Discussion If you were happy could you ignore the suffering in the world?

[rationaltake]

It seems to me that certain individuals are privileged enough to live relatively happy lives. They have caring parents and economic security. With this secure base a lot of them manage to enjoy life. They have careers and properties. They travel and study. They find meaning in being alive.

On the whole it seems people like this have no concept of the suffering endured by people in adverse circumstances.

I don't think I'd be aware of the suffering of others if I were in a privileged position.

 

[sharky]

I think I would be aware, but ignoring it would be way easier if you are happy and have a busy day to day life. But being privileged doesn't mean you're happy. You can be privileged and have meaning in life and friends and still suffer depression etc.

 

[rationaltake]

But being privileged doesn't mean you're happy. You can be privileged and have meaning in life and friends and still suffer depression etc.

I agree.

 

[Al_stargate]

That goes into question is empathy something we develop in life through experiences or are we humans born with a level of empathy and compassion already ingrained in us. I personally think it's both, it's important how a person develops their character, either with good intentions or they let greed, anger, and ego take over.

 

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[mundanejane]

it would definetly be easier to do

 

[Symbiote]

Yes, as much as the outside world sucks, there's nothing I can do about it except make changes around my inner circle. If I'm unhappy, I'm useless to everything.

 

[FuneralCry]

I could never imagine myself being happy no matter what happened. To me, if someone wants to live in a world filled with so much suffering then they must be delusional. Even if things are going well for someone right now, all that could quickly change. Life is very cruel and unfair after all. The truth is that life is very depressing. Just the fact that so much pain exists is enough to make me want to die. To me, it would feel wrong to be happy when others are suffering.

 

[rationaltake]

I could never imagine myself being happy no matter what happened. To me, if someone wants to live in a world filled with so much suffering then they must be delusional. Even if things are going well for someone right now, all that could quickly change. Life is very cruel and unfair after all. The truth is that life is very depressing. Just the fact that so much pain exists is enough to make me want to die. To me, it would feel wrong to be happy when others are suffering.

I understand your point of view.

 

[eyeroller]

The very reason life has become unbearable is because the people around me live in bubble and their lives revolve about what they can gain.

The simple joys in life is helping others out. Even teaching them what I am good at (art) or sharing and working with others instead of competing or pursuing materialism.

 

[Foresight]

I have never ignored it even as a child but I could reason with the suffering in the world while I existed. My personal suffering is why I am suicidal. I'd be lying if I said it was because of the general suffering in this world. The only time I feel that is when I think about animal agriculture.

 

[Journeytoletgo]

Yes although I still had depression, I still wasn't aware of the horrors of this world until after 23. Lived a pretty sheltered life, ignorance is bliss as they would say.

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

Easily. When I'm happy and getting my way, other people inevitably have to suffer in order to fuel that. It's why I can't be allowed to be happy.

 

[Aeathelina]

Probably, in some ways I hate that I feel and see to much of the misery in the world because it just further pulls me down

 

[HappyForever?]

Probably. I'm just a normie who is here because of my genes.

 

[Pain In The Ass]

It seems to me that certain individuals are privileged enough to live relatively happy lives. They have caring parents and economic security. With this secure base a lot of them manage to enjoy life. They have careers and properties. They travel and study. They find meaning in being alive.

On the whole it seems people like this have no concept of the suffering endured by people in adverse circumstances.

I don't think I'd be aware of the suffering of others if I were in a privileged position.

I could probably just ignore it. If I had no rent/mortgage, only worked a few hours a day, had lots of time to make music, I could just bury my head in the sand and love my life, if I was pain-free of course.

I think it's just as alien for me to try to imagine feeling that I could genuinely be prime minister, or run a national newspaper, or own a private jet and yacht - I can't imagine how it would feel to believe that those kinds of things are a possibility for me. But lots of kids who go to Oxford or Cambridge believe that they could do those things if they wanted.

 

[CrossroadsCurious]

Shhh, come here.... I got a secret for you...

Ignoring all the pain & suffering in the world is how you get happiness.

For most things, if it doesn't directly affect me or mine, I don't give a flying fuck. And I'm all the happier for it.

You're welcome...

 

[SuicidallyCurious]

Only one way I could do this

Would have to live a rural and low tech lifestyle. The thought of email , television , and etc. wouldn't be there.

This is sort of a dream but impractical nowadays because you always have to pay the property tax. Self sufficiency is hard , you're always part of the globalist criminal system.

Definitely wouldn't want to do this alone and most people out there aren't willing to be fully committed to being preppers / low tech

 

[Sslsh]

Yes.

 

[Slimetae]

I mean I ain't happy but even if I was I'd still know there's nothing i can really do about things that happen outside of my control so that's how I see it .

 

[Zegers]

It seems to me that certain individuals are privileged enough to live relatively happy lives. They have caring parents and economic security. With this secure base a lot of them manage to enjoy life. They have careers and properties. They travel and study. They find meaning

Right and i compare all the time with this people because i wish it was me in some way. why they can enjoy and i have to ctb to find some peace? who knows.

The world is not an ideal place but I believe that if you can change your life, everything can get better, the problem is when you can't do it because you have some frequent problems (health, stuck in poverty, loneliness) I think most of the ctb people want to live but we can't in certain way.

 

[WorthlessTrash]

Yes.

 

[demuic]

I wouldn't want to if I could. It is because this is the mindset of the vast majority of people that all kinds of suffering continues to occur.

 

[Niko66]

I don't know if I ever could, perhaps so but every since a young age I've been so disenchanted with the systems in place leading our lives, with the injustices of the world.
But if I was happy I would most certainly bear it much more easily.

 

[Fadeawaaaay]

It's possible to shut out the suffering of the world if one exists within their own bubble… But eventually the suffering catches up to you one way or another…

 

[motel rooms]

It seems to me that certain individuals are privileged enough to live relatively happy lives.

I don't think I'd be aware of the suffering of others if I were in a privileged position.

I have no idea what kind of person I'd be if I weren't me.

 

[Journeytoletgo]

I stopped paying it any attention because it made my situation worse

 

[CloseFriendofCamus]

No amount of money, fame, drugs or anything else is going to make me able to ignore all that.

I hate this world to the depths of my soul. My views are seen as extremist, but I genuinely believe that this world is beyond fucked.

To ignore the worldwide issues while you're personally happy is like drinking some tea in your house while a wounded man is leaving bloodied handprints on your window asking for help. But you don't do anything, you keep sipping your tea. You are safe and warm, why do you need to care after all.

Some people here mentioned accepting not being able to change much but I disagree. Acceptance of such cruel shit isn't alright. It causes me great pain. I don't know how one is able to ignore it or accept it. Depends on the individual l suppose.

I'm not like that at all.

 

[Fadeawaaaay]

No amount of money, fame, drugs or anything else is going to make me able to ignore all that.

I hate this world to the depths of my soul. My views are seen as extremist, but I genuinely believe that this world is beyond fucked.

To ignore the worldwide issues while you're personally happy is like drinking some tea in your house while a wounded man is leaving bloodied handprints on your window asking for help. But you don't do anything, you keep sipping your tea. You are safe and warm, why do you need to care after all.

Some people here mentioned accepting not being able to change much but I disagree. Acceptance of such cruel shit isn't alright. It causes me great pain. I don't know how one is able to ignore it or accept it. Depends on the individual l suppose.

I'm not like that at all.

To your credit, you are more alive.

 

[Pain In The Ass]

Yes. Fuck all that horrible shit going on over there!