DontTouchMeImFamous
Student
- Jul 18, 2024
- 129
if i applied the recipe for making cyanide in the PPH correctly and followed the instructions correctly, is it guaranteed to kill me?
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TheHolySword
empty heart
- Nov 22, 2024
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No, there aren't really guaranteed methods. None that are recommended or advised, in terms of accessibility at least. There are treatments available for cyanide so you can absolutely be saved. This doesn't mean you will survive but there is a possibility. I would stray from searching for the perfect absolute guaranteed method and instead find one that makes the best sense for you
Fire&Ash
Specialist
- Apr 15, 2020
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L'absent
Banned
- Aug 18, 2024
- 1,391
Cyanide is one of the strongest poisons you can get. 500mg are 100% lethal if you don't receive medical help immediately. If you're not found within literally minutes it's over.
L'absent
Banned
- Aug 18, 2024
- 1,391
But is it that easy to produce? What is the probability of making a mistake in the recipe and producing something toxic and non-fatal? Or mortal with much pain and a long time to wait?
It's quite easy to make HCN/KCN. All you need is ferrocyanide or ferricyanide and the (web-)search.
Caution bc HCN is also toxic in low doses.
L'absent
Banned
- Aug 18, 2024
- 1,391
I found the recipe online. It's unclear and confusing as usual.
DontTouchMeImFamous
Student
- Jul 18, 2024
- 129
you mean how to make it? In The Peaceful Pill Handbook there is detailed information on how to manufacture sodium cyanide. You can find the book here.
I know. My question was how reliable is the recipe in The Peaceful Pill Handbook? Will the recipe produce a lethal cyanide?
what is "ferrocyanide or ferricyanide "? where can i find it?
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DontTouchMeImFamous
Student
- Jul 18, 2024
- 129
DontTouchMeImFamous
Student
- Jul 18, 2024
- 129
Sorry for the late reply. Anyhow, here's the recipe, copied from PPH 2007 ed. Pages 94-5:
*Page 94*
The Manufacture of Sodium Cyanide
(Notes courtesy Bert Tucker)
Sodium cyanide can be manufactured in a number of ways. Two relatively simple methods are described in the scientific literature. The first involves the use of the readily available dye, Prussian Blue (Iron III Ferro cyanide). A second uses the common swimming pool chlorine stabiliser, cyanuric acid.
In the first process the Prussian Blue is first converted to sodium ferrocyanide. This is done by allowing it to react with caustic soda in water. Iron oxide is precipitated and sodium ferro cyanide obtained. This sodium ferrocyanide (Yellow Prussate of Soda) is then converted to sodium cyanide by allowing it to
react with concentrated sulphuric acid.
*Fig7.1: Forge reduces sodium cyanate with carbon*
The very toxic HCN produced is passed into caustic soda to form the desired salt. There is considerable information available on this process but it was abandoned after initial experiments, considering it too dangerous for the inexperienced home chemist - some of whom may be readers of this book.
A more suitable method of safe, small-scale home manufacture of sodium cyanide involves the two stage conversion of the common swimming pool chemical cyanuric acid.
*Page 95*
The first step is carried out by heating powdered cyanuric acid with sodium carbonate. Sodium carbonate is obtained directly as washing soda (or by converting sodium bicarbonate, baking soda). In the second stage, the sodium cyanate produced is reduced to sodium cyanide by heating it with powdered charcoal in a covered crucible (Fig 7.1).
It is important that this stage is undertaken outside. In this process, carbon monoxide is given off. The resultant glassy mass is cooled, crushed and filtered with water to remove the soluble sodium cyanide from the remaining insoluble carbon (Fig 7.2). Careful drying produces solid sodium cyanide powder.
As with all home manufacture there is a need for great care in carrying out this process. Contaminated items need to be disposed of carefully after traces of cyanide are removed. This is best achieved using chlorine bleach to oxidise any unwanted cyanide and to prevent it contaminating the equipment. The product also needs to be tested by analytic means to determine its concentration and purity. Quantitative tests are available and Exit offers such a service for supporters. Further information that details the manufacturing process can be found in most university and public libraries.
