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Jisatsu

Jisatsu

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Same thing as the numbing spray but with a higher purity and a higher chance of death. The only difference is that your mouth and throat will go numb from the powder amd the metallic taste you will get.

It's basically the same thing as sn but more widely available as of this post.
 
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In this post it is claimed that benzocaine has a milder methemoglobinemia effect with respect to SN. Is there some literature that provides a fatal dose over a certain threshold for benzocaine or just some intoxication cases?
 
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Jisatsu

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In this post it is claimed that benzocaine has a milder methemoglobinemia effect with respect to SN. Is there some literature that provides a fatal dose over a certain threshold for benzocaine or just some intoxication cases?
I havent seen exact numbers but I do know the "lethal" amount for it is around 200mg but I believe to have significant results you should triple the amount but for my case I'm looking into 25g like the same amount sn poisoning is recommended at. (I'm not taking chances anymore)
Benzocaine hasn't been recorded to be used in suicide cases yet but it definitely has the potential to kill.
On another note benzocaine powder isn't soluble in water but it is in ethanol... which totally makes this method way more fun in my books lol.
 
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weeping<3willow

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I havent seen exact numbers but I do know the "lethal" amount for it is around 200mg but I believe to have significant results you should triple the amount but for my case I'm looking into 25g like the same amount sn poisoning is recommended at. (I'm not taking chances anymore)
Benzocaine hasn't been recorded to be used in suicide cases yet but it definitely has the potential to kill.
On another note benzocaine powder isn't soluble in water but it is in ethanol... which totally makes this method way more fun in my books lol.
so 25g of benzocaine is recommended? or should more be ingested because of the milder methemoglobinemia?
 
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Jisatsu

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so 25g of benzocaine is recommended? or should more be ingested because of the milder methemoglobinemia?
25g is the amount that all poisons will kill. It's very similar to sn and kn , at 25g it's the safest for ctb.
 
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Oct 14, 2025
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also, how easily does this stuff dissolve into water? specifically 25g and how much water i'd need
 
weeping<3willow

weeping<3willow

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Oct 14, 2025
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It doesn't. It's not soluble in water, it is in ethanol tho.
how much vodka would it take for it to dissolve into? i'm assuming that's not a good idea as it i think it take a lot that would need to be ingested at once, i don't know tho
 
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Jisatsu

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how much vodka would it take for it to dissolve into? i'm assuming that's not a good idea as it i think it take a lot that would need to be ingested at once, i don't know tho
The idea is to mix 25g into it. I'd mix until the powder is completely gone and then with the new solution you've made separate it into shots and take them one after another until they're all gone.
 
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just ordered 100 grams. i'm honestly a little nervous to try a method that hasn't been achieved successfully yet
 
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The idea is to mix 25g into it. I'd mix until the powder is completely gone and then with the new solution you've made separate it into shots and take them one after another until they're all gone.
Hey, @Jisatsu. I was wondering if you could take a look at my plan.
35-20g of benzocaine mixed into a small cup of vodka.
About half of the benzocaine will be consumed orally and the other half will be injected rectally.
Prior to doing this, I will fast and follow the SN protocol regarding anti-emetics.
Once I feel sieepy and close to passing out, I plan to affix a plastic bag to my head and secure it with a belt.
Thoughts? You think it'll work?
 
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Deepdense

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Have you tried getting a fuck ton of cherry core and just crushing them and swallowing them?
 
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Hey, @Jisatsu. I was wondering if you could take a look at my plan.
35-20g of benzocaine mixed into a small cup of vodka.
About half of the benzocaine will be consumed orally and the other half will be injected rectally.
Prior to doing this, I will fast and follow the SN protocol regarding anti-emetics.
Once I feel sieepy and close to passing out, I plan to affix a plastic bag to my head and secure it with a belt.
Thoughts? You think it'll work?
Sounds good honestly
just ordered 100 grams. i'm honestly a little nervous to try a method that hasn't been achieved successfully yet
The powder is the purest way to do it. And yeah it is a bit frightening to know that this hasn't been used directly as a method yet but
... I guess this is just how we make history.
 
