Do you think God exists?

[MiMif]

I used to think he did but I really don't know. They say I should feel guilty since he sacrificed himself for me but if that's the case I never asked for his sacrifice I never wanted to exist in the first place. Isn't it cruel to thrust someone into hell that they never wanted to be in and then threaten to thrust them into another hell once they die due to trying to escape the hell they were already in.

If God exists I am a little scared. Cause if I do all this just to be thrust back into hell....I would be ...I don't even know it would be so miserable I wouldn't be able to function

 

[30LoverForever]

I think god is real, he hates me but also loves me
So idk, its love hate

 

[musingsofaghost]

I believe in Him. My faith is the one thing that has grown over the years. I see Him in the occasional beauty I see in the world: the sunsets, the ocean. But even though I am one of His creations, I don't see that form of God's beauty in me anymore.

I believe God to be filled with everlasting kindness and understanding. I do believe he understands the troubled mind and fear-ridden hearts of us, those who wish to commit suicide. I hope Jesus welcomes me into our Father's realm with open arms. I feel like that will soothe my grief-stricken heart immensely.

 

[deep-sleeper]

Maybe, but I am sure that all religions are false

 

[BlockHammer]

Well i do believe that there's a god, but what i'm not sure about is the true identity of the god itself, it's either god from islam,christian,hindu or else. That's why i'm not that serious when i'm praying to my god because who knows if i'm worshiping a wrong god

 

[Captain Howdy]

Going by what humans have written about God... the Christian one anyway...

God is all-knowing... God created himself in the form of a human, KNOWING humans would kill him, and he planned this sacrifice to somehow "save" humanity from rules that, supposedly, he had previously given to them.

Even if all that makes sense... it seems to indicate God is okay with suicide. Because he literally put himself in a situation knowing he would die, and died willingly for the sake of others... to relieve their burdens that he had put upon them previously... That sounds like suicide to me.

Well even without the religious aspect.... so many people are slowly committing suicide from lifestyle choices that it is really no different. McDonalds 5 days a week (combined with some Marlboros) is a surefire way to CTB, just slower.

 

[superbfrawg]

i used to hope, but life is just too miserable and painful for there to be a god, or if there is then that god has to be evil IMO

 

[Lyscx]

What I'm saying is living feels as though it's hell. I'm confused on what ur saying

I think he means that while your earthly life may be bad and your body suffer if you are christian your soul is saved but if you are not a christian even if you live a good life your soul is already away from god meaning its already basically in hell

 

[ginko0]

Going by what humans have written about God... the Christian one anyway...

God is all-knowing... God created himself in the form of a human, KNOWING humans would kill him, and he planned this sacrifice to somehow "save" humanity from rules that, supposedly, he had previously given to them.

Even if all that makes sense... it seems to indicate God is okay with suicide. Because he literally put himself in a situation knowing he would die, and died willingly for the sake of others... to relieve their burdens that he had put upon them previously... That sounds like suicide to me.

Yes! "The idea of a god who fabricates the universe in order to fabricate his scaffold".

John Donne, a seventeenth century poet, basically said the same thing. He argued that Christ had not surrendered to death, but was in full control of the process that led to his death. And that he "did as much as any could be willing to do. And therefore, as himselfe sayd, 'no man can take away my soule"' and "I have power to lay it down". He argued, then, that no man actually took Christ's life, and that the cause of his death was only his own Will.

Not that I believe in any of that shit, but, being Christians the ones to condemn suicide more harshly, I wonder how would they explain Christ's willingness to die.

 

[Lyscx]

Yes! "The idea of a god who fabricates the universe in order to fabricate his scaffold".

John Donne, a seventeenth century poet, basically said the same thing. He argued that Christ had not surrendered to death, but was in full control of the process that led to his death. And that he "did as much as any could be willing to do. And therefore, as himselfe sayd, 'no man can take away my soule"' and "I have power to lay it down". He argued, then, that no man actually took Christ's life, and that the cause of his death was only his own Will.

Not that I believe in any of that shit, but, being Christians the ones to condemn suicide more harshly, I wonder how would they explain Christ's willingness to die.

Well technically it wasnt a suicide but again In Christianity Christ is God so it would be dumb to judge God by what he did as A God simply because god can do whatever he wants

 

[ginko0]

Evolved monkeys believing they're the center of the universe...

I always answer with this quote, by Darwin: "Man in his arrogance thinks himself a great work, worthy of the interposition of a deity. More humble, and I believe truer, to consider him created from animals".

 

[Lyscx]

Evolved monkeys believing they're the center of the universe...

I always answer with this quote, by Darwin: "Man in his arrogance thinks himself a great work, worthy of the interposition of a deity. More humble, and I believe truer, to consider him created from animals".

Im not saying im believing anything im just stating that christians do not need to adress that will simply because it does not make sense from their perspective

 

[ginko0]

Well technically it wasnt a suicide but again In Christianity Christ is God so it would be dumb to judge God by what he did as A God simply because god can do whatever he wants

Im not saying im believing anything im just stating that christians do not need to adress that will simply because it does not make sense from their perspective

Well, that they don't need doesn't mean they shouldn't. That's how many believers lose their faith: the tiniest doubt or contradiction can make the whole system crash. A "good" God that creates men without being asked to, and then orders this sad slave to adore him, or else? A "good" God that floods the entirety of Earth just because the men that HE created were, (to his surprise?), sinful? A "good" God that allows Satan to take everything away from a devout believer just to prove a point?

