No one is coming to save you.

[derpyderpins]

It's one of the harder truths to accept. It may seem easy to accept intellectually, but inside, there is this instinct in despair to mentally cry out "help me!" But no one will. It's not even anyone's fault, because they can't reasonably give the kind of help I need. And it's not like I can give anyone else that help. We're all struggling to survive. If the daily grind and bleak outlook is too much for me, who am I to cry out for help? Am I running around doing other people's work so they can get a break? No. Am I paying a bunch of other people's bills? No. I can try being kind and helping emotionally, and I don't want to say there's no point in that, but it doesn't change the physical; it doesn't change reality.

That's not meant to be a pity party. It's just trying to quiet that frustrating urge to ask the void for help with logic. It's not coming. It can't come. It has nothing to do with you, personally, it just isn't what the world is built for.

So, self, please don't waste time and energy crying out.

 

[fallingbehind]

This is why therapy was a complete waste of time for me lmfao (disclaimer, im saying for ME. not for anyone else, christ). For me, once you realise that the person in front of you would spit on you if you werent paying them it loses the entire appeal. I cant trust people in general, and nobody really gives a shit about what other people have going on, even if they pretend to.

 

[derpyderpins]

This is why therapy was a complete waste of time for me lmfao (disclaimer, im saying for ME. not for anyone else, christ). For me, once you realise that the person in front of you would spit on you if you werent paying them it looses the entire appeal. I cant trust people in general, and nobody really gives a shit about what other people have going on, even if they pretend to.

I'm sorry you've had that experience with therapy.

I disagree that nobody gives a shit. But it may be a distinction without much of a difference. People are weak, and don't have the capacity we may want them to when it comes to caring for themselves and someone else.

I'm an empath, whether I want to be or not. I am very affected by other people's pain and suffering. I'm definitely not pretending. And I think most people do care at least a little. We just aren't able to do anything while holding ourselves together.

But I understand your perspective. Someone feeling bad but not doing anything doesn't really mean much when you're hurting sometimes.

 

[amor.dor]

Some people even want to help, but often they don't know how—and it's not their fault. Most of us are unfortunately fumbling in the dark. Existence itself is harmful, and we don't even know why the hell we're existing beyond living to work until we can't take it anymore.
I try to help people, especially those closest to me, but often I can't find the right words that might actually help. Staying silent is better than saying something that could make the person's state worse.

 

[joey2424]

As I am closer to ctb, I do feel the urge too to cry out for help. It feels suffocating. I know that there is nothing anyone could possibly do anyway, even if they genuinely wanted to. The only possible outcome is making it harder to ctb, or at the very least, making others feel guiltier about it once I do. So, I won't say anything. But suffering alone like this is so inhumane.

 

[derpyderpins]

As I am closer to ctb, I do feel the urge too to cry out for help. It feels suffocating. I know that there is nothing anyone could possibly do anyway, even if they genuinely wanted to. The only possible outcome is making it harder to ctb, or at the very least, making others feel guiltier about it once I do. So, I won't say anything. But suffering alone like this is so inhumane.

Don't suffer alone.

My post was about the circumstances of life - what is required daily, like work and responsibilities.

But we all should have some emotional support. If you want to DM someone, feel free to DM me. It's one of the few things I feel I can do that is actually worth something.

 

[Nightingale93]

Yeah I've made my peace with that, especially as a male. No one cares about us or loves us. We're not meant to be. I'm owed nothing, deserve nothing, worth nothing, I am nothing.

 

[capi]

This phrase alone is honestly really harmful and was one of the reasons for my attempts. I hate it so much. Mental health spaces should really be empathetic when saying stuff like this.

No one should say this to anyone when they can say "how can i help you?"

Even though, unfortunately, the phrase is true. Because no one wants to say "how can i help?"
But its nothing that should ever be said to make someone feel defenseless.

 

[BlendedHeart]

I am beyond help. Comfortable words, clichés, invitations to go to therapy... all worthless.

