Carbon Monoxide: How feasible is my plan?

[white_car]

Hi there, fellow realists...

Since we all agree on the value of life on here, this post will be about the "how" of things, and not about the "why"...

After reviewing many methods for catching the proverbial bus, I've come to the conclusion that the most peaceful one is carbon monoxide, by far.

However, not having access to the stuff directly, I'll have to work around the limitations that are placed on me, by "producing" the CO myself. And so, if it's OK with you guys, I'd like to have your critical opinions about my plan, to help identify potential points of failure.

While I'm ready to CTB, I really don't want to end up being disabled or anything. So this is all in the spirit of harm reduction. For myself, and for potential first responders or even passers-by, that I have to take into account.

So my plan is basically this:

- Get sulfuric acid from an old car battery (and evaporate the 70% water in it), since it's not sold in stores where I live. Then mix it with formic acid in my car, after I find a semi-isolated area in my city.

In practical terms, I'll use a 1.8 liter glass container (from the coffee maker), pour 1 liter of formic acid in it. Then I hear that it's better to heat it up a bit, so I'll use a camping stove for that... And then finally, put the container inside the car, mix the sulfuric acid in (to top the 1.8 liter container), and wait for the carbon monxide and the intented effect. For other people's safety, I'll use a big sign with big fat lettering that says: "Caution - Carbon Monoxide" in a visible place in the car.

So yeah... Do you guys see any potential failures in this plan? I'm not good at chemistry... Are the ratios OK for instance?

Thank you in advance.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

You need concentrated sulfuric acid. Also, it will be unbreathable unless you put it through a wash. Might want to read the following link and do more resesearch.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/manually-pouring-sulfuric-formic-acid.28748/#post-1320824

 

[white_car]

You need concentrated sulfuric acid. Also, it will be unbreathable unless you put it through a wash. Might want to read the following link and do more resesearch.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/manually-pouring-sulfuric-formic-acid.28748/#post-1320824

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Hi @locked*n*loaded, and thank you for the quick answer...

I have to say I'd hoped for a response that would have told me things are as simple as they are in my plan, but this is useful info...

Alas, even a device as simple as this is beyond my crafting abilities... So I guess I'm back to square one...

Since all sorts of walls are closing in on me, I might try to do it without what you call "washing" the CO...

Any ideas how long it would take before passing out, if I just force myself to breathe in such a scenario?

Thanks again!

 

[locked*n*loaded]

First, I want to say that car battery acid is too weak a concentration of sulfuric acid, so I hope you abandon that idea. It's going to be absolute hell to breath in the unwashed synthesized CO/formic gas MIXTURE, which is what you'll have. Formic acid is extremely caustic and is going to burn the hell out of your lungs, nasal passageways, throat, etc. Even if you somehow, miraculously, manage to create some amount of CO gas, I have no idea what kind of concentration you'd produce, and neither do you. How quickly you would pass out is entirely dependent on how high a concentration of CO you manage to achieve in whatever "space" you're in.

Is there no way for you to use charcoal? It is so much easier to work with.

 

[white_car]

Hey!

I was going to boil the battery acid to bring it to a higher concentration level.

As for the charcoal thing, it seemed to me the potential for failure was greater than with a purely chemical process, but I'm willing to reconsider.

I'm guessing there are ways to do it that are more effective than others. Do you have recommendations on how to go about it? Probably going to use a room that's 2.5m x 3m x 2.5m.

Thank you in advance.

 

[white_car]

Silly me... The shower would probably be a much more appropriate place, since it's much smaller than my room!

 

[white_car]

Hey @locked*n*loaded: After having dismissed this contraption for being too difficult to build, it seems to me that I'll have to go this route ultimately. Charcoal being impractical where I live. But this hydroxide thing still bugs me. On the wikipedia page in my language, the description suggests the terme "hydroxide" applies to a bunch of stuff. Like it's a family of substances, not just one.

What do I even look for, or ask for, when I go to buy it?

Sorry, not trying to be bothersome here. It's just I know nothing about these things!