Discussion Is suicide decided on temporary emotions?

[dogemn]

Do people who die by suicide act on intense emotions that are temporary and could have passed or been alleviated?
From what I've read, many suicide attempts are impulsive and decided in minutes or hours during peaks of despair or crisis. Does that mean it's often a poor decision?

 

[tonicer]

I can only speak about myself here of course but for me it started when i was a teenager. I am now 40+ and i still want to die by suicide but i have to postpone it until my parents are gone. I can't harm them with my suicide. So for me it's not a quick decision but a long time plan.

It could be alleviated if i wasn't so damn poor and lonely. If i got a job or won the lottery i would want to continue living for a long time. Same with romance. If i met a nice lady that loves me i wouldn't think about suicide anymore.

 

[broken serenity]

I would argue it's more complex than just yes or no. Most people will not carry out something like this if their life wasn't already in a pretty bad place, and you can read any of the vents. I feel like a lot of people look at the latest negative events in the person's life prior and say that's it... but it's more than just that in the persons head.

 

[JeyJeyOfJeypore]

Do people who die by suicide act on intense emotions that are temporary and could have passed or been alleviated?
From what I've read, many suicide attempts are impulsive and decided in minutes or hours during peaks of despair or crisis. Does that mean it's often a poor decision?

Probly. But its probly for their own good anyway if they experienced that much pain in that moment in this endless cycle of pain

 

[crossingtheriver]

Do people who die by suicide act on intense emotions that are temporary and could have passed or been alleviated?
From what I've read, many suicide attempts are impulsive and decided in minutes or hours during peaks of despair or crisis. Does that mean it's often a poor decision?

It's not that simple. We need a great deal of nuance to understand the situation and avoid making the sweeping assumption that all suicides are purely impulsive. This is a very subjective, say, a perfectly healthy person in his early 20s decides to kill himself because of a breakup, but is saved then goes to become successful in his professional and personal life this was possible for this person because of their inner strength shaped by secure childhood that they could tap into and come out of this phase. In another case, someone who's clearly suffered a lot right from childhood, growing up with intense psychological trauma carried into adulthood, could never keep a job nor a stable relationship, always contemplating suicide because they feel they were just built unhappy to put themselves out of misery. When they act on it, it is definitely NOT impulsive because it is an action that they took influenced by their own life for a very long time. These are just a few cases I wanted to use as examples to demonstrate my point. English is not my first language, so I could not fully articulate what I wanted to say but I hope I was able to explain the nuance.

 

[JeyJeyOfJeypore]

It's not that simple. We need a great deal of nuance to understand the situation and avoid making the sweeping assumption that all suicides are purely impulsive. This is a very subjective, say, a perfectly healthy person in his early 20s decides to kill himself because of a breakup, but is saved then goes to become successful in his professional and personal life this was possible for this person because of their inner strength shaped by secure childhood that they could tap into and come out of this phase. In another case, someone who's clearly suffered a lot right from childhood, growing up with intense psychological trauma carried into adulthood, could never keep a job nor a stable relationship, always contemplating suicide because they feel they were just built unhappy to put themselves out of misery. When they act on it, it is definitely NOT impulsive because it is an action that they took influenced by their own life for a very long time. These are just a few cases I wanted to use as examples to demonstrate my point. English is not my first language, so I could not fully articulate what I wanted to say but I hope I was able to explain the nuance.

What about the majority of the ppl who were somewhat depressed but not suicidal, but then just had one bad day?

i think all it did is open the eyes. Most ppl live shitty lives but are used to it or believe in some other delusion keeping them alive

Since the mediocrity happens bit by bit, they dont even realize how shitty its become until "that" time

Focused on one survivor that makes it big is the medias propaganda, most continue to have shitty lives and die slowly and painfully

 

[DeathSweetDeath]

Sure, sometimes.
If you don't want to do that, then don't consider suicide unless you've been sure of your decision for at least one year & have done everything possible before that to turn things in a different direction.

 

[crossingtheriver]

What about the majority of the ppl who were somewhat depressed but not suicidal, but then just had one bad day?

i think all it did is open the eyes. Most ppl live shitty lives but are used to it or believe in some other delusion keeping them alive

Since the mediocrity happens bit by bit, they dont even realize how shitty its become until "that" time

Focused on one survivor that makes it big is the medias propaganda, most continue to have shitty lives and die slowly and painfully

that's the first type of example I talked about the majority who are just temporarily depressed.

 

[JeyJeyOfJeypore]

that's the first type of example I talked about the majority who are just temporarily depressed.

oh. I guess im bad at reading walls of text

 

[Forveleth]

Considering I have been suicidal for 25 years, I would say no.