Story no one will ever understand why you want to die, so be prepared to lie when you tell them your story

[Rogue_Gendarme]

wisdom for the ages: there really is no way to convince or let witness everyone else who isn't you of the suffering you endure and the misery you suffer through that is ultimately the reason for your suicide. it's not irrational, since it is a logical step to disconvince someone of an attempt — out of love, or out of reason.

but the thing is that they won't ever, ever scratch beneath the layers of your skin to reveal the pure but black, boundless ocean of your soul corrupted by misery. they will never understand that suicide is your only escape, your only ticket out of this miserable home we call earth.

if you plan on telling your friends of your story and the reasons behind why you'd ultimately like to take your life, remember to keep up a facade at the end. tell them that the date of your suicide is not near — tell them that they've still got time to disconvince you. be prepared for all that bullshit about how life is worth living, even thought you're the only enlightened soul who knows it's not.

be ready, be strong, be brave. bracing the kiss of the noose is not an easy thing. bracing the kiss of the glass with the nitrite solution is a difficult thing. bracing yourself through severing your own mortality is not an easy thing and is difficult also.

nothing comes easy. but you're a fighter, you are. we're all welled up here in the deepest part of the internet where sorrow marks every thread, every post, every comment, and every face behind that username and mask of a profile. we're all in this together, but we're so far apart — so distant. but in this, we find solace. every one of us who wishes to catch the bus will inevitably find another person here who wants to do the same with the same ticket in hand.

and i think, that's the most comfortable thing ever.

 

[lenhater234]

Shakespeare be copying your wise words mate ts beautiful

 

[Dejected 55]

But why lie? I get why you might lie and not tell someone you are suicidal... that makes sense if you are afraid of being stopped or locked up or something... but if you get to a point where you tell someone you want to die and want to kill yourself... what's the value in lying about why? Either tell the truth or tell them nothing. Lying doesn't seem like it does anything but waste your time.

 

[Rogue_Gendarme]

But why lie? I get why you might lie and not tell someone you are suicidal... that makes sense if you are afraid of being stopped or locked up or something... but if you get to a point where you tell someone you want to die and want to kill yourself... what's the value in lying about why? Either tell the truth or tell them nothing. Lying doesn't seem like it does anything but waste your time.

I'm not saying you should lie about being suicidal or lie about why you are suicidal. That's entirely contrary to the point I'm making. The point I'm making is that you should lie about when you will kill yourself, that they still have time to stop you, and that you're not really that suicidal and that you're just venting your feelings.

Because they'll do their best to prevent you, if you don't lie about those things. You might even end up in grippy socks jail. Some people are persistent about that. Lying helps prevent them from being hurt or feeling distant from you because of your persistence.

At surface glance it seems like lying is pointless when you're going to die anyway and the effort is like wasting time. But there are just some who, when faced with the truth that they can't do anything to stop you from dying will still try. I've learned this the hard way. Friends, family, lovers.

Trying to stop you from wanting to end it all. But it never works and it's just a pain in the ass about continuing on why you're suicidal for this or that reason, but they'll never listen to you. Unless they're someone who understands you and is willing to accept the fact that you'll leave them.

Lying is 100% worth the effort.

 

[Bishop]

But why lie? I get why you might lie and not tell someone you are suicidal... that makes sense if you are afraid of being stopped or locked up or something... but if you get to a point where you tell someone you want to die and want to kill yourself... what's the value in lying about why? Either tell the truth or tell them nothing. Lying doesn't seem like it does anything but waste your time.

Exactly

 

[Rogue_Gendarme]

Exactly

i literally just explained why that's a terrible point but okay

 

[Dejected 55]

I still say it doesn't make sense. Lie about being suicidal. Then they have no reason to try and stop you. Why tell someone you are suicidal and then lie about the details? You've just created more work for yourself. If you are going to lie, tell the easiest lie and say you aren't suicidal.

