is being ugly is enough of a reason to CTB?

[HopeIess]

is being ugly is enough of a reason to CTB?

im 23, never had a gf, not a single girl expressed any desire towards me... and the thing i hate the most is when people say that being ugly is a choice, like sure i can change my haircut and grow a beard but the bones in my face will not change their shape... maybe if you are ugly because you are unkempt of poorly groomed that might work, but if the bones in your face/body are not shaped in the correct way you are fucked, your life will be miserable, people will treat you badly just for existing.

seeing other people living romantics relationships while i can't is the worst thing ever, the only solution if not going out of my house and pretend that everybody else lives like me... that makes me feel a little bit better.

 

[hati793]

We have option to ctb
Option is there so we can exercise it.

Reason is subjective.

You have to ask yourself and choose.

Imo living under partial slavery is biggest reason to ctb.

Everyone is living under partial slavery, we don not have our share of land to grow food and live and only way is to fight, those who rule can only rule bcoz they made stupid decision to fight and won. A whole lot of them died while trying to win also enduring suffering on the way.

Best way is to ctb and not suffer.

 

[PainWorseThanDeath]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, my friend.

One man's trash is another man's treasure, and vice versa.

Could it be possible that you're basing your worth on an erroneous notion of what life is like for others, and not being open to the possibility that society has crammed your head full of negative bullshit.

Btw... if you can't love and appreciate yourself without a girlfriend, you're not going to have much luck getting one. It took me far too long to grasp this concept... you have to love yourself first in life, otherwise you're setting yourself up for disaster. Do not base yourself worth on the opinions and approval of others, it's guaranteed to leave you worse off than you were when you begin, should you find even a moments relief. Please take my advice on this.

Let me save you great suffering. Work on you, and literally everything else will fall into place. You have to be what it is you want to attract in life.

 

[pechaberry]

You could always try gym and plastic surgery first? You get one shot at life might as well throw as much as you've got at the wall before you kill yourself?

 

[Captive_Mind515]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, my friend.

One man's trash is another man's treasure, and vice versa.

Could it be possible that you're basing your worth on an erroneous notion of what life is like for others, and not being open to the possibility that society has crammed your head full of negative bullshit.

Btw... if you can't love and appreciate yourself without a girlfriend, you're not going to have much luck getting one. It took me far too long to grasp this concept... you have to love yourself first in life, otherwise you're setting yourself up for disaster. Do not base yourself worth on the opinions and approval of others, it's guaranteed to leave you worse off than you were when you begin, should you find even a moments relief. Please take my advice on this.

Let me save you great suffering. Work on you, and literally everything else will fall into place. You have to be what it is you want to attract in life.

I really hate this type of toxic positivity garbage, where you're forced to deny objective reality in order to achieve some delusional form of contentment. And the gaslighting involved in the process.

Yes, being ugly is a genuine reason to ctb. If it bothers you that much, and you're not willing to just tolerate it. Genetics are a very real thing, and many people hit the genetic jackpot while others are left to feed off scraps on the ground… maybe if we didn't live in such a hyper superficial world filled with with narcissists and attention whores who use their genetics to secure better life outcomes…

But we do, and it's only getting worse in the social media era… so no point burying your head in the sand about things.

 

[PainWorseThanDeath]

I really hate this type of toxic positivity garbage, where you're forced to deny objective reality in order to achieve some delusional form of contentment. And the gaslighting involved in the process.

Yes, being ugly is a genuine reason to ctb. If it bothers you that much, and you're not willing to just tolerate it. Genetics are a very real thing, and many people hit the genetic jackpot while others are left to feed off scraps on the ground… maybe if we didn't live in such a hyper superficial world filled with with narcissists and attention whores who use their genetics to secure better life outcomes…

But we do, and it's only getting worse in the social media era… so no point burying your head in the sand about things.

I can tell you're way blackpilled on that incel shit.

What this is, is self-fulfilling prophecy LOL

Let me tell you something... I was the skinniest, most rejected, pickdx on little nerd all my life...

But one thing I've never been is bitter at the world for it. That's why love has found me time and again.

You will get what you put out in life. You have to be someone people are attracted to, and it's way beyond just skin deep.

Shit LOL that's the least meaningful thing if you want something to last LOL

Male loneliness is a "shoot yourself in the foot" epidemic LOL

Beauty is subjective.

Ask someone beautiful and ugly mean, and you're going to get different answers from everyone. That's why this kind of mentality is shit. Erroneous thinking. Erroneous, injurious thinking.

 

[eatantz]

Yes, I think if you're willing to die over it then its clearly a big enough problem. It's also how I feel.

 

[starboy2k]

Any reason is a reason to ctb.

 

[makebelieve]

Yes, being ugly puts you into a disadvantage compared to the average person and you will deal with unfair treatment from society.

 

[HopeIess]

You could always try gym and plastic surgery first? You get one shot at life might as well throw as much as you've got at the wall before you kill yourself?

i've been going to the gym for years but a good physique cant make up for an ugly face... plastic surgery is super expensive and carries some risks... the point is that i dont have one flaw (like the nose) that you can fix easily with plastic surgery, i have multiple flaws in my face and im also not very tall... i would probably need hundreds of thousand of dollars to reach an "acceptable level", and maybe i will get that in my late 20s after having lost the best years... is that really worth it?

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, my friend.

One man's trash is another man's treasure, and vice versa.

Could it be possible that you're basing your worth on an erroneous notion of what life is like for others, and not being open to the possibility that society has crammed your head full of negative bullshit.

