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NotSoEnchanted

NotSoEnchanted

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Dec 26, 2025
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Not only do they want to go after SN, they want to go after this site. For once I'm grateful that I live in the U.S. Seems like the U.K is really cracking down on SN, given the recent influx of welfare checks triggered by ordering from DSL, paired with this new article + all the research they've been doing
 
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2muchpain2

2muchpain2

Experienced
Feb 27, 2025
242
Not only do they want to go after SN, they want to go after this site. For once I'm grateful that I live in the U.S. Seems like the U.K is really cracking down on SN, given the recent influx of welfare checks triggered by ordering from DSL, paired with this new article + all the research they've been doing
I'm in the US too and I think I've heard sn is impossible to obtain even here now. I haven't tried, but it's what I've heard. They want to take away all of our methods, it's crazy.
 
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Phyreen

Member
Dec 13, 2025
7
Not only do they want to go after SN, they want to go after this site. For once I'm grateful that I live in the U.S. Seems like the U.K is really cracking down on SN, given the recent influx of welfare checks triggered by ordering from DSL, paired with this new article + all the research they've been doing
I'm in the UK, and I'm probably gonna ctb soon. Idk about SN, but I'm gonna go by helium asphyxiation. Getting the stuff for that wasn't all too difficult, so I guess that path is still open, if it helps anybody. I could never go by hanging or jumping, so I'm glad I have what I have.
 
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Rihan

Rihan

Looking for courage of the heart
Jan 11, 2026
50
This world is a literal prison. They are upset when we escape.
 
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NotSoEnchanted

NotSoEnchanted

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Dec 26, 2025
161
I'm in the US too and I think I've heard sn is impossible to obtain even here now. I haven't tried, but it's what I've heard. They want to take away all of our methods, it's crazy.
I received my SN from DSL this month, so I think it's still accessible to the U.S as of now. I believe the only way to obtain it is through DSL, as all other sources only deliver to businesses and such now
 
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BradGuy123

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Jul 6, 2025
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There was a bill introduced to ban the sale of it to individuals in the USA. Youth Poisoning Act. Google this and SB 2233. It's against the rules to post links. So far it hasn't gotten very far.
 
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cappuccinogirl

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Aug 11, 2018
247
I received my SN from DSL this month, so I think it's still accessible to the U.S as of now. I believe the only way to obtain it is through DSL, as all other sources only deliver to businesses and such now
Hi what's DSL please? Thanks x
 
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squiddedoutt

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DeathSweetDeath

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Nov 12, 2025
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I received my SN from DSL this month, so I think it's still accessible to the U.S as of now. I believe the only way to obtain it is through DSL, as all other sources only deliver to businesses and such now
This is limited to the sources that you have knowledge of.
I'm in the US too and I think I've heard sn is impossible to obtain even here now. I haven't tried, but it's what I've heard. They want to take away all of our methods, it's crazy.
Not impossible yet. There are still several sources.
 
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witchcraft

witchcraft

it's too painful to live but I'm too afraid to die
Nov 27, 2024
162
Just thinking out loud... my mind is rather preoccupied with trying to figure out: is it better for the wardens of this prison (as another user aptly called it) to ban such substances, or to allow people to leave if they want to leave?

I'm not a vegan, but similarly I wonder: if cows had opposable thumbs, if all livestock had our awareness and intelligence, would they not also want to CTB? This would be bad for the farmer, of course, for there'd be nobody to milk. But then again, aggressive chickens are intentionally culled, taken out of the gene pool.

Wouldn't the elites want a nice, docile, content, "own nothing and happy" domesticated society? Why would they want to propagate malcontent by making it even more difficult for the malcontent to leave? Wouldn't it be better for the elites to allow assisted suicide so they can just be left with a population of people who are content with being abused and taking advantage of? Isn't that their end-goal?

I won't go further because I'm starting to get into territory that was horrifyingly explored in, ahem, the 1940s. To be clear, all I'm trying to say is that I really do not understand what the logic is here, what's the plan for all these struggling people. I have read numerous threads here where people share their main reason or top three reasons for wanting to CTB, and many of them do not seem to have issues that could be genuinely resolved by talking to a therapist and taking some soma.

In my case, there is no pill that cures wageslavery, no vaccine against it. So why do things that leads to a disgruntled, unproductive workforce, either because they are taxed in order to support NEETs like me, or because very unhappy people like me are employed? This might not be the argument that I think it is; don't want to give any more ideas to the masters. I already know they want automation because robots don't complain and they can work more than 40 hours a week.
 
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Nerned

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Mar 2, 2026
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These people are psychopaths. They'd rather no exit over and they'd rather we suffer more.
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
15,319
Just thinking out loud... my mind is rather preoccupied with trying to figure out: is it better for the wardens of this prison (as another user aptly called it) to ban such substances, or to allow people to leave if they want to leave?

I'm not a vegan, but similarly I wonder: if cows had opposable thumbs, if all livestock had our awareness and intelligence, would they not also want to CTB? This would be bad for the farmer, of course, for there'd be nobody to milk. But then again, aggressive chickens are intentionally culled, taken out of the gene pool.