 

[Rogue_Gendarme]

I still say it doesn't make sense. Lie about being suicidal. Then they have no reason to try and stop you. Why tell someone you are suicidal and then lie about the details? You've just created more work for yourself. If you are going to lie, tell the easiest lie and say you aren't suicidal.

"I'm not saying you should lie about being suicidal or lie about why you are suicidal. That's entirely contrary to the point I'm making. The point I'm making is that you should lie about when you will kill yourself, that they still have time to stop you, and that you're not really that suicidal and that you're just venting your feelings."

Read my first reply

And also it's a breath of fresh air to tell someone why you feel this way and what you would like to do about it. I'm not suggesting everyone should do it, I'm just saying that for the few who would do it to vent out their feelings, this is the way to do it.

If you don't like my advice, then feel free to leave, because it means it isn't for you.

 

[Dejected 55]

"I'm not saying you should lie about being suicidal or lie about why you are suicidal. That's entirely contrary to the point I'm making. The point I'm making is that you should lie about when you will kill yourself, that they still have time to stop you, and that you're not really that suicidal and that you're just venting your feelings."

Read my first reply

And also it's a breath of fresh air to tell someone why you feel this way and what you would like to do about it. I'm not suggesting everyone should do it, I'm just saying that for the few who would do it to vent out their feelings, this is the way to do it.

If you don't like my advice, then feel free to leave, because it means it isn't for you.

And I'm asking why bother creating a situation where you have to lie about when you are killing yourself to avoid being stopped when you could have lied in the beginning and told them you aren't suicidal? By telling someone you are suicidal you're either asking for help or wanting to be stopped or creating a more difficult situation for yourself by letting them know to be watchful over you... whereas if you just lie in the beginning and don't make them suspicious, you've avoided all that.

I don't understand the logic behind letting someone know you are suicidal and then lying about why or when... The much easier lie is to tell them you are fine and not suicidal. That ends the conversation much quicker.

 

[Lamentice]

But why lie? I get why you might lie and not tell someone you are suicidal... that makes sense if you are afraid of being stopped or locked up or something... but if you get to a point where you tell someone you want to die and want to kill yourself... what's the value in lying about why? Either tell the truth or tell them nothing. Lying doesn't seem like it does anything but waste your time.

What's the point in telling the truth either? Then you have to go through all the labor and exhaustion of explaining yourself and being explained at... Really best to just never say anything at all.

 

[Dejected 55]

My point is... choosing to lie is more work than choosing not to engage at all. Or if you must engage, lie in the beginning when the small lie will suffice and you can walk away. If you're willing to be honest about being suicidal, then lying after that makes no sense to me because you already opened the can of worms.

 

[dust-in-the-wind]

I still say it doesn't make sense. Lie about being suicidal. Then they have no reason to try and stop you. Why tell someone you are suicidal and then lie about the details? You've just created more work for yourself. If you are going to lie, tell the easiest lie and say you aren't suicidal.

I've told everyone I'm suicidal so they wont be shocked when it happens.

wisdom for the ages: there really is no way to convince or let witness everyone else who isn't you of the suffering you endure and the misery you suffer through that is ultimately the reason for your suicide. it's not irrational, since it is a logical step to disconvince someone of an attempt — out of love, or out of reason.

but the thing is that they won't ever, ever scratch beneath the layers of your skin to reveal the pure but black, boundless ocean of your soul corrupted by misery. they will never understand that suicide is your only escape, your only ticket out of this miserable home we call earth.

if you plan on telling your friends of your story and the reasons behind why you'd ultimately like to take your life, remember to keep up a facade at the end. tell them that the date of your suicide is not near — tell them that they've still got time to disconvince you. be prepared for all that bullshit about how life is worth living, even thought you're the only enlightened soul who knows it's not.

be ready, be strong, be brave. bracing the kiss of the noose is not an easy thing. bracing the kiss of the glass with the nitrite solution is a difficult thing. bracing yourself through severing your own mortality is not an easy thing and is difficult also.

nothing comes easy. but you're a fighter, you are. we're all welled up here in the deepest part of the internet where sorrow marks every thread, every post, every comment, and every face behind that username and mask of a profile. we're all in this together, but we're so far apart — so distant. but in this, we find solace. every one of us who wishes to catch the bus will inevitably find another person here who wants to do the same with the same ticket in hand.

and i think, that's the most comfortable thing ever.

