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Fayrie2001

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Would 220 litres of 100% helium be enough to kill me, provided I am not interrupted? It's extremely hard to get inert gas in the UK.
 

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To be safe it would be prudent to get a bigger tank, you'll want to achieve approx 15-18LPM and that will run out far to quick for comfort.

Also getting inert gas in the UK is not difficult, I'd be looking for pure Nitrogen rather than helium as all welding suppliers hold this and they will guarantee there is no oxygen in the tank.
 
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How do you know this helium is actually 100% pure helium? It doesn't say that anywhere in the pics you posted. Most helium sold today, especially sold to fill balloons, is not 100% helium. Rather, it is a mix of 80% helium and 20% air. Not saying you didn't find 100% helium somewhere. Just saying you need to be sure. And testing it yourself requires expensive equipment out of reach for most people. Read this thread about the 80/20 helium now common.

 
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Fayrie2001

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To be safe it would be prudent to get a bigger tank, you'll want to achieve approx 15-18LPM and that will run out far to quick for comfort.

Also getting inert gas in the UK is not difficult, I'd be looking for pure Nitrogen rather than helium as all welding suppliers hold this and they will guarantee there is no oxygen in the tank.
All the places I've looked at won't sell to residential buildings.
How do you know this helium is actually 100% pure helium? It doesn't say that anywhere in the pics you posted. Most helium sold today, especially sold to fill balloons, is not 100% helium. Rather, it is a mix of 80% helium and 20% air. Not saying you didn't find 100% helium somewhere. Just saying you need to be sure. And testing it yourself requires expensive equipment out of reach for most people. Read this thread about the 80/20 helium now common.

How do you know this helium is actually 100% pure helium? It doesn't say that anywhere in the pics you posted. Most helium sold today, especially sold to fill balloons, is not 100% helium. Rather, it is a mix of 80% helium and 20% air. Not saying you didn't find 100% helium somewhere. Just saying you need to be sure. And testing it yourself requires expensive equipment out of reach for most people. Read this thread about the 80/20 helium now common.

I've high lighted it on the screenshot
 

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All the places I've looked at won't sell to residential buildings.


I've high lighted it on the screenshot
I can't link you or advise where to buy from but one of the biggest UK suppliers will ship to residential or you can collect from their many stores across the UK, not cheap to buy the tank or regulator but it's a proven method and I know people who have bought from them with no issue. The nitrogen is 99.9% purity as well so as long as you regulate the flow correctly and use a suitable exit bag or hood you are good to go. You can literally buy this under the premise of being a hobby welder.
 
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Fayrie2001

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Jul 26, 2024
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To be safe it would be prudent to get a bigger tank, you'll want to achieve approx 15-18LPM and that will run out far to quick for comfort.

Also getting inert gas in the UK is not difficult, I'd be looking for pure Nitrogen rather than helium as all welding suppliers hold this and they will guarantee there is no oxygen in the tank.
So I found a tank that holds 400 litres (it's 200 bar so very compressed) if I just get two of those and have tubes from both into the bag, will that work?
 
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So I found a tank that holds 400 litres (it's 200 bar so very compressed) if I just get two of those and have tubes from both into the bag, will that work?
The set up would require more prep and would take more space within the bag but I don't see why not, you will of course then need two regulators and two flow meters etc which is additional expense but unavoidable if you want to do it as two tanks. Also I will reiterate I do not suggest helium as it nearly always has oxygen mixed in now and you should therefore use nitrogen. Hope that helps.
 
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Fayrie2001

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The set up would require more prep and would take more space within the bag but I don't see why not, you will of course then need two regulators and two flow meters etc which is additional expense but unavoidable if you want to do it as two tanks. Also I will reiterate I do not suggest helium as it nearly always has oxygen mixed in now and you should therefore use nitrogen. Hope that helps.
Thank you. It is nitrogen that I'm talking about now.
 

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