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how the fuck do you find the motivation and the courage for suicide?
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That's totally alright. I sincerely appreciate you responding and also being honest that you aren't sure. And I'm sure they other info you provided will be helpful to others.
I just have one follow up question and I'll stop bothering you. And just to reiterate, I appreciate you responding.
In regards to methemoglobinemia, is this going to cause "air hunger" or a "feeling of suffocation"? Truthfully, this is the one that frightens me the most, if that's the case.
I personally can rationalize the other symptoms (vomiting, abdominal pain, seizure activity, headache, etc).
No, thats what makes low oxygen environments so dangerous. The feeling of suffocation comes from the inability to expel CO2. When you hold your breath, its not the lack of oxygen that causes you to feel like you are suffocating. Its that buildup of CO2. In a low oxygen environments, you dont feel like you are suffocating because the CO2 is being expelled but you become hypoxemic which causes the other symptoms although you may just black out before then. Thats why I looked into the nitrogen method. As long as the bag has enough space to retain CO2 without you inhaling it back in, you shouldnt get the feeling of suffocation. Its actually kinda weird because people with COPD become desensitized to elevated levels of CO2 in their blood so they transition to O2 dependent breathing. Its actually dangerous to give them too much oxygen because their respiratory rate will slow down and they will retain CO2 (hypercapnic) and end up with symptoms similar to hypoxemia. We use bipap for them which allows CO2 to be blown off more effectively.
I do worry about ingesting or IVing then regretting and not being able to reverse it. Sort of like how people that survive jumping say they regretted it the whole way down and realized they could fix things. I feel like several of the suicide survivors that do the support circuits are jumpers, not a causation just something I noticed.
No, thats what makes low oxygen environments so dangerous. The feeling of suffocation comes from the inability to expel CO2. When you hold your breath, its not the lack of oxygen that causes you to feel like you are suffocating. Its that buildup of CO2. In a low oxygen environments, you dont feel like you are suffocating because the CO2 is being expelled but you become hypoxemic which causes the other symptoms although you may just black out before then. Thats why I looked into the nitrogen method. As long as the bag has enough space to retain CO2 without you inhaling it back in, you shouldnt get the feeling of suffocation. Its actually kinda weird because people with COPD become desensitized to elevated levels of CO2 in their blood so they transition to O2 dependent breathing. Its actually dangerous to give them too much oxygen because their respiratory rate will slow down and they will retain CO2 (hypercapnic) and end up with symptoms similar to hypoxemia. We use bipap for them which allows CO2 to be blown off more effectively.
I do worry about ingesting or IVing then regretting and not being able to reverse it. Sort of like how people that survive jumping say they regretted it the whole way down and realized they could fix things. I feel like several of the suicide survivors that do the support circuits are jumpers, not a causation just something I noticed.
Eh you could keep naloxone on deck. Its pretty easy to get because opioid overdoses are so common. One caveat though, its not an automatic antidote and you will want to die. Some opioids are long lasting and require continuous application of the drug before they wear off. Naloxone also competes with the body's natural opioids that it releases. These keep you desensitized to small amounts of pain and discomfort. You will likely be hypersensitive to any pain or discomfort should you choose to use it. We have people who overdose proceed to completely freak out sometimes after naloxone is administered.
No problem! That being said even though I'm in a similar state to everyone here I don't suggest any method. I don't want anyone hurting themselves but I don't want anyone causing themselves unnecessary pain and suffering either should they choose to ctb.
No problem! That being said even though I'm in a similar state to everyone here I don't suggest any method. I don't want anyone hurting themselves but I don't want anyone causing themselves unnecessary pain and suffering either should they choose to ctb.
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