You are a brilliant writer.

 

[Jx708]

wisdom for the ages: there really is no way to convince or let witness everyone else who isn't you of the suffering you endure and the misery you suffer through that is ultimately the reason for your suicide. it's not irrational, since it is a logical step to disconvince someone of an attempt — out of love, or out of reason.

but the thing is that they won't ever, ever scratch beneath the layers of your skin to reveal the pure but black, boundless ocean of your soul corrupted by misery. they will never understand that suicide is your only escape, your only ticket out of this miserable home we call earth.

if you plan on telling your friends of your story and the reasons behind why you'd ultimately like to take your life, remember to keep up a facade at the end. tell them that the date of your suicide is not near — tell them that they've still got time to disconvince you. be prepared for all that bullshit about how life is worth living, even thought you're the only enlightened soul who knows it's not.

be ready, be strong, be brave. bracing the kiss of the noose is not an easy thing. bracing the kiss of the glass with the nitrite solution is a difficult thing. bracing yourself through severing your own mortality is not an easy thing and is difficult also.

nothing comes easy. but you're a fighter, you are. we're all welled up here in the deepest part of the internet where sorrow marks every thread, every post, every comment, and every face behind that username and mask of a profile. we're all in this together, but we're so far apart — so distant. but in this, we find solace. every one of us who wishes to catch the bus will inevitably find another person here who wants to do the same with the same ticket in hand.

and i think, that's the most comfortable thing ever.

Wonderful writing~

 

[Rogue_Gendarme]

And I'm asking why bother creating a situation where you have to lie about when you are killing yourself to avoid being stopped when you could have lied in the beginning and told them you aren't suicidal? By telling someone you are suicidal you're either asking for help or wanting to be stopped or creating a more difficult situation for yourself by letting them know to be watchful over you... whereas if you just lie in the beginning and don't make them suspicious, you've avoided all that.

Reading comprehension be down, man. I literally just said some people don't have the luxury of venting to people who understand that suicide is the only solution for some people. And if they want to vent to those people, I'm saying they have to lie, because ultimately they don't have anyone else to turn to. You aren't engaging with my points at all

And I'm also explaining a way out of that "difficult situation" by pointing out that you can just lie to people about when you're going to die and that it's not that urgent. FFS, no one is a robot who can just waltz around and act not suspicious when death is one of the few things people will universally react to with strong feelings.

Sure, they might suspect depression at first, but if you fuck up an attempt and get discovered, then it's back to my advice of "if u want to continue trying to die, just say you have a different date, or do something different"

I don't understand the logic behind letting someone know you are suicidal and then lying about why or when... The much easier lie is to tell them you are fine and not suicidal. That ends the conversation much quicker.

"I'm not saying you should lie about being suicidal or lie about why you are suicidal. That's entirely contrary to the point I'm making. The point I'm making is that you should lie about when you will kill yourself, that they still have time to stop you, and that you're not really that suicidal and that you're just venting your feelings."

This guy never reads, I guess

If my advice doesn't do it for you, it's not for you

My point is... choosing to lie is more work than choosing not to engage at all. Or if you must engage, lie in the beginning when the small lie will suffice and you can walk away. If you're willing to be honest about being suicidal, then lying after that makes no sense to me because you already opened the can of worms.

I understand your point, but I've also said that this advice is not for your point but my point — which is that some people will never, EVER have anyone to talk to that aren't actively suicidal as well. Some of us don't have that luxury. Choosing to lie is a way for you to not be suspected and it's not a fucking waste of time if they're already onto you or your feelings are so overwhelming you can't bottle it up anymore

It doesn't make much sense that you're still here either cuz I just said that it's not advice for you and is not for whatever in God's name your situation is