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avalokitesvara

bodhisattva
Nov 28, 2024
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I saw a photo of a 10 year old little Palestinian girl who had had both of her arms blasted off in the war.

Imagine, really truly remember yourself when you were 10 years old. Your joy of running and jumping and climbing and playing and eating and hugging your mum and playfighting with your siblings and stroking your pets. Your growing, whole, body. Suddenly to lose all that and be left in the world without hands, without arms. Your whole entire life up to that point utterly bereft. Your complete trauma and grief. Through sheer meaningless tribal violence.

I saw a photo of a malnourished 3 year old Palestinian little boy who had had his entire family killed in the war.

Remember yourself as a helpless, innocent, trusting, brand-new person, a toddler, discovering the world, overwhelmed by everything, learning to be a person, trusting completely on your family who are your whole entire universe. One day being thrust into a grief and trauma so completely immense that you cannot even conceive of it. Imagine the heartbreak, that will never ever heal.
All of that, from sheer meaningless tribal violence.
Pointless violence. Hell being created for no reason.
This isn't a political post. I'm sure the Palestinian political forces would do the same to Israeli children given the chance. It's about the innocents of politics and wars, who are plunged into unescapable hell through sheer stupid violence.
It's about all the millions and billions of children and women and innocent men who have been tortured and beaten and maimed and amputated and orphaned and raped and blinded and burned and exploited and traumatised due to humanity's evil, stupid, violence. The creation of millions and billions of private hells. And why? Why?

I can't live in a world like this. I can't accept what people do to each other. I can't get the image of the eyes of those children out of my mind.
 
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bleeding_heart_show

Student
Dec 23, 2023
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Any other species would do the same thing were it sufficiently "advanced". Even if there was no such thing as ideology there would be other reasons for people to kill (e.g. egotistical and physiological reasons).

What really puzzles me is not killing, but the fact that people continue to bring children into the world. The only thing that seems to differentiate children from adults is how much has been inflicted on them.

Apologies for the scattershot post.
 
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enjoytheride

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Jun 29, 2025
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I saw a photo of a 10 year old little Palestinian girl who had had both of her arms blasted off in the war.

Imagine, really truly remember yourself when you were 10 years old. Your joy of running and jumping and climbing and playing and eating and hugging your mum and playfighting with your siblings and stroking your pets. Your growing, whole, body. Suddenly to lose all that and be left in the world without hands, without arms. Your whole entire life up to that point utterly bereft. Your complete trauma and grief. Through sheer meaningless tribal violence.

I saw a photo of a malnourished 3 year old Palestinian little boy who had had his entire family killed in the war.

Remember yourself as a helpless, innocent, trusting, brand-new person, a toddler, discovering the world, overwhelmed by everything, learning to be a person, trusting completely on your family who are your whole entire universe. One day being thrust into a grief and trauma so completely immense that you cannot even conceive of it. Imagine the heartbreak, that will never ever heal.
All of that, from sheer meaningless tribal violence.
Pointless violence. Hell being created for no reason.
This isn't a political post. I'm sure the Palestinian political forces would do the same to Israeli children given the chance. It's about the innocents of politics and wars, who are plunged into unescapable hell through sheer stupid violence.
It's about all the millions and billions of children and women and innocent men who have been tortured and beaten and maimed and amputated and orphaned and raped and blinded and burned and exploited and traumatised due to humanity's evil, stupid, violence. The creation of millions and billions of private hells. And why? Why?

I can't live in a world like this. I can't accept what people do to each other. I can't get the image of the eyes of those children out of my mind.
I think about this often. There are many hells on Earth created by human beings, some of them stem from ignorance, others from pure evil and hatred, and others from a mix of the two. There are also many heavens on Earth, equally created by humans - such as homeless people shelters, animal rescues, beautiful parks, art galleries, hospitals where those suffering find care and relief, and so on.

Maybe a reason for hope is that in the past decades, more than ever, humanity has been fighting against its own vices and evils. Legislation to end forced labour and human trafficking has been adopted in different countries around the world. There are hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of NGOs working towards alleviating the suffering of people and animals and making this a better place for all. Compare that to what it was like 300 or 400 hundred years ago - slavery, no International humanitarian law, no mass media reporting on abuses, no International courts (no matter how imperfect they are today), etc.

So it is strange that one can find reasons to despair, but with an equal amount of effort one can find reasons for hope.
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
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Any other species would do the same thing were it sufficiently "advanced". Even if there was no such thing as ideology there would be other reasons for people to kill (e.g. egotistical and physiological reasons).

What really puzzles me is not killing, but the fact that people continue to bring children into the world. The only thing that seems to differentiate children from adults is how much has been inflicted on them.

Apologies for the scattershot post.

I also agree with this. Sadly, most 'advanced' living creatures are so motivated to survive, they will do so at the cost of obliterating everything else. Disturbingly, some of the most intelligent species eg. chimps and orcas also display sadistic traits. Killing for sport, to exert dominance, for practice, for the thrill of it- it seems.

I also agree regarding natilism. I was born in comparatively safe circumstances. My Mum still died when I was 3. My life took a deeper nose dive when my Dad remarried. I don't think being born somewhere (comparatively) safe necessarily guarantees a life free from harm. It's the simple reality that, bringing sentient life here puts them at the risk of harm.

I do agree though OP. Wars just sicken me. I just think we're such a dumb species to do this to one another. But then, I don't know what the solution is. Agree worldwide to a total ceasefire forever? What happens when some arsehole breaks it? What do we do to them? What if a leader decides they want a bit of land or, resources owned by someone else? What do we do to bullies? It just feels like an impossible situation.

So again, I agree with @bleeding_heart_show , if we can see the world is f*cked up and, we can't change it, why bring innocent children into it in the first place?
 

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