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maelie

maelie

Maelie
Dec 3, 2025
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I just had a visit from psychiatric services after ordering from DSL. They seemed to know it was SN from U* and that it was being sent to my address, but they did not know when it was ordered or how much. I haven't told anyone about this so I'm confused how they have this information?

I denied everything and said I didn't know anything about it because I was caught of guard since it hadn't left origin country yet.

Im guessing it got flagged in origin country and then passed on to services here. Does that mean the package is likely compromised? I checked the tracking today and it says it has passed through customs despite this.

Im unsure what to do now I feel really shaken and paranoid about this I managed to avoid hospitalization and convince them i was okay.
 
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knowledgeseeking

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That completely sucks. I'm so sorry this is happened to you. I assuming you're in the UK because they have been showing up to everyone that orders from him.

As far as the package goes, I think you're just going to have to wait and see. I know that has to just add to your anxiety. Ugh.
 
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chudcell

chudcell

BPD + attachment issues :/
Feb 20, 2026
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Ceasing to exist would be peaceful. Why cant they leave us to ctb? This painful, cruel existence, is something I wish to be free from.
 
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maelie

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Dec 3, 2025
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That completely sucks. I'm so sorry this is happened to you. I assuming you're in the UK because they have been showing up to everyone that orders from him.

As far as the package goes, I think you're just going to have to wait and see. I know that has to just add to your anxiety. Ugh.
I'm in NZ, but thank you i don't really know what else to do now, so I guess I just have to wait and see :/
 
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knowledgeseeking

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Apr 5, 2025
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I'm in NZ, but thank you i don't really know what else to do now, so I guess I just have to wait and see :/
I hope it shows up. It seems like a lot of countries are cracking down on their shipments.
 
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Dontwant2Bhere

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Apr 1, 2026
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We don't actually know that.
Agreed, since "peacefulness" is a relative term, which requires prior experience of something "non peaceful" to compare it to. Which a dead brain would not have memory of the painful times to compare it to. And heck, if death wasn't somehow permanent, and you *only* experienced peacefulness forever afterwards, it wouldn't be felt as peaceful, but as intensely boring and unchanging! Forever!

...But that's all a moot point anyways, since we don't get to experience what if "feels" like to be anything in any state once we're dead anyways.. Feeling requires the organ responsible for receiving and translating the sensory and electrical input to still be functioning. Death means that isn't happening.

Which makes me sad, because all of these people longing for peace (even I have longed for "peace" in death, before I actually thought about it and realized what actually will happen) are literally just going to be experiencing their final moments of catching the bus, and then nothing... It'll peak with the most uncomfortable part of the process—but no peace ever reached, lol... Literally. 😢! Don't CTB for the sake of peace; if I were going to do it, it'd be because of pain and *absolute genuine hopelessness*, which is rare, but does exist.

Ah well. At least there's other reasons to CTB than just peace. Like to avoid massive amounts of pain and suffering (cancer, death of entire family, ancient times where they would CTB to avoid slaughter and torture from raiders/enemy forces, etc etc). Which even that can't be felt after death either (the escape from awful circumstances). It just sucks that one can't experience that fact that it's over, and that the "bad stuff being over" has to be earned through fear and misery from dying (happens in all deaths, to some extent)—and that's the whole experience. No peace or satisfaction ever felt! Lol. Reality is absurd. In so, so many ways.

At least we (well, most of us) get to avoid going out the way pretty much all animals do (and practically all humans used to, up until the last 100 years or so): getting torn into pieces, or being eaten alive by packs of predators, or getting squashed by something way bigger than oneself/etc, etc, etc...

Hell, even for humans before 100 years ago, the best death you could expect naturally (can't really count heart attacks—sudden death from heart problems becomes super rare the further back in time you go, because most people died young while their hearts were still healthy) was probably cancer, infection or disease. Unless you consider being viciously murdered by humans or other animals as being better than the other options...?

