" self or a product of rational thought, but as essentially a sickness or a kind of inner demon that must be fought, even the cost of personal autonomy. For some, this extends to their perception of suicidality in general.

In psychiatry the terms used to describe that kind of distinction are egosyntonic and egodystonic (though experiencing egodystonic suicidality wouldn't necessarily mean someone is pro-life).

 

[foreverlanguish]

I did, for a little while. I still don't know why I did, I guess I felt like suicide was wrong for some reason, as I thought myself as a Christian at the time. So, when this one person on my old discord server said they wanted to kill themselves, I tried getting them to stop. Thankfully these days though I know I'd never do something like that again as I know for a fact I'm pro choice.

 

[sinfonia]

So, when this one person on my old discord server said they wanted to kill themselves, I tried getting them to stop.

Trying to get someone to not kill themselves doesn't make you a "Pro-Lifer" (whatever that means at this point). You're not infringing on anyone's personal autonomy just by talking to them; only calling the cops or trying to get them sectioned would do that.