The idea of being dead is becoming an obssession. Not death, but being dead. I think I'm getting there.

Loneliness is becoming unbearable. And that's precisely why. No one is coming to save me.

 

[StupidCat]

I'm willing to save anyone if it's within my power

 

[Pluto]

 

[Off_Switch]

It's against human nature to TRULY want to help someone else. We are biologically programmed to be selfish. Anyone willing to out another person will have a motive 99.9% of the time.

 

[derpyderpins]

This phrase alone is honestly really harmful and was one of the reasons for my attempts. I hate it so much. Mental health spaces should really be empathetic when saying stuff like this.

No one should say this to anyone when they can say "how can i help you?"

Even though, unfortunately, the phrase is true. Because no one wants to say "how can i help?"
But its nothing that should ever be said to make someone feel defenseless.

I apologize if it was insensitive. I'm directing the feelings inward and wanted to vent them.

I'm willing to save anyone if it's within my power

Me, too. And I like to think I've been some help here and there. Probably more than the average person. But saving . . . I can't even save myself, really.

 

[Tired_birth_1967]

No one can help. That would only be possible if someone could enter the mind of the person who needs help, see the world as that person sees it, and feel what they feel. Even then, it would only be the beginning.

 

[AngelTear]

So, self, please don't waste time and energy crying out.

I agree but yet I still cry out only to be met with the same things over and over again- it's made me more cynical.

 

[joey2424]

Yeah I've made my peace with that, especially as a male. No one cares about us or loves us. We're not meant to be. I'm owed nothing, deserve nothing, worth nothing, I am nothing.

I'm sorry that you feel that being male means no one cares or loves you. There are a lot of divisions being intentionally sewn between different groups, and among genders is one of them. I also have feelings about having to live as a woman, that I'm only an object and only valued if I'm an attractive object. I hope things change for all genders.

It's against human nature to TRULY want to help someone else. We are biologically programmed to be selfish. Anyone willing to out another person will have a motive 99.9% of the time.

I wholeheartedly disagree with this. I think capitalism makes people behave more selfishly than would be natural. I genuinely wish to help others, and I find small ways of doing that when I see ways I am capable. There are a lot of good people.

 

[Nightingale93]

I'm sorry that you feel that being male means no one cares or loves you. There are a lot of divisions being intentionally sewn between different groups, and among genders is one of them. I also have feelings about having to live as a woman, that I'm only an object and only valued if I'm an attractive object. I hope things change for all genders.

Well I hope you know that I don't see you that way. I love women, truly. The happiest moments in my life are when I was with a woman. All in the money or 'stuff' in the world doesn't compare.
You have value, you have such an incredible ability to bring such joy to people

 

[idontknowwhatiam]

It's against human nature to TRULY want to help someone else. We are biologically programmed to be selfish. Anyone willing to out another person will have a motive 99.9% of the time.

Completely disagree

 

[joey2424]

Well I hope you know that I don't see you that way. I love women, truly. The happiest moments in my life are when I was with a woman. All in the money or 'stuff' in the world doesn't compare.
You have value, you have such an incredible ability to bring such joy to people

When I saw that you'd replied to me, I got a little scared to be honest. Because I was worried you could have thought I'm discounting your experience, and things between genders have been so heated lately sometimes. When I read this response I actually cried because it's so beautiful. The truth is I've been very hurt by men in my life, but I know that most men are good. And you are clearly one of those men. I wish the algorithms weren't dividing us like they are. Thanks for making my night

 

[FadingSnowFake]

I woke up to a similar thought today. Us humans are selfish. We do what we can to survive. Sometimes people do things to save or better themselves to the detriment of others. We look out for ourselves, most people not caring about the affect of our actions on others. And if we care, and we get f*cked, we learn not to feel or care so much anymore.

