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noname223

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Aug 18, 2020
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I dated some borderline women and some of them were pretty good at manipulating. I don't consider that fully evil. It is in some way pathological but I don't want to endure getting abused. Not all borderline women abused me. I have to count 2 of them were sort of abusive the other one's were good. I also had a very good time with them.

There is this chemistry master student who dates many men behind the back of her boyfriend. She also approached me and I was a little bit conflicted because she was in a relationship. But it once slipped she is doing that with countless men. I wonder how her boyfriend will feel if he finds it out. One might hope that he never will find it out. This must hurt as hell. I did not realize her behavior until I stumbled into a conversation between her and someone else.

Then the woman I got intimate with at the start of the year. It was an amazing time the first month. Actually too good to be true. After our date she started to act weird. Insulted me, gaslit me (which I noticed) and started to obviously lie to me. I was really confused but when I understood she had borderline I was able to proceed it. Actually, the gaslighhting was stunning. There were already some red flags with her. She was intimate with countless men and told me it was never her fault, it was always to 100% the fault of the men. Gaslighting: We had a video stream and it was obvious she was annoyed and bored. And she told me straight to my face. It is obvious that you are not interested in this call. Which was not the truth. I immediately understood this was gaslighting. She wanted to undermine my feeling to have a sound perception. I had psychosis. And you now that's sort of nasty because you already question your perception all the time. In some ways this could make me an easy target for manipulation of that sort. But I learned from other experiences. She also treated me like a stalker which really really hurt me. And this was one motive to stop the contact with her. She was ghosting me already. She never read my last message where I complimented her and thanked her for the wonderful time.

There was another borderline woman. The first woman I chatted with. She was very ill. She was extremely abusive and we had a doublebind. It caused so much pain. But I learned from that never to be that co-dependent on someone anymore.

I had the feeling some of my bullies might could have been psycho- or sociopaths. But it is a long time ago. And I dislike to think about it. I could not really defend myself properly. I am glad I can dodge such people now as an adult.

I am a vulnerable person for sure. But I have a pretty good feeling whether or not someone is abusive. After a while I can see through people. And my words and reasoning can be a weapon. I don't surround myself with toxic people anymore. Okay maybe one can say the people I mentioned earlier were toxic. Well they turned out to be toxic. But they also had good sides. And they also have good sides. For example how many compliments I received of them. Was this maybe some sort of tactic? Maybe. But I take it anyway. Lol.

I think my autism makes me an honest person. I am not good at lying. I think I have a lot of empathy. And maybe high emotional intelligence I am not sure with that. I think manipulation is not a strength of mine. I had a guilty conscience. I want to be a good person. I think maybe I manipulate people to perceive me in a certain way. I think I am good at that. I think I am pretty deep and I know a lot about myself. You can justify a lot with that because a lot of things can be true depending on which inner feeling you emphasize. I can elaborate a lot on my feelings. But there are shadows which I don't let see many people. On here I am mostly uncensored. But also in my self-help group I have a strict way in how I portray myself and in some way it is dishonest. Because I fade out things which are embarrassing for me. Look this is why I am bad at lying. I have too much of a guilty conscience.

I feel like an imposter. I have a very strong imposter syndrom. And in college so many people told me how smart I was. I think I was a complete faker. Fake it, till you make it. So maybe I am good at manipulation. But I felt so guilty for it. I was also always open that I don't feel that smart. (which did not look good)
I worked my ass off for these grades. Most of it was memorizing shit. Maybe because politics is my special interest it was easier to memorize these facts. I always act like an intelllectual but I am not doing my homework. I quit college I could not play this charade. And it truely wrecked my mental health even more. It was a nightmare. But the imposter feeling was only a small part of the pain.

Sidenote: I think my social contacts are crumbling. I am losing more and more 3 close friends. My dad is in a clinic and we don't have much contact. And my beloved self-help group might be dissolved. I don't know how to cope with that. And I am so fucking frustrated from dating.
 
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WhatCouldHaveBeen32

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Oct 12, 2024
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I'm not good at manipulating others nor am I easy to manipulate, if I see any signs of manipulation I just shut down the conversation, I don't care, have no fear or anxiety of it, or saying it to the person in their face; I don't give a shit anymore.


I could be capable of faking a persona (which doesn't really count as manipulation I think?) however I don't need it.
 
Dejected 55

Dejected 55

Enlightened
May 7, 2025
1,308
I have no ability to manipulate others, and I have never tried to cultivate such skills. I have zero desire to want to manipulate or gaslight anyone for any reason. At best it is cruel, at worst it is abusive.