Well, any mind still sane enough would be able to see through the cracks.

 

[Lyscx]

Well, that they don't need doesn't mean they shouldn't. That's how many believers lose their faith: the tiniest doubt or contradiction can make the whole system crash. A "good" God that creates men without being asked to, and then orders this sad slave to adore him, or else? A "good" God that floods the entirety of Earth just because the men that HE created were, (to his surprise?), sinful? A "good" God that allows Satan to take everything away from a devout believer just to prove a point?

Well, any mind still sane enough would be able to see through the cracks.

Yea but i cant keep myself from thinking that God simply could be bad and just testing or playing with humans tricking them etc. That would be really awful

 

[mind3de]

Would you mind telling about this experience? I'm generally agnostic and have not found any religion that fits with me. I'm not being critical or anything. I have heard of people saying this happened to them and wonder what it was like and how you are sure it was the one true creator. That flow chart posted above really covers my skepticism. I'm very doubtful that you must believe or you're cooked literally. This is one of the big reasons I'm so skeptical. If there is going to be reincarnation or eternal damnation I'm demanding nonexistence since I couldn't have requested existence. There's a pretty good chance I'd request it anyway

Unfortunately the experience was way too personal. I can't get into details, but he didn't directly spoke to me or something like that.
I was in the forest at night and then he threw me into the bush. I know how crazy that sounds, but trust me, it was him.
I know for some reason (which I can't explain) that it was really the only true God that exists (which is YHVH) and not some kind of psychotic experience.

 

[Dejected 55]

Well technically it wasnt a suicide but again In Christianity Christ is God so it would be dumb to judge God by what he did as A God simply because god can do whatever he wants

If God knowingly puts himself on Earth in human form knowing that people will kill him, that's basically suicide-by-cop... so he not only wanted to die but he wanted to manipulate others into doing it for him. Again, either of those done by a human are said to be improper by the same religion where the supreme power himself did the very thing.

It's Do as I say, not as I do to the Nth degree. If God can be a hypocrite about that, he can do it about anything.

 

[Lyscx]

If God knowingly puts himself on Earth in human form knowing that people will kill him, that's basically suicide-by-cop... so he not only wanted to die but he wanted to manipulate others into doing it for him. Again, either of those done by a human are said to be improper by the same religion where the supreme power himself did the very thing.

It's Do as I say, not as I do to the Nth degree. If God can be a hypocrite about that, he can do it about anything.

well yea thats the point God can do whatever he wants and probably the worst thing about this is god very well can be messing w us

 

[Hopeindeath!]

Yes, I believe God exists.

 

[Dinorun]

How can we know that we arn't in hell right now?

we live in a world built for the strong and evil where they can cheat lie and manipulate their way to anything they want they take and hoard and do what they please while giving the rest the bare minimum they can and makes everyone's life worse as long as it doesn't hurt them,
While if you are just trying your best to be good and not step over anyone you lose respect and at the end punished . By the system, what you achieve, by your peers, even by your mind, taking any small insignificant mistake and replying it over and over again misslideading you into thinking it's that much worse. Something people who simply don't care will never understand

My body might not be burning 24/7 like the tales about hell or whatever
But my soul is, I am low key deteriorating in parts but it's a slow process which never ends event after event

Back to the topic:
I despise religion
How many deaths are there even between members of the same religion fighting each other?
It's a tool of control written by humans to scare others human and make them fall inline
I don't see any god, I see people who steal a lot of money, while their believers stay poor and twist whatever is written in those books to fit their narrative.

 

[darksouls]

no, I am not religious

 

[whocaresnobodycares]

Maybe. It's a big, weird universe. BUT it also DEPENDS on what you MEAN by "God."
I pray sometimes. It "can't hurt," as they say. In the TV show One Mississippi, comedian Tig Notaro asks a religious woman, "If God LOVES everyone, then why would you need to pray?" and a woman pauses then says, "A parent has love for all of of their children, but they feel a LITTLE closer to the ones that call them once in a while..."

Having said THAT:
1) sometimes I think there's only a "Devil," but not in a typical red, laughing goat-guy way-- just that the universe is trying to torture me, like the A.I. in Ellison's "I Have No Mouth..." short story. Sometimes, I think there's a God but it's THAT,
2) I don't really care that much, re: suicide; I certainly feel like I'd have EVERY right to do it. It's, as they say, MY life,
3) God isn't an author; books are written by people. I don't believe in a Sacred Text. Not a chance. I don't care if the religion is 2 days old, or "Oh, OURS are WRITTEN IN STONE 300000 YEARS AGO, look at ALL these monuments and relics, so they're more trustworthy." To me, they're more UNTRUSTWORTHY, the older they are, irrelevant to the present, and likely to be false.
EVEN IF there is a God, I'm not sure they hear prayers, have the power to give life or "save" a "soul" to make a mortal immortal (that's a PRETTY FREAKING BIG ask of a being, even 1 with magical powers), have exactly TOTAL omnipotence ("Can you make a rock so heavy that you can't lift it?"), or if they even care much about our little corner of an infinite universe. Many people have hubris, and a HIGH regard for mankind's "genius" and "power," so "A God is REALLY hung up on us, because we're 'important," but I find that pretty ridiculous, whether on the surface or seriously thought through. Humans are pretty sordid little faulty animals. We're in "God's image"? Pfffff.