I mean I guess dying as an infant doesn't *seem* as bad as these other options either. But that can't be verified. Just because we don't remember our early years doesn't mean we don't feel everything we do when we're older. lol. Like OBVIOUSLY. But maybe it wouldn't be as bad (hopefully) since it happened CONSTANTLY. Well over 50% of kids didn't make it to age 4 or 5. So effectively, 50% (number might be higher even, actually) of all humans died before age 4-5.

So I'd say even with everything being relative, I'd still pick the final moments of suffering nowadays, from the modern forms of CTB'ing (or most forms of death happening in hospitals, for sure) VASTLY, over *any* of the ways humans and animals died in the past; being able to feel peace after the fact or not be damned!

Edit: sorry this post was so long and off topic, lol... Super overtired. Time to head to bed 😴...

Double edit: I guess after thinking about it more, there absolutely WAS a peaceful way to go in ancient times, that would be fairly easy to pull off: starvation!

All you'd have to do is not hunt/scavenge, and you'd be set! ...As long as you had the strength to fight off predators trying to make use of your newly weakened body, lol...

And I doubt if you were in a group they'd be super happy about someone being dead weight and not contributing. Death was so common then, that I have no doubt they'd be easily willing to let you starve if you were suicidal.

Weirdly, suicide is super duper rare in ancient times, or in jungle tribes of hunter gatherers. Depression doesn't really exist in those contexts. It's a purely modern day civilized world phenomena. So I doubt anyone was willingly starving themselves.
 
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fightclub17

Hopefully ctb on the 9th of April
Mar 3, 2026
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Did you message them on whatsapp? I'm paranoid now.
 
bpd_sucks

bpd_sucks

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Feb 26, 2022
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why must we be kept in hell? why is it their problem? most of us are here because of the society we don't fit in that never wanted us in the first place
 
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Rainbow9

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Does anyone know if these wellness checks happen only in the UK or stretch to Ireland and the rest of Europe?
 
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uklad38

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Mar 27, 2026
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Hoping to order in next few weeks to Ireland so hoping this doesn't extend to there
 
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houseofleaves

how's life treating ya?
Jan 14, 2022
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suicide is super duper rare in ancient times, or in jungle tribes of hunter gatherers. Depression doesn't really exist in those contexts. It's a purely modern day civilized world phenomena.
I have too little energy for an actual discission which also would be off topic, but basically this is kinda wrong.
 
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SentientCreature

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Agreed, since "peacefulness" is a relative term, which requires prior experience of something "non peaceful" to compare it to. Which a dead brain would not have memory of the painful times to compare it to. And heck, if death wasn't somehow permanent, and you *only* experienced peacefulness forever afterwards, it wouldn't be felt as peaceful, but as intensely boring and unchanging! Forever!

...But that's all a moot point anyways, since we don't get to experience what if "feels" like to be anything in any state once we're dead anyways.. Feeling requires the organ responsible for receiving and translating the sensory and electrical input to still be functioning. Death means that isn't happening.

Which makes me sad, because all of these people longing for peace (even I have longed for "peace" in death, before I actually thought about it and realized what actually will happen) are literally just going to be experiencing their final moments of catching the bus, and then nothing... It'll peak with the most uncomfortable part of the process—but no peace ever reached, lol... Literally. 😢! Don't CTB for the sake of peace; if I were going to do it, it'd be because of pain and *absolute genuine hopelessness*, which is rare, but does exist.

Ah well. At least there's other reasons to CTB than just peace. Like to avoid massive amounts of pain and suffering (cancer, death of entire family, ancient times where they would CTB to avoid slaughter and torture from raiders/enemy forces, etc etc). Which even that can't be felt after death either (the escape from awful circumstances). It just sucks that one can't experience that fact that it's over, and that the "bad stuff being over" has to be earned through fear and misery from dying (happens in all deaths, to some extent)—and that's the whole experience. No peace or satisfaction ever felt! Lol. Reality is absurd. In so, so many ways.

At least we (well, most of us) get to avoid going out the way pretty much all animals do (and practically all humans used to, up until the last 100 years or so): getting torn into pieces, or being eaten alive by packs of predators, or getting squashed by something way bigger than oneself/etc, etc, etc...