I cannot be conventionally manipulated either. I say "conventionally" because technically I have been manipulated... but the key is, I knew I was being manipulated. I always see it coming... but... sometimes I am so sad and miserable that I will welcome a bit of manipulation because it is at least attention, and at least it means you want something from me... I know you don't want me for me or as I want to be wanted... but if you didn't want something from me, then you wouldn't bother with manipulation... so sometimes I go along with it for a bit... just in case I'm wrong... but I get tired of it fast.

I can't be gaslit at all. I see that coming too, and I know who I am and what I've done. You can't make me think I did something wrong when I didn't. I freely admit to all the things I get wrong, like I throw myself on my sword faster than you could possibly gaslight me anyway... so don't try to pile on with gaslighting me... because that will just piss me off.
 
EternalHunger

EternalHunger

Starved & Lonely
Sep 3, 2025
65
I'm not sure if whatever I've done in my past relationships/attempts at building close friendships were 'manipulation' but I definitely seem to hurt people in fucked up way, they always end up with extremely toxic dependence that I recognise too late; I have autism so I try my best to be utterly supportive in any way I can be in order to keep someone from getting tired of me (I would also get into everything they are into and genuinely interact with whatever random tangent they go on about which was my favourite memories with how happy it made them feel to be heard radiating onto me), but with how utterly attached to someone I can get I would unintentionally create the kind of bond where they start throwing all their hatred onto me as I tried to be a punching bag for them to aggressively vent on and talk about how much they depend on me/need me while genuinely meaning it, it would get to the point where they start disregarding everyone else in their life which I would try to persuade them not to and them getting increasingly more dependant on me while frequently needing me to stay with them for longer and longer. They view me as the 'only' person they ever need and ignore even their own health/life based on that.

I wouldn't say it's me getting manipulated as I can genuinely tell afterwards I was the one who created that sort of environment, it's always the same pattern as well so I'm sure its something wrong with me inherently which is one of the reasons why I've closed people hard off from getting personal irl/online despite how crushingly lonely I feel; I fucked up so many people that I care about with my own hands who could've otherwise been fine without me, retrospectively I think what I've been doing would be seen as lovebombing but I genuinely meant everything I said and just wanted to be there for them so i don't know anymore, it wasn't as though I just showered them in compliments or smth I was just trying to be a 'good' person while giving them the space they wanted (edit: looking it up and checking stuff I realised lovebombing isn't the right word for what I was doing, I think it's closer to 'enmeshment'; edit 2: idk anymore what it's called)
I believe I just have an extremely twisted view on what I'm supposed to be doing in human interactions.

Also, side note I feel you at the end, I also feel as though I have severe imposter syndrome although it's moreso in relation to my DPDR.
 
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FoxSauce

FoxSauce

Emotional unstable like and IKEA table
Aug 23, 2024
757
Idk how to manipulate ppl and I wouldnt have the heart to

Can i be easily influenced? Yes Ive noticed a few instances moslty with my mom.

Like theres a few instances that my mom has said that: You guys are so unapprecitive and I cant wait till I leave wont have to deal with you guys anymore.

Plus my mom has given me things and layer be like i bought you this and this amd this how you repay me?!

So i can be easily be hooked if you do something nice.

Bruh ramble
 
Lady_V

Lady_V

Please be honest.
Aug 31, 2025
41
It's good you're not considering women with borderline inherently evil, even though you've had your experiences with them.

For me, I'm easy to manipulate. I'm a lil dumb and trusting. The times I could see a way to manipulate, I didn't because I just don't have the hate or energy for all that.
 
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MissAbyss

MissAbyss

"I gazed for too long.."
Jul 20, 2025
23
I've been manipulated and gaslighted almost my whole life. Until I started researching into it. I spent hundreds of hours on it. Now, I have almost master's degree in manipulation.

Don't forget that most human beings are capable of any form of manipulation. On average, this already starts at the age of 3 when the ego is developed.
Of course, there are people who are naturally or through upbringing, environmental or trauma-related more inclined to do this and or highly skilled in it.

Am I capable of manipulation? Yes, I occasionally use (positive) manipulation to benefit others or preferable everyone in the situation, but almost never for my own gain. For this, I have sacrificed myself many times in the past with major consequences.

I thought I could outsmart the last manipulator I encountered in my life once and for all, out of revenge. Unfortunately, it was the beginning of my own downfall.

My advice: stay as far away as possible, unless you're up to it. They'll either drag you down with them, or they'll destroy you without any remorse if necessary. Choose wisely who you let into your life.
 
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