 

[Nightingale93]

When I saw that you'd replied to me, I got a little scared to be honest. Because I was worried you could have thought I'm discounting your experience, and things between genders have been so heated lately sometimes. When I read this response I actually cried because it's so beautiful. The truth is I've been very hurt by men in my life, but I know that most men are good. And you are clearly one of those men. I wish the algorithms weren't dividing us like they are. Thanks for making my night

Awww! Thank you so much for letting me know that, I'm really happy that you're happy.
I truly hope you one day find someone, that will make you happy, and you can spend the rest of your life with!

 

[Off_Switch]

Completely disagree

Elaborate then.

 

[capi]

I apologize if it was insensitive. I'm directing the feelings inward and wanted to vent them.

Me, too. And I like to think I've been some help here and there. Probably more than the average person. But saving . . . I can't even save myself, really.

Its ok, i know you were just venting. Im talking about in general how people push this rhetoric instead of helping people. Not saying you do that. The phrase just triggered me

 

[RiftbornVeil]

It's one of the harder truths to accept. It may seem easy to accept intellectually, but inside, there is this instinct in despair to mentally cry out "help me!" But no one will. It's not even anyone's fault, because they can't reasonably give the kind of help I need. And it's not like I can give anyone else that help. We're all struggling to survive. If the daily grind and bleak outlook is too much for me, who am I to cry out for help? Am I running around doing other people's work so they can get a break? No. Am I paying a bunch of other people's bills? No. I can try being kind and helping emotionally, and I don't want to say there's no point in that, but it doesn't change the physical; it doesn't change reality.

That's not meant to be a pity party. It's just trying to quiet that frustrating urge to ask the void for help with logic. It's not coming. It can't come. It has nothing to do with you, personally, it just isn't what the world is built for.

So, self, please don't waste time and energy crying out.

The world is such a cruel place. And my voice is almost gone, from crying out. Sometimes I do wish people knew about this hurt I bear. I wonder if they would have done anything about it. I used to imagine constructed scenarios about someone saving me, or someone seeing me. That is a time long gone, and your logic is right, not a single one of my hopeful situations were ever realized. Very few people have the determination to extend their hand; I can't fault anyone for choosing their own baggage over mine, can I?

 

[dragonofenvy]

People are only saved in the movies. Most quietly descend to the void in silence.

 

[ForestGhost]

I definitely relate to this sentiment

That childlike part of my brain comes alive when I'm at my lowest, looking for someone to leech the pain away, but it's just not possible anymore. The cuts and scrapes are too deep now. Even with a shoulder to cry on, an empathetic ear to share the pain with... the dysfunction is so woven into me, like a parasite that's completely fused with its host, that I keep being devoured in spite of it all.

 

[badatparties]

What would saving me even look like? I was happy for a brief time during my childhood where i was naive to the world and it's complexity. Nothing makes sense to me now.

I'm in a decaying meat suit with violent chimps all around me, and i don't know why. What the fuck is going on? Someone get me out of here to a world where things make sense.

 

[webb&flow]

It's against human nature to TRULY want to help someone else. We are biologically programmed to be selfish. Anyone willing to out another person will have a motive 99.9% of the time.

We are also biologically programmed to genuinely want to help others.

 

[Fadenself00]

People are only saved in the movies. Most quietly descend to the void in silence.

and i have found that your brain plays scenarios very closely related to movies about somebody saving you, when youre this low..

i guess that makes sense because its the only reference point most people who have gotten this deep into such a situation, have about said situation.

in reality such a scenario is gonna be almost insignificantly unlikely :(

im also assuming it would take a person who has been this deep before, *and* has gotten out of this hole, to even be a candidate for such a 'saviour'

 

[nitrogenous]

that is so true. People often say how there's tons of help if we are willing to, but realistically there's none. No one really cares about you more than they care about themselves. Even medical professionals have been little help for me. Sure, they can provide the talking, but historically when I do needed real help with meeting my basic needs, no one was willing at all to help me dispense my meds, or give me financial aid as I was rejected on the basis of "not being vulnerable enough" (when in fact I had $0 savings and an overdrawn debit card = can't afford food, meds, insurance, rent, anything).