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Hyakkimaru

Hyakkimaru

If I say I am lying, am I telling the truth?
Apr 15, 2019
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I recently saw this movie that made me question quite a lot, a few of the questions being things like, why do we move through life, working and being blissfully ignorant to the suffering around us only to eventually die like everyone else anyways, why not see the world for what it is and end it as soon as possible as to avoid the constant stress of work and the heartbreak of our suffering, what's the point of all of it? How do people stay happy when it's a fact that the world is just a hamster ball designed to keep us doing the same thing over and over again until we die of old age etc. I dont really know, my thoughts on this right now are kind of everywhere.
 
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Strangeasangels

Student
May 23, 2019
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People learn to be selfish and turn off outside stimuli that doesn't feed into their happiness bubble. The world is a cold and unfeeling place which makes it hard for the highly sensitive.

What was name of movie?
 
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Lethe

Lethe

Fey
Sep 19, 2019
670
Hmm, it's almost as if the human struggle is analogous to that of Sisyphus, the Greek tragic hero doomed to forever roll a boulder up the side of a mountain.
 
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Nanako

Nanako

Experienced
Dec 24, 2018
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It's not evolutionarily advantageous to think along those lines. This is the boring answer.
 
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Hyakkimaru

Hyakkimaru

If I say I am lying, am I telling the truth?
Apr 15, 2019
26
It's not evolutionarily advantageous to think along those lines. This is the boring answer.
Its definitely not evolutionarily advantageous to think along those lines because suicide in and of itself doesn't help keep a species alive, and that's the whole point of evolution right? to give the species certain traits to help it survive? Also I'm not sure what you mean by this is the boring answer, do you mean nihilism is the answer, and just the way I put it is cliche, and almost the same way everyone else puts it? or was that meant as an insult? (not trying to start an argument, I'm just emotionally illiterate over forums and text)
 
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Lethe

Fey
Sep 19, 2019
670
In cellular biology there's a process known as apoptosis or "cellular suicide". What this means is that cells that are no longer beneficial to the whole organism-- due to virus, cancer, damage, etc-- are genetically programmed to kill themselves so as to not burden the whole organism. It is evolutionary advantageous.

This can be extrapolated to whole organisms perhaps. Organisms that don't perceive themselves to be contributing to some sort of group, or "society at large" tend to have these suicidal tendencies more. So I can see why it is evolutionarily advantageous, if it benefits humanity as a whole by weeding out the unfit.
 
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Hyakkimaru

Hyakkimaru

If I say I am lying, am I telling the truth?
Apr 15, 2019
26
This can be extrapolated to whole organisms perhaps. Organisms that don't perceive themselves to be contributing to some sort of group, or "society at large" tend to have these suicidal tendencies more. So I can see why it is evolutionarily advantageous, if it benefits humanity as a whole by weeding out the unfit.
that a lot more sense, I like the way you explained this, I definitely wouldn't have believed this without the correlation to cellular suicide, I've heard the term before I've just never researched it to that degree.
 
Nanako

Nanako

Experienced
Dec 24, 2018
288
Its definitely not evolutionarily advantageous to think along those lines because suicide in and of itself doesn't help keep a species alive, and that's the whole point of evolution right? to give the species certain traits to help it survive? Also I'm not sure what you mean by this is the boring answer, do you mean nihilism is the answer, and just the way I put it is cliche, and almost the same way everyone else puts it? or was that meant as an insult? (not trying to start an argument, I'm just emotionally illiterate over forums and text)

Sorry, meant to say that my answer was boring because I don't have much to offer to this conversation other than the typical "because nature" response. English is not my first language so I apologize if I seemed rude. ^^'
 
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woxihuanni

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Aug 19, 2019
3,298
Yeah because all the suffering comes out of thin fucking air, for instance children abused never grow up to be child abusers, because workers do not vote for governments that take away their rights, because there are not people in this world who fucking throw their newborn babies at the police. Whatever floats your boat, but the suffering in this world is not my doing and my responsibility, such thoughts are best left behind at the age of about twelve.

Also, stress is good in reasonable amounts. People would simply rot in an armchair if the world was a paradise.
 
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