Hell, even for humans before 100 years ago, the best death you could expect naturally (can't really count heart attacks—sudden death from heart problems becomes super rare the further back in time you go, because most people died young while their hearts were still healthy) was probably cancer, infection or disease. Unless you consider being viciously murdered by humans or other animals as being better than the other options...?

I mean I guess dying as an infant doesn't *seem* as bad as these other options either. But that can't be verified. Just because we don't remember our early years doesn't mean we don't feel everything we do when we're older. lol. Like OBVIOUSLY. But maybe it wouldn't be as bad (hopefully) since it happened CONSTANTLY. Well over 50% of kids didn't make it to age 4 or 5. So effectively, 50% (number might be higher even, actually) of all humans died before age 4-5.

So I'd say even with everything being relative, I'd still pick the final moments of suffering nowadays, from the modern forms of CTB'ing (or most forms of death happening in hospitals, for sure) VASTLY, over *any* of the ways humans and animals died in the past; being able to feel peace after the fact or not be damned!

Edit: sorry this post was so long and off topic, lol... Super overtired. Time to head to bed 😴...

Double edit: I guess after thinking about it more, there absolutely WAS a peaceful way to go in ancient times, that would be fairly easy to pull off: starvation!

All you'd have to do is not hunt/scavenge, and you'd be set! ...As long as you had the strength to fight off predators trying to make use of your newly weakened body, lol...

And I doubt if you were in a group they'd be super happy about someone being dead weight and not contributing. Death was so common then, that I have no doubt they'd be easily willing to let you starve if you were suicidal.

Weirdly, suicide is super duper rare in ancient times, or in jungle tribes of hunter gatherers. Depression doesn't really exist in those contexts. It's a purely modern day civilized world phenomena. So I doubt anyone was willingly starving themselves.
Interesting comment, this is something I've been thinking about ever since my first attempt and I was wondering how it doesn't seem to bother anyone else. I've never seen anyone articulate it until now.

Peace is really what most of us seek but none awaits us. It's actually an extremely disturbing thought for me now, especially after I saw a video of someone dying of SN poisoning, but also my own experience with that and being intubated in the hospital.

To think that that would be the last experience I'd have before consciousness ends forever... I don't think I would be very pleased with that while going through the poisoning. I would want relief from the awful effects of the poison. This is perhaps where methods like the exit bag are far superior as it's supposed to be quite peaceful. You might actually get to appreciate the process in that case and to reflect on your decision sober-mindedly. I think that's how most of us imagine our last moments, as this deep solitary self-reflective moment. It sounds beautiful as an idea, but the reality is quite different and that makes me deeply sad :(

I suppose I'll have to focus on other benefits of suicide during those moments, like the fact that I'll be spared future suffering, but somehow that doesn't feel satisfactory while experiencing such awful sensations. It's hard to even have a thought that includes one's life as a whole. During those moments one is focused exclusively on the momentary awfulness of the body being destroyed. There's hardly a worse sensation than that. Those who have experienced extreme levels of physical pain or the extreme of any unpleasant physical state probably know best that other problems can easily become irrelevant during those times.

When I was on life support I had only two thoughts - "I hope I'll die soon" and "If I don't die I will appreciate being able to breathe. Breathing on my own is all I need in life". The thought of dying was only comforting in relation to being unable to breathe, not to any circumstance that brought me to the point of wanting to commit suicide.
And of course the second thought turned out to be false shortly after I regained the ability to breathe, but those were real feelings I went through at the time nonetheless, and I wonder if that's a universal experience. If so, last-moment regret might be more common than we assume, but we don't often get to interview those who come that close to dying, and people who do survive in such unlikely scenarios often have memory loss.

I don't think starvation is peaceful though. It seemed so to me too until I read a bit about it.
 
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Dontwant2Bhere

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Apr 1, 2026
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Interesting comment, this is something I've been thinking about ever since my first attempt and I was wondering how it doesn't seem to bother anyone else. I've never seen anyone articulate it until now.

Peace is really what most of us seek but none awaits us. It's actually an extremely disturbing thought for me now, especially after I saw a video of someone dying of SN poisoning, but also my own experience with that and being intubated in the hospital.

To think that that would be the last experience I'd have before consciousness ends forever... I don't think I would be very pleased with that while going through the poisoning. I would want relief from the awful effects of the poison. This is perhaps where methods like the exit bag are far superior as it's supposed to be quite peaceful. You might actually get to appreciate the process in that case and to reflect on your decision sober-mindedly. I think that's how most of us imagine our last moments, as this deep solitary self-reflective moment. It sounds beautiful as an idea, but the reality is quite different and that makes me deeply sad :(

I suppose I'll have to focus on other benefits of suicide during those moments, like the fact that I'll be spared future suffering, but somehow that doesn't feel satisfactory while experiencing such awful sensations. It's hard to even have a thought that includes one's life as a whole. During those moments one is focused exclusively on the momentary awfulness of the body being destroyed. There's hardly a worse sensation than that. Those who have experienced extreme levels of physical pain or the extreme of any unpleasant physical state probably know best that other problems can easily become irrelevant during those times.

When I was on life support I had only two thoughts - "I hope I'll die soon" and "If I don't die I will appreciate being able to breathe. Breathing on my own is all I need in life". The thought of dying was only comforting in relation to being unable to breathe, not to any circumstance that brought me to the point of wanting to commit suicide.
And of course the second thought turned out to be false shortly after I regained the ability to breathe, but those were real feelings I went through at the time nonetheless, and I wonder if that's a universal experience. If so, last-moment regret might be more common than we assume, but we don't often get to interview those who come that close to dying, and people who do survive in such unlikely scenarios often have memory loss.

I don't think starvation is peaceful though. It seemed so to me too until I read a bit about it.

I'm starting to think the only truly peaceful death is the one we don't know is coming. Like if someone accidentally mixed up general anesthesia with Nembutal, for instance.

Anyways, I don't want to clog up this thread with any more of my off topic nonsense, lol. I've done enough damage already. But do feel free to message me if you'd like.
 
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thevoidpointer

thevoidpointer

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Feb 20, 2026
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I just ordered it today. I hope I didn't just get scammed, since I may have used the riskiest payment method.
 
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I just had a visit from psychiatric services after ordering from DSL
did you contact him through email or whatsapp?
is it getting sent by courier or just through the mail?
 
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Thrillhouse

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Apr 9, 2026
12
Peace is really what most of us seek but none awaits us. It's actually an extremely disturbing thought for me now, especially after I saw a video of someone dying of SN poisoning, but also my own experience with that and being intubated in the hospital.
Are you saying you tried SN and ended up in the hospital?
 
insectontrial

insectontrial

Member
Jan 29, 2026
43
Are you saying you tried SN and ended up in the hospital?
I've heard you need to fast beforehand and take anti-emetics or else you could throw it up and end up in hospital. You don't just take SN and die, there's a whole procedure.
 
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Thrillhouse

Member
Apr 9, 2026
12
Would sending SN to my virtual mailbox instead of residential address prevent a welfare check?
 
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ForgetIExist

Student
Jan 31, 2026
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I just had a visit from psychiatric services after ordering from DSL. They seemed to know it was SN from U* and that it was being sent to my address, but they did not know when it was ordered or how much. I haven't told anyone about this so I'm confused how they have this information?

I denied everything and said I didn't know anything about it because I was caught of guard since it hadn't left origin country yet.

Im guessing it got flagged in origin country and then passed on to services here. Does that mean the package is likely compromised? I checked the tracking today and it says it has passed through customs despite this.

Im unsure what to do now I feel really shaken and paranoid about this I managed to avoid hospitalization and convince them i was okay.
I'm scared this is the second welfare check post I've seen...
 
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insectontrial

Member
Jan 29, 2026
43
I'm scared this is the second welfare check post I've seen...
If you're in the UK I think all DSL parcels trigger welfare checks now. It seems to be the case with all the UK users I've seen popping up on these threads. With that being said, I don't think they can confiscate SN, even if they do turn up at your door.
 

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