Could it be impossible to die?

[Lyscx]

I wasnt sure where to post this thread but i think since it involves death ill post it here.
Do yall believe in Quantum Immortality? Idea that each time you die your consciousness passes to a other version of events where you survive or have different circumstances.
For example you someone decided to jump from a building and that person died, right before jumping their consciousness shift and it that version they never actually decide to jump. The thing is we can never prove or test this hypothesis atleast not with results. For example if someone decides to test this scientifically with a button which has %50 of killing them by this theory person would be able to press the button hunders of times and not die meaning that this theory is true but from our perspective this person would be dead so we will not be able to confirm that he pressed it more than 100 times and survived. And from the persons perspective everything might seem to work and people might just take it as insane luck. So if its true we have no way to know and if its false we also have no way to know

 

[liquid jen]

It's an idea i kinda fear, but i personally don't believe it at all. Also, what would happen in regards to dying via old age with this theory?

 

[Forever Sleep]

Just spacially, I find this hard to accept. Where do we 'jump' to? This world? But, there are surely many more billion creatures that have died here than those that are alive right now.

So- another world then. A duplicate? So, there's many more versions of 'us' right now, making different decisions? Who's controlling them at this very moment then?

Do we mannifest in them at the same age as we are now or, are we born again? But then, what if we outlive our parents? How can they give birth to us again on this new world, if they are already alive here? It's like- you'd need a whole new set of the same people for each individual timeline- for things to align. So- a whole new earth for every single life that's been lived here.

Does it work the same for animals- insects even? That's an insane amount of lives that need duplicating. If even a tiny detail is off- presumably, we aren't 'us' anymore. We need to have the same parents. It needs to be that sperm and egg that meet up. It just seems too insane to me. Billions upon billions of earths.

Maybe we can't disprove it but, I just don't understand why it would happen either. Surely, it was difficult enough for this planet to have been created. Just the physicality of it- the big bang. Are these other worlds physical- like this one? Do they comply to the same physical laws? Can we date those planets?

Again, the timeline is off. Are we saying it's only those who suicide who live again or, everyone? But- to follow my own family tree. My Mum's dead. My Dad's still alive. If I die now, who births me in the other world? My Mum's presumably been living her new life the past 42 years. My Dad's still here. The logistics don't work. So- it would need to be a 'false' version of them. So effectively, all these other lives would have to be simulations.

I suppose that throws up the question of whether this is a simulation. I tend to think not. But, that's the only way I can get my head around this theory.

I tend to feel like it just plugs in to the arrogance of our species too and general ideas around imortality and afterlife. Not that I feel confident in my disbelief but, I find it almost funny. That we think we're too important to actually properly die and be forgotten about. That is- if we do just fade into nothing. I don't imagine any form of afterlife would be good though.

 

[Hollowman]

No

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

I don't believe in any kind of immortality .

there is no evidence many more reasons

imo life is meaningless suffering

to me the only things that matter are me avoiding unbearable pain, bad suffering and horrible problems and my suicide which would solve all problems for me

imo the only things that give a meaning are programmed by evolution , culture , society, other people, experiences into the brain

1 second after my brain dies it will be eternal non-existence for me.

non-existence forever is the only guarantee of never suffering so badly it's a trillion time worse than one can imagine. permanent non-existence is the only perfection.


"If what makes death seem so terrible to us were the thought of not-being, we should think with equal horror of the time before we were born… A whole eternity ran its course before we were born, that doesn't bother us. On the other hand, we find it hard, nay, unendurable, that after the momentary intermezzo of an ephemeral existence, a second eternity should follow in which we shall no longer be." - Schopenhauer pg. 130 of On the Suffering of the World

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

Who ever woke up from a dream and notices later that he is still dreaming needs no quantum physiks to doubt mortality. How can we be sure that we are not dreaming anymore and that dying is nothing but waking up in the next level of dreaming. Of course this is another fantasy of an afterlife but this one is questioning reality, science and causality from the ground.