Wouldn't the elites want a nice, docile, content, "own nothing and happy" domesticated society? Why would they want to propagate malcontent by making it even more difficult for the malcontent to leave? Wouldn't it be better for the elites to allow assisted suicide so they can just be left with a population of people who are content with being abused and taking advantage of? Isn't that their end-goal?

I won't go further because I'm starting to get into territory that was horrifyingly explored in, ahem, the 1940s. To be clear, all I'm trying to say is that I really do not understand what the logic is here, what's the plan for all these struggling people. I have read numerous threads here where people share their main reason or top three reasons for wanting to CTB, and many of them do not seem to have issues that could be genuinely resolved by talking to a therapist and taking some soma.

In my case, there is no pill that cures wageslavery, no vaccine against it. So why do things that leads to a disgruntled, unproductive workforce, either because they are taxed in order to support NEETs like me, or because very unhappy people like me are employed? This might not be the argument that I think it is; don't want to give any more ideas to the masters. I already know they want automation because robots don't complain and they can work more than 40 hours a week.

I agree with your reasoning as to why it would seem to make sense for our money fixated governments- to let the non productive suicidal go. However- not all people who are suicidal are non productive- for one.

The bigger problem though- as I see it, is their parents. Will they truly not mind if their offspring's suicide wasn't prevented? I imagine they would be up in arms.

So- the government effectively- isn't even going against popular opinion. Surely- it's actually the majority of people who want to keep their loved ones and friends alive? Whether they contribute to society or not.

If the idea is to tackle the problem at source- reproduction rights. How can we even know whether would- be parents will produce offspring that is docile, compliant and productive or rebellious or unable to work? I'm assuming the majority of people who are NEET here have parents who do work. How else are they being taken care of?

As depressing as it is to acknowledge, those who don't work because of illness etc. also generate the need for medical professionals, pharmaceuticals etc. Think of how much money our governments receive from big pharma. One way or another- they find a way to make money.
 
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witchcraft

it's too painful to live but I'm too afraid to die
Nov 27, 2024
162
I agree with your reasoning as to why it would seem to make sense for our money fixated governments- to let the non productive suicidal go. However- not all people who are suicidal are non productive- for one.

The bigger problem though- as I see it, is their parents. Will they truly not mind if their offspring's suicide wasn't prevented? I imagine they would be up in arms.

So- the government effectively- isn't even going against popular opinion. Surely- it's actually the majority of people who want to keep their loved ones and friends alive? Whether they contribute to society or not.

If the idea is to tackle the problem at source- reproduction rights. How can we even know whether would- be parents will produce offspring that is docile, compliant and productive or rebellious or unable to work? I'm assuming the majority of people who are NEET here have parents who do work. How else are they being taken care of?

As depressing as it is to acknowledge, those who don't work because of illness etc. also generate the need for medical professionals, pharmaceuticals etc. Think of how much money our governments receive from big pharma. One way or another- they find a way to make money.

All excellent insights, thank you for sharing. This gives me more to think about.

In any case. It strikes me as absurd to take away options and to not supplant them with solutions or make any attempt to address even just a single reason why some people are so depressed.

I wonder how many will CTB sooner than perhaps they'd initially planned from this news. I digress, sorry to hear for the people impacted.
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
15,319
All excellent insights, thank you for sharing. This gives me more to think about.

In any case. It strikes me as absurd to take away options and to not supplant them with solutions or make any attempt to address even just a single reason why some people are so depressed.

I absolutely agree with you. It's actually cruel to just ignore why people feel this way and simultaneously- deny them means of escaping. I imagine that comes down to money too though.

I imagine preventing or limiting suicide is cheaper than injecting all that money into health and social services. Or creating widespread reform to make work places more positive etc.
 
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madameviolette

madameviolette

Another Big Pharma victim
Oct 9, 2025
567
Is this not the reason for the recent uptick of members on this site ? Few days ago we had something like 17 000 members online
 
Crash_Bash_Dash

Crash_Bash_Dash

Nothing what I used to be
Apr 23, 2024
122
They (government representatives etc.) want us to suffer in this painful existence. That's all they want, to torture, rape mentally and laugh behind the closed doors about it. They can boast about these measures taken to prevent suicide and polish their public image with how they prevent "miserable fates" from happening but actually create opposite outcome for unfathomable and massive number of individuals who struggle mentally and physically daily who basically want out of this hollow existence.

It's just unbearable to witness in general how cruel, unfair and totalitarian they can be towards a layman in every possible way who struggles in the very system they create, maintain and hold power in. And of course, almost none of what they do and/or enforce in law doesn't affect them because the system is corrupted and favors and pampers those in power. This is just sick!

I feel sometimes there should be a worldwide revolt against governments around the world because of what they do to John Doe... But would that change anything? Perhaps not, because the system/machine is already established and broken and cannot be fixed so that it would really benefit and treat everyone equally. Even in this particular case for giving people equal chance to choose if their life is worth it or not to continue at any time they want in their lives.

Sorry for the rant, I just wanted to let this out of my chest!
 

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