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Hey, @Jisatsu. I was wondering if you could take a look at my plan.
35-20g of benzocaine mixed into a small cup of vodka.
About half of the benzocaine will be consumed orally and the other half will be injected rectally.
Prior to doing this, I will fast and follow the SN protocol regarding anti-emetics.
Once I feel sieepy and close to passing out, I plan to affix a plastic bag to my head and secure it with a belt.
Thoughts? You think it'll work?
after doing research i also plan to boof this stuff

it appearently takes 125ml of 95% ethanol for the benzocaine to completely dissolve. i plan on doing little amounts without it completely dissolving, leaving some powder residue, but as long as it gets in my system, itll work

i also was concerned about being left brain dead after this, as it seems it would take a higher dose of this stuff than SN to induce the methemoglobinemia, however, as long as i'm left braindead, ill be unconcious, which is good enough for me, personally
 
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Jisatsu

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I managed to do a few tests on my benzocaine powder.
I did a blood test which is where you introduce blood to a substance and in this case I wanted to see if it would turn brown like sn or kn does because of methemoglobinemia and .... it did extremely fast . The color was a dark brown very similar to sn and it turned that color within about 2 minutes.

I also tested its solubility in different liquids and by far the best one was vodka, it became clumpy when introduced to water and was extremely hard to clean up .

I probably should've used a mask and gloves because as of this moment I feel incredibly light headed 😅.
 
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I managed to do a few tests on my benzocaine powder.
I did a blood test which is where you introduce blood to a substance and in this case I wanted to see if it would turn brown like sn or kn does because of methemoglobinemia and .... it did extremely fast . The color was a dark brown very similar to sn and it turned that color within about 2 minutes.
Good to see these results! Also, keep in mind that a metabolite of benzocaine likely causes most of the methemoglobinemia.
 
lpdsvm

lpdsvm

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Wow. It is cool. It could be better than SN. I am still thinking of the siphon effect when hanging. Just falling asleep before the actual hanging. Not sure. Maybe I will combine it with SN/ magic powder in alcohol
 
dewdfish

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Nov 30, 2025
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Interesting method. I just looked it up for a purchase… hmm…
 
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Baisley

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Has anyone actually tried this method yet or had success with it?
 
dewdfish

dewdfish

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Nov 30, 2025
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Just ordered my benzocaine powder and a bottle of Absolut. Maybe I'll be the first one to try it.
 
Unlucky777

Unlucky777

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I ordered my 25 g 99% pure. I have scopolamine patches that they gave me to use before my ketamine therapy treatments, I wonder if that will be good enough to prevent nausea?

Also what about benzocaine hydrochloride 99%, would that work? That one is water soluble. I don't like the idea of mixing with vodka, I hate hard liquor of any kind, it makes me very nauseous
 
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25g is the amount that all poisons will kill. It's very similar to sn and kn , at 25g it's the safest for ctb.
This is a factually inaccurate and extremely misleading statement. Many poisons work at various amounts. 25 grams is just what the PPH has decided on for SN. Technically, I believe someone calculated out you would need, I believe, 38 grams of KN to get the same amount of nitrite as in 25 grams of SN.

so 25g of benzocaine is recommended? or should more be ingested because of the milder methemoglobinemia?
There is no yet established protocol for benzococane. I believe Jisatsu is doing 25 grams because that is what is used for SN.
 
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Jisatsu

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Jan 5, 2025
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This is a factually inaccurate and extremely misleading statement. Many poisons work at various amounts. 25 grams is just what the PPH has decided on for SN. Technically, I believe someone calculated out you would need, I believe, 38 grams of KN to get the same amount of nitrite as in 25 grams of SN.


There is no yet established protocol for benzococane. I believe Jisatsu is doing 25 grams because that is what is used for SN.
I'm speaking specifically for substances that cause methemoglobinemia. But I'm honestly not going to argue with you... I'll show my own protocol after I ctb and hopefully it helps other users.. because that's all I want to do is just help people find peace .

