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Do you know how the "in depth appraisal" works im from NY and its going to be impossible for me to find a doctor who can write a letter for me to get euthanasia. Thats why I was wondering if I should forge it you think Dignitas would find out I mean can they really call doctors in the U.S. to check if the medical papers we give them are real or not...? But yeah does Dignitas check your passport and id when you get there?
You raise a crucial factor in all of this which I had discussed with Dignitas. In America, if you disclose to a "mental health" professional that you want to die, then it's off to the looney-bin with you. If you disclose your desire to die to a Swiss mental health professional you will not be locked up, and instead will hear you out and then make an assessment. This will take time, at least 1 year. So in order to ultimately qualify for the services of Dignitas, it would be better to spend time in Switzerland, and seek the services of a Swiss psychiatrist. This will raise the costs significantly though.
If I made a fake in depth appraisal though how would Dignitas tell if its real or not? They can't call the doctors in America can they? I actually did this with one of my doctors they needed a doctors note for anesthesia and it worked so whats the difference with Dignitas?
That's a good question, but I would wager that they would call and have extended contact (email etc) with the doctor in America because they (Dignitas) need to fully document everything should they come under criticism from the Swiss government. I would also speculate that getting a prescription for the drug that terminates Human life is not as easy to forge / procure than, for example, a prescription for Vicodin.
Also do you have to show them your id and passport? I know one of the guys on here literally said they actually dont even contact the US and they dont check for id even Pegasos doesnt. He literally had all the fucking answers and now hes gone already the one person who had all the answers I desperately been dying to know for almost a year now just had to die around the time I joined
They definitely check and ask for passport, this is not something that can be done behind closed doors. They have to produce a death certificate with the deceased name. The doctor also will need to see your passport. This is all required by Swiss law, both Dignitas and Pegasos have to follow Swiss law.Also do you have to show them your id and passport? I know one of the guys on here literally said they actually dont even contact the US and they dont check for id even Pegasos doesnt. He literally had all the fucking answers and now hes gone already the one person who had all the answers I desperately been dying to know for almost a year now just had to die around the time I joined
Okay do you know for Pegasos if I apply with them how many days do I have to stay with them for the appointments, because I know for Dignitas the appointments are just a couple hours long? Also I do suffer from depression but im just going to tell them I have physical illness would they "find out" I actually have mental illness too? I just really feel theres no way for Pegasos or Dignitas to find that information the US would probably will not give it to them right?... like yeah they would get information from your passport etc but I highly doubt they will call my doctor and ask what illnesses I have..
So let me get this striaght both Dignitas and pegasos do not require you to provide any id or passport to identify who you are when you arrive at their clinics? Smh why is this such a run around question
ill look and sorry for being annoying...just feel like shit because one of the members on here had all the answers to my questions ive been trying to get answered for almost a year. I just found out he already went to Dignitas so disappointed feel like he was my only hope...
I'm sorry. YES they both require that. And lots of paperwork, Pegasos less paperwork than Dignitas. In both clinics, local authorities use all that and your required witness (you bring one or hire one with help from Pegasos) to ID you. You are cremated and a death certificate is generated. However, suicide is not listed as cause of death. Pegasos will mail the death certificate wherever you ask them to. It could be a grocery store, they don't care. They do not alert the embassy.So let me get this striaght both Dignitas and pegasos do not require you to provide any id or passport to identify who you are when you arrive at their clinics? Smh why is this such a run around question
Ok last question i promise sorry for this long question.. but Yeah so i read the website Pegasos doesnt accept young people with mental illness.. i might just have to tell them I have only a physical illness but im just wondering based on my id and passport could they find out i also have a mental? Like I wouldn't even think they could find out or get through to see my medical records in America. I just really feel theres no way for Pegasos or Dignitas to find that information bc the US would probably will not give it to them Also If I made a fake in depth appraisal though how would they tell if its real or not? They can't call the doctors in America can they? I actually did this with one of my doctors that needed a doctors note for anesthesia, and it worked so whats the difference with Dignitas or Pegnsos?
I suppose you can falsify your case, but you will be meet with a physician and a psychologist separately there. The physician isn't there to physically examine you - more to review the upcoming procedure - but it may be apparent that you are a healthy young person.
Well i actually am on disability. I have a herniated disc that probably will lead me in a wheel chair soon. Idk like i said there was one guy on here who had all the answers to my questions preferably for Dignitas but he already went. Hasn't been active in a week. But yeah forging the papers may seem like my only chance of them approving me.
Maybe we have the same friend, not sure. I talked quite a bit to fightingsioux but he did go to Pegasos this week. He made it just in time with all this madness. I was in the process of being scheduled for late April. No such luck woth current state of affairs.Well i actually am on disability. I have a herniated disc that probably will lead me in a wheel chair soon. Idk like i said there was one guy on here who had all the answers to my questions preferably for Dignitas but he already went. Hasn't been active in a week. But yeah forging the papers may seem like my only chance of them approving me.
According to Dignitas, that any foreigner that dies in Switzerland, the information of that person's passing is sent to the government of the of the country of domicile of the deceased.
In order to use the services of Dignitas (and I'm guessing Pegasos as well, though I had not talked extensively with them on that matter) they need doctors recommendation, and they need to actually speak via email or phone to a doctor, be it Swiss doctor or a doctor from the States.
That's a possibility, but it's the 10,000 fee is the thing that prevents most from using their services.
Maybe you can bring your own benzos or whatever? FYI, I was reading today that international travel likely won't start back until at least October.
Yeah they are actually my last hope. I live in America and desperately would do anything to be accepted by them. I know they dont except people with mental issues, which is why I plan on not telling them. I do have a physical disability which is a herniated disc, but this also may not be enough to get accepted. That being said since i live in America, and they are in Switzerland, I am thinking about creating my own medical papers and saying I have cancer or dementia just so they can accept me. How will they catch on if I forge the papers since they are all the way in Switzerland? I am so hopeless I actually dream about them accepting me... so do you think I can get away with making fake papers for cancer?
I have the money to pay im just asking how will they find out if its fake or not since I live in America how would they call my doctors?
They only do that if its mental not for physical which is why I actually don't plan on telling them I have depression ptsd. Some one on here got accepted she had both a physical and mental issues but i think she told them she only had physical disabilities
I know, I just don't find it fair. Mental illness once again held to some ridiculous standard.
Thats why im thinking about forging the papers how are they going to tell if the medical papers are real or not unless they have to call the doctors, i dont see what the issue is on forging the medical papers. I might have ovarian cancer anyways they are literally my last hope in life the things i would do for them to accept me i would pay them everything i have left to accept me i just cant do sn cus i feel like I'll fail at least with pegasos or dignitas is 100% ctb
Give it a try but I've heard that international flights may not resume until oct so even if you get accepted you have to wait. It's an expensive method. If you're willing to go to those lengths why don't you just try to get N from A?
They will want to speak with an actual person by telephone—you cannot just present a document that says "let this person die". They will make a phone call to the fake doctors office, then you'll be found out. Even if you get an American doctor to recommend assisted suicide, most likely will want you to get the professional opinion from a psychiatrist based in Switzerland.
According to the representative I spoke to, the process takes at least 1 year anyway.
That will not be possible. Legally speaking, one has to be of a clear head that very moment of flicking the switch, or drinking the lethal cocktail.
There was a girl on here she got accepted for physical problems but she also had mental and i dont think she told them so thats why im confused? I have a herniated disc that I might have to get surgery for i have spasms and urnation problems i cant walk still but am bedridden mostly you think that will be enough go get accepted?
Her name is "I'vehadenough"