Btw... if you can't love and appreciate yourself without a girlfriend, you're not going to have much luck getting one. It took me far too long to grasp this concept... you have to love yourself first in life, otherwise you're setting yourself up for disaster. Do not base yourself worth on the opinions and approval of others, it's guaranteed to leave you worse off than you were when you begin, should you find even a moments relief. Please take my advice on this.

Let me save you great suffering. Work on you, and literally everything else will fall into place. You have to be what it is you want to attract in life.

no, beauty is the same for everybody. There some personal preference but generally speaking everybody can tell if someone has a "good dna" just by looking at them... symmetry, height, dimorphic traits...
yeah you can find somebody who will settle for you eventually and maybe you are settling for them too and you are not even going be attracted to each other and both of you will end up lusting after somebody else.

 

[PanaxMan]

is being ugly is enough of a reason to CTB?

im 23, never had a gf, not a single girl expressed any desire towards me... and the thing i hate the most is when people say that being ugly is a choice, like sure i can change my haircut and grow a beard but the bones in my face will not change their shape... maybe if you are ugly because you are unkempt of poorly groomed that might work, but if the bones in your face/body are not shaped in the correct way you are fucked, your life will be miserable, people will treat you badly just for existing.

seeing other people living romantics relationships while i can't is the worst thing ever, the only solution if not going out of my house and pretend that everybody else lives like me... that makes me feel a little bit better.

Sure. I mean I'm ugly right now but I have decent genes (for a Asian guy) I know that I could get a woman (maybe not a serious one) if I ever decided to rush towards that goal. But I'm not even able to take a first step towards starting a life anyway so it won't matter

 

[PainWorseThanDeath]

Any reason is a reason to ctb.

I believe this is the most accurate answer on this thread. I mean ffs some people throw themselves off a bridge just because they're having one too many bad days in a row. It's not any one particular thing for some people, it's just being fed up with life as a whole.

Not terminally ill. Not even ctb depressed.... just... fed up. People sick of being stuck in traffic have jumped off of bridges, etc

Reasons can be very highly individualistic. I mean for fuck sake, I once to tried to ctb because I quit a job that I hated anyway. In fact... I'm the one that skipped work, and went for a weekend-long party/rave in New Orleans, and told them I was quitting.

I got back and was like "well... fuck. LOL now what? Just had the best weekend of my life, don't have a job to go to... idk, might as well just KMS!" the fuck? LOL

I still look back on that attempt and laugh at myself. I mean.. it wasn't really funny, because I almost destroyed my liver, and had to have my stomach pumped with charcoal, which fucking sucks... so it definitely wasn't funny in the moment.. but in retrospect...

Lol yeah... pretty fucking silly

i've been going to the gym for years but a good physique cant make up for an ugly face... plastic surgery is super expensive and carries some risks... the point is that i dont have one flaw (like the nose) that you can fix easily with plastic surgery, i have multiple flaws in my face and im also not very tall... i would probably need hundreds of thousand of dollars to reach an "acceptable level", and maybe i will get that in my late 20s after having lost the best years... is that really worth it?

no, beauty is the same for everybody. There some personal preference but generally speaking everybody can tell if someone has a "good dna" just by looking at them... symmetry, height, dimorphic traits...
yeah you can find somebody who will settle for you eventually and maybe you are settling for them too and you are not even going be attracted to each other and both of you will end up lusting after somebody else.

It's a very shallow and black pilled perspective my guy.

What kind of content are you consuming?

Listen to what I'm saying.. if you believe this way... if you truly feel this way and carry yourself this way, you were only going to come across other people that think like you. You're not going to attract people that are looking for the beauty inside.

Outer beauty is meaningless, it doesn't last. This is why half of all marriages or more end in divorce. This is why the majority of all relationships as a whole fail. Wrong priorities. People get old, even the most quote unquote beautiful person is going to become "ugly."

Then what have you got? Nothing.

It's better to concentrate on more worthwhile and meaningful things. Believe me, beauty is fleeting. Time only goes one direction, friend.

Question... are you consuming toxically masculine looksmaxxer manosphere content?

If you are, please don't.. stop, and talk to some of the other women here, we won't lie to you.

Most women, and especially the kind that make for good girlfriends.. the kind you actually want to settle down with are not attracted to this kind of man, and are rather disgusted by their behavior.

Using them for role models will guarantee that you wind up alone. Best case, you will have many shallow interactions by people that just want to use you.. and that is truly a best case scenario by using these people, as a template.

People find their own kind in life. Like attracts like. What people put out is what they draw in. If you listen to shallow, vapid, self-conscious men... that is exactly what you will draw to you.... and you will find that you wind up even worse off than you were when you began.

It doesn't lead to happiness. I'm saying that from experience. I used to chase looks in myself, and everybody else.. then I realized nobody wanted anything from me but my body. Shit sucked... it made me even more suicidal, knowing that after everything I put myself through people just wanted me in bed and that was it. Never to stay the night. Yeah, fuck that.

 

[finaldestination22]

As a man you should never look to CTB because you're ugly ever. If you have chronic health issues or other serious conditions idk up to you because being weak as man(psysically) it's very hard you basically have your wings cut off.

As a man the only thing you should look for is success . That's all. Be the best in what you like and the rest will follow. I fell into this bs trap due to my borderline and weak mental state and only too late I realised that it was all a bs mentality to have.

A man will always be loved conditionally and there is one thing that both men and women respects no matter what: statut and power.
Looking to be ''pretty" as a man is a disease of our age. Sure let's be real too being a 6ft handsome man it makes your life easier to socialise and get dates but it does not guarantee you a wonderful life. Big difference. You just get bored less but you might still end working for someone else and have plenty of toxic relationships.