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montanatype

montanatype

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I have a .22lr in my hands, I would have preferred a larger caliber but that is what I got, I think it is enough, since possibly if I commit suicide I will do it in a remote place, therefore I will surely bleed to death at least. I can also take some benzos or maybe combine it with SN, I don't know.

I still think it's enough, I haven't tried it yet, but I would say that aiming at the side of the head (above the ear or behind) should be fine, I also thought about shooting myself in the heart, maybe if I don't fall unconscious directly I can pull the trigger again by aiming there
 
badatparties

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I wouldn't recommend that. Too much risk of becoming a vegetable.
 
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That's why I plan to do it in a remote place, inevitably I will bleed to death.
You might just become immobile and be killed by exposure, or wild animals. You could also suffer a lot. I wouldn't do it.
 
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Ligottian

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There is so much uncertainty with gunshots. People have been killed by low caliber rounds such a the .22. Hell. even shot by blanks and bbs (air rifle) and died. On the other hand, people have survived high caliber rounds point blank to the head. And lets not forget the possibility raised here of severe disability. A real suck ass situation. Like almost most methods I guess.
 
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eternalpace

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You might just become immobile and be killed by exposure, or wild animals. You could also suffer a lot. I wouldn't do it.
Exactly this. One of my biggest nightmares would be going into the forest, failing at my attempt and becoming paralyzed, and being eaten alive by residents of the forest with no means to defend myself.
 
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montanatype

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You might just become immobile and be killed by exposure, or wild animals. You could also suffer a lot. I wouldn't do it.
Well, there are no wild animals around here, and shooting me straight into the brain stem I don't think there would be that much of a problem. I don't think I'll falter when it comes to pulling the trigger and aiming.
 
Liebestod

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Do as much as you possibly can to get a larger caliber. Then the rest is simple. Medium-Large caliber plus proper shot placement (above the ear) or correctly in the mouth equals guaranteed death especially if you are alone.
 
badatparties

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Well, there are no wild animals around here, and shooting me straight into the brain stem I don't think there would be that much of a problem. I don't think I'll falter when it comes to pulling the trigger and aiming.
The brain stem is at the back of the skull, that's impossible. Shooting the brain stem would also most likely just result in paralysis. You are woefully unprepared and have no idea what you're doing.
 
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Do as much as you possibly can to get a larger caliber. Then the rest is simple. Medium-Large caliber plus proper shot placement (above the ear) or correctly in the mouth equals guaranteed death especially if you are alone.
Won't a .22lr do the job? even with hollow bullets?
The brain stem is at the back of the skull, that's impossible. Shooting the brain stem would also most likely just result in paralysis. You are woefully unprepared and have no idea what you're doing.
idk, there has to be some way, it's still a weapon, I'll still see if I can get something bigger
 
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Won't a .22lr do the job? even with hollow bullets?

idk, there has to be some way, it's still a weapon, I'll still see if I can get something bigger
It might but if i do this it would be a 12 gauge shotgun or rifle


 
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Liebestod

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The brain stem is at the back of the skull, that's impossible. Shooting the brain stem would also most likely just result in paralysis. You are woefully unprepared and have no idea what you're doing.
I've been saying this for the longest on here. The brain stem obsession is utterly ridiculous. Cerebral hemorrhaging and obliteration/liquidation of brain tissue is already going to result in immediate death.
 
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Ligottian

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No offense to anyone. But these gunshot posts that talk about calibers, angles, etc. being the best remind of people arguing about their favorite football team. My method will most likely be a .38 Special above my ear. Should that do it Liebestod?
 
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No offense to anyone. But these gunshot posts that talk about calibers, angles, etc. being the best remind of people arguing about their favorite football team. My method will most likely be a .38 Special above my ear. Should that do it Liebestod?
Yes it would work but I personally would go with a more powerful caliber due to its ballistic stats. For example most .38 special rounds travel anywhere from 800-1000 fps. This is a low velocity and velocity is a very important metric for this method because of the equation KE = 1/2 mv squared. I personally am using 10mm auto which is a powerful handgun cartridge and the specific ammo can achieve 1500 fps and 775 ft lbs of energy. Typical .38 special loads achieve about 160-300 ft lbs of energy with the top notch ammo achieving around 400. Most 9mm can achieve 375-400 ft lbs of energy with top notch or plus p loads exceeding 500. Kinetic energy is the component that is doing the damage so it is very important. My suggestion is going with a 9mm at minimum but preferably a 10mm or .357 magnum. Simply due to terminal performance. .38 special is likely to work but with those stats I wouldn't take the chance.
 
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itsgone2

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My suggestion is going with a 9mm at minimum but preferably a 10mm or .357 magnum.
I see this a lot, the concept of 9mm being the minimum. Are you saying it's also risky? I'm considering Glock g17, since it has a longer barrel length
 
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I see this a lot, the concept of 9mm being the minimum. Are you saying it's also risky? I'm considering Glock g17, since it has a longer barrel length
It's terminal performance is usually good enough to due the job but there have been cases of people surviving with a 9mm (usually due to poor shot placement). Its velocity just barely escapes low velocity territory (under 1000 fps).
 
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It's terminal performance is usually good enough to due the job but there have been cases of people surviving with a 9mm (usually due to poor shot placement). Its velocity just barely escapes low velocity territory (under 1000 fps).
thank you. Above ear seems mentioned most commonly on here. Maybe failures were under chin as that seems not recommended
 
Liebestod

Liebestod

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thank you. Above ear seems mentioned most commonly on here. Maybe failures were under chin as that seems not recommended
Yes above the ear is statistically the most successful and is what I'm doing but some people aim in the mouth and miss or the bullet fragments or ricochets because it has low kinetic energy and the maxilla is a strong bone that it needs to pass through to get to the brain. Some people also aim behind the eyes like in the movies and don't end up hitting their brain at all. Regardless there have been plenty of successful attempts with 9mm.
 
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Ligottian

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I'm betting most people who suicide with a pistol to the head don't know jack about things like calibers and angles. But the great majority seem to die. Any comments on this?
 
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ChamberOfEchoes

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The 22mm is a type of weapon that can kill a person even at 100 meters. A suicide shot to the head is a close and vital target. Add to this the fact that you're isolated, and I consider survival highly unlikely.
 
Liebestod

Liebestod

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I'm betting most people who suicide with a pistol to the head don't know jack about things like calibers and angles. But the great majority seem to die. Any comments on this?
You honestly don't need to know much. As long as the projectile penetrates the skull and impacts both hemispheres of the brain you're good as dead.
 
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The 22mm is a type of weapon that can kill a person even at 100 meters. A suicide shot to the head is a close and vital target. Add to this the fact that you're isolated, and I consider survival highly unlikely.
Yeah . A contact shot is many times more lethal than from a distance. handguns are lethal from a distance too.

Funny that I had people debating with me on a thread I posted telling me a bullet hitting