I'm to exhausted with everything to give a shit when I've already shown my math on how much benzocaine can kill you. I only said 25g because that would be enough to kill you completely without any risks of recovery... you could easily die from less .
I ordered my 25 g 99% pure. I have scopolamine patches that they gave me to use before my ketamine therapy treatments, I wonder if that will be good enough to prevent nausea?

Also what about benzocaine hydrochloride 99%, would that work? That one is water soluble. I don't like the idea of mixing with vodka, I hate hard liquor of any kind, it makes me very nauseous
I don't trust anything that isn't just benzocaine...so I can't recommend benzocaine hydrochloride
 
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whoisit

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This is what grok says about this method
Benzocaine, a local anesthetic in the ester class, can cause an overdose primarily through topical or oral exposure, leading to systemic absorption and methemoglobinemia—a condition where the iron in hemoglobin is oxidized from Fe²⁺ to Fe³⁺, forming methemoglobin that impairs oxygen binding and delivery to tissues. 47 14 38 This results in tissue hypoxia despite normal oxygen saturation readings on standard pulse oximetry. Additional effects may include central nervous system depression (e.g., seizures, coma) and cardiovascular instability (e.g., hypotension, bradycardia, arrhythmias) if absorption is high enough to trigger local anesthetic systemic toxicity (LAST). 47 7 Overdose typically occurs from excessive topical application (e.g., sprays or gels for oral/throat pain, endoscopy premedication), accidental ingestion of products like teething gels or lozenges, or intentional misuse. 37 36 Symptoms usually appear within minutes to hours and include cyanosis (bluish skin/lips), headache, dizziness, fatigue, tachycardia, dyspnea, confusion, seizures, coma, and potentially death if methemoglobin levels exceed 70%. 47 22 Risk factors include young age (infants/children), elderly status, enzyme deficiencies (e.g., G6PD or methemoglobin reductase), concurrent use of other oxidants (e.g., nitrates, dapsone), and application to damaged skin/mucosa. 47 17 The response can be idiosyncratic, with some individuals affected at low doses while others tolerate higher amounts. 16


Direct human LD50 data for benzocaine is unavailable due to ethical limitations, with estimates derived from animal studies, case reports, and toxicological databases. 9 47 Oral LD50 in rats is consistently reported as 3042 mg/kg, with similar values in mice (2500 mg/kg) and rabbits (3042 mg/kg in some sources, though one outlier notes 1150 mg/kg). 1 3 8 9 0 Given the lack of human-specific LD50, animal data provides a rough extrapolation, though human toxicity (e.g., methemoglobinemia) often manifests at lower doses due to metabolic differences and idiosyncrasy. 5 60 Toxicological references like Poisindex suggest a threshold toxic dose of 22–40 mg/kg for methemoglobinemia onset, but lethal outcomes are rare and typically require higher exposures or vulnerability. 5 16 Case reports show severe effects (including fatalities) in infants at 15–25 mg/kg or higher, but adult deaths are uncommon and doses are often not quantified. 60 15 36 52 Using the rat oral LD50 as a conservative estimate for human extrapolation:


  • Calculation: 3042 mg/kg × 110 kg ≈ 334,620 mg (or ~335 g).

This is a broad approximation, as actual lethality varies; symptoms may emerge at doses far below this, and prompt treatment (e.g., methylene blue) often prevents death. 47 18 This is not medical advice—consult toxicology experts or poison control for precise evaluations.
 
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owarikigan

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is there any info on the storage life , dont remember if the original post said anything about it
 
Unlucky777

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Dec 10, 2025
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Same thing as the numbing spray but with a higher purity and a higher chance of death. The only difference is that your mouth and throat will go numb from the powder amd the metallic taste you will get.

It's basically the same thing as sn but more widely available as of this post.
Why can't I open this thread? Was it deleted?
 

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