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sashaisalone

sashaisalone

Shattered Angel
Mar 24, 2026
52
Good afternoon, post contains suggestive commentary, and I've spoilered a thirst trap.

These are some thoughts that have been on my mind a lot, and hearing another trans woman speaking about her ex boyfriend being ambivalent about dating her for this reason kinda solidifies it for me. So pretty much the entirety of my romantic life post transition has been sapphic T4T, meaning I've only ended up in romantic relationships with other trans women even though I'm bisexual and desire romance with cis people both male and female. Although I've successfully got cis people in my bed before post transition, it's rare I've gotten a cis person to go on a second date with me, however I have had more luck with lesbian and bi women than straight or bi men. This post will mostly be focusing on men.

Something I also want to be understanding of and relate back to my own preferences; genital preferences in an intimate setting is perfectly valid! Although I like both pussy and dick in women, I have a VERY strong genital preference for dick in men. So I do see many FTMs and find them really handsome, sweet, and cute, and I even find myself daydreaming when I see a particularly good looking one and think about how nice it would feel if he held my hand and kissed me. However, I'm unsure how comfortable I'd be in the bedroom with an FTM unless he were post op and I thought his dick looked good. So for straight men and lesbian women (in some cases bi/pan people), it makes total sense if one of them were to pass me up simply because of my anatomy!

However, it's not common that I hear someone talk about trans women similarly where they're like "Yeah! There are some genuinely beautiful gorgeous trans women out there! However, I'm not sure if I could be intimate with or enter a serious relationship with someone with a dick. Maybe if she were post op though?" and if it's a straight guy maybe additionally "Then again, I as a straight man really want to father biological children, so probably not." More often than not, it feels like it instead comes from a place of either transmisogyny, homophobia, toxic masculinity, or a combination of the three. That we in some way maintain some constant of "ontological maleness" regardless of how we physically appear and carry ourselves. Obviously with lesbians, especially ones who WOULD date a trans men on testosterone and even one who has had top surgery, they're not homophobic nor toxically masculine, but almost certainly are transmisogynistic. For men however, it's more likely to be the threeway combination. Trans woman porn is one of the most popular porn categories even ahead of MILF, and all porn is tailored to the male gaze, including lesbian porn. I've also been catcalled or whistled at several times and even on a couple instances sexually harassed by male strangers.

Clearly, men do experience sexual attraction to us. Not only that, while we are often a favorite of bisexuals both male and female, attraction to the female form but with a penis seems to be a subset of GYNEPHELIC attraction as opposed to androphilic attraction. Men who are attracted to such a body are far more likely to be primarily or exclusively straight men than be gay men. So while there's clear erotic interest in us, it often feels hopeless that a man would ever love me, but cis people in general seem to be rather flaky towards me. For men in particular, not only can I just be reduced to a casual exotic curiosity, but there's more extrinsic social pressure to never seriously date me. Even if it doesn't make him feel gay, his friends might call him gay if he tells them about me. That, and although I don't think people are clocking me most of the time in public, it retroactively feels obvious when people do know, so a man being seen in public with me holding hands might feel spooky for him. That, and I do sometimes get clocked by strangers, and depending on how queer or trans adjacent meaning you have more exposure to what kinds of physical traits and patterns amongst transsexuals, you might have an eye for it and pick that up about me. I've also had others just straight up tell me that they would have never guessed or even express surprise like "no way".

It's not simply "my ex is to blame" for me being on these forums, however the fact that I was able to screw up love that pure and kind was also pretty blackpilling. The fact that it's so easy for the cishets to date around me and for me to never be anyone's first choice, ngl, I don't feel great about that either. People often talk about a "male loneliness epidemic" which often times is just men who don't shower and groom, dress in sweats and baggy shirts every day, and put no effort into making themselves marketable and appealing to women. But for men who truly are romantics at heart, they're attractive, they're sweet and gentlemenly, but they're damaged and neurotic, and women abandon them the moment their pain or trauma shows through, my heart really does go out to men like that. I often daydream about cradling a boy in my arms and him using my breasts as pillows while I stroke his hair and make soft shushing noises and his tears passively flow into my shirt. He's crying because he feels like he found someone who finally understands and wants him to feel at home and safe by her side. I feel like in a way, I lived it. I was a lonely neurotic guy myself before I transitioned, so I could come from a place of unique understanding. I've even considered getting elective vaginoplasty if I ever got married to a man despite me not feeling much dysphoria about my anatomy, just because I want to be able to give him my own pussy and to know what it feels like for my husband to spread me and make me REALLY feel like a woman.

All of that said, what's the perspective of men on what I've written? Also, based on the thirst trap I have spoilered, do I deserve love or is it actually joever for me?



 
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The Blackangel

The Blackangel

Resident Sociopath
Nov 3, 2018
252
Yes it is possible for heterosexual romance. When I cam out, my wife stood by me and has supported me 100% ever since. She actually says she has the best of both worlds. She can get a male perspective, and has a girl to just veg out with eating ice cream and talking. I know several other girls who aren't married that have partners. Your best bet is to find a local LGBTQ+ bar/club and try going a few times. You're likely to meet someone there. And as surprising as this may sound, there are often a lot of cis heterosexual people at LGBTQ+ clubs. Their reasons for going, I can't say. Everyone has their own reasons.

So don't give up. You'll find someone. But often, it's not until you stop looking that you find that person. Like I said, don't give up sister. I'm always around if you need. I'll always be here for our brothers and sisters.
 
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sashaisalone

Shattered Angel
Mar 24, 2026
52
Yes it is possible for heterosexual romance. When I cam out, my wife stood by me and has supported me 100% ever since. She actually says she has the best of both worlds. She can get a male perspective, and has a girl to just veg out with eating ice cream and talking. I know several other girls who aren't married that have partners. Your best bet is to find a local LGBTQ+ bar/club and try going a few times. You're likely to meet someone there. And as surprising as this may sound, there are often a lot of cis heterosexual people at LGBTQ+ clubs. Their reasons for going, I can't say. Everyone has their own reasons.

So don't give up. You'll find someone. But often, it's not until you stop looking that you find that person. Like I said, don't give up sister. I'm always around if you need. I'll always be here for our brothers and sisters.
Is your wife bi and now you're her wife when you were previously her husband? I'm confused.
 
The Blackangel

The Blackangel

Resident Sociopath
Nov 3, 2018
252
Is your wife bi and now you're her wife when you were previously her husband? I'm confused.
She is heterosexual. And yes, I was her husband. But now I'm her wife. She is my wife, and I'm her wife. True, it is a bit confusing as to the specific dynamics, but while I can't exactly put it in words, we know where we stand.
 
sashaisalone

sashaisalone

Shattered Angel
Mar 24, 2026
52
She is heterosexual. And yes, I was her husband. But now I'm her wife. She is my wife, and I'm her wife. True, it is a bit confusing as to the specific dynamics, but while I can't exactly put it in words, we know where we stand.
Okay if that makes you two happy with those identities and labels, that's fine, but when I say heterosexual romance, I mean I'm the woman and I'm with a man who is straight for me. Not I'm "the man" and a woman is "straight" for me.
 
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Seneca65AD

Student
Oct 28, 2025
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I have dated trans women in the past. A "former" friend argued that made me gay. I don't think so because I am not and have never been attracted to guys - but I really don't care if people give me that label. My wife (cis female) doesn't think dating trans women makes a person bi/gay, etc. Similarly, if my wife dated a trans man, I would not consider her bi/lesbian.

The above applies to marriage - women are women in my mind (trans/cis) - it's the energy/connection between the people that counts.

Hell yes, hetero romance is more than possible for you, it will happen. You will fall in love (again), have your heart broken (again) and then someday you will find someone with whom you just "connect" for the long-term. Just keep getting out with friends and socializing. Don't try to rush things - you are still young (I know, I know..... another old guy saying don't rush things.)

Edited: just to clarify the last paragraph.
 
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sashaisalone

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Mar 24, 2026
52
I have dated trans women in the past. A "former" friend argued that made me gay. I don't think so because I am not and have never been attracted to guys - but I really don't care if people give me that label. My wife (cis female) doesn't think dating trans women makes a person bi/gay, etc. Similarly, if my wife dated a trans man, I would not consider her bi/lesbian.

The above applies to marriage - women are women in my mind (trans/cis) - it's the energy/connection between the people that counts.

Hell yes, hetero romance is more than possible for you, it is very likely, just keep getting out with friends and socializing. Just don't try to rush things - you are still young (I know, I know..... another old guy saying don't rush things.)
This means a lot to hear that only did you have romance with girls like me, but your wife doesn't think less of you for it either. Thank you for sharing. :)
 
The Blackangel

The Blackangel

Resident Sociopath
Nov 3, 2018
252
Okay if that makes you two happy with those identities and labels, that's fine, but when I say heterosexual romance, I mean I'm the woman and I'm with a man who is straight for me. Not I'm "the man" and a woman is "straight" for me.
I think there's a miscommunication between us. I used gendered pronouns and labels for simplicity sake. Only to clarify our situation as simply as I could think. I don't have the biggest or best vocabulary, so at times I'm going to come off as incredibly thick.
 
paranoias64

paranoias64

Member
Nov 25, 2025
6
there's plenty of cis men who love and respect trans women. from my pov, i would say that there's more that would prefer u keep your birth anatomy, even disregarding chasers. i think you'll find love and are deserving of it. it's not joever.

and i also liked the thirst trap.
- lez tgirl
 
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sashaisalone

Shattered Angel
Mar 24, 2026
52
from my pov, i would say that there's more that would prefer u keep your birth anatomy, even disregarding chasers.
Okay, have you considered though that anal is terrible and I'd love if a man bred my pussy? 🥵
 
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paranoias64

Member
Nov 25, 2025
6
Okay, have you considered though that anal is terrible and I'd love if a man bred my pussy? 🥵
OMG TRVKE. i dont bottom very often and when i have i didn't enjoy it that much :(. i feel like such a faketrans bc i kinda like topping. if i can ever get srs i'd like to have both,, >~<
 
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sashaisalone

Shattered Angel
Mar 24, 2026
52
OMG TRVKE. i dont bottom very often and when i have i didn't enjoy it that much :(. i feel like such a faketrans bc i kinda like topping. if i can ever get srs i'd like to have both,, >~<
I've heard of other tran freakazoids who want a phallo preserving method. You're not alone lol. I'm spiritually a switch, but I guess I'm stuck being either a top or a bottom based upon what's between my legs at any given time?
 
paranoias64

paranoias64

Member
Nov 25, 2025
6
I've heard of other tran freakazoids who want a phallo preserving method. You're not alone lol. I'm spiritually a switch, but I guess I'm stuck being either a top or a bottom based upon what's between my legs at any given time?
my ideal relationship is lez c4t with me being a sub top. but im pretty switchy and can be verse if need be. i love my fellow tgirls but it does get a lil tiring when im always having to take the lead cause theyre way more subby than i am. do u think its joever for me? i feel like cis women dont like trans women :/
 
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sashaisalone

Shattered Angel
Mar 24, 2026
52
my ideal relationship is lez c4t with me being a sub top. but im pretty switchy and can be verse if need be. i love my fellow tgirls but it does get a lil tiring when im always having to take the lead cause theyre way more subby than i am. do u think its joever for me? i feel like cis women dont like trans women :/
Ngl, I'd love to have a lesbian or bi cisfoid girlfriend who is a subby bottom with chaser tendencies and finds the fact that I'm a pretty girl but my anatomy allows me to breed her to be super hot lmao.
 
reasal_phenomenon

reasal_phenomenon

New Member
Apr 2, 2026
4
If you look at e.g. /r/StraightTransGirls it seems fairly possible in big cities. Both FFS and SRS decreased my dating prospects massively however and men are in general nastier to me now so long as they know I'm trans, so be wary of this. Men who date trans women may not be necessarily happy to date a trans woman who lacks androgynous features long term, because at that point they see an advantage in dating a cis woman in order to have kids etc.

Do note that many men expect trans women to have lower standards by virtue of being trans, and thus are less likely to court you how they would attempt to woo a cis woman (this can be extremely dysphoria-inducing ime - they can be extremely inappropriate because they know we might not have other options). Bisexual men in my experience are the nicest, but also they expect relationship dynamics that aren't really as heteronormative as I would prefer.

This is my experience and my friends' experiences, I don't mean all men are like this per se, just general trends I've seen in my area.
 
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Even Flow

Even Flow

Member
Apr 4, 2026
10
I have a mtf friend who's currently dating one of my other friends so it's not impossible
 
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nails

wait i'm goated
Feb 12, 2023
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like everyone else has said, it's definitely possible. many trans women have healthy, loving romantic and sexual relationships with cis men. of course, it'll likely be difficult for a few different reasons; but it can absolutely happen. society sucks, there are so many cis people, men especially, who are weird towards trans women. a lot of it is definitely misogyny and toxic masculinity. transphobia as well, ofc; but even pro-trans cis dudes are weird about this shit because misogyny is so deeply ingrained into our society and their brains. being with any woman who doesn't fit the strict criteria that society wants women to meet is seen as shameful for them, even if they don't want to admit it and even if they are deeply attracted to a woman who doesn't meet some of that criteria. even if they aren't bothered by it, they get concerned about how others will start to question their masculinity. very pathetic, but there are plenty of men who have broken free from this pathetic behavior.
that was a bit of a separate rant, lol sorry.
a lot of people are shit, but there are many cis men out there who would be more than willing to have a relationship with you. i've talked with a ton of cishet dudes who have had relationships and deep feelings for trans women, and they weren't weird about it at all.

lol, this post hit really close to home tbh. i'm ftm and i've completely given up on the concept that i could have any sort of relationship with a man who is genuinely attracted to me AND sees me as a male, lol. our situations are a bit different, but i understand some of your worries.
good luck on your journey, though. i think you'll be okay in this regard. stay safe and be careful, sorry i kinda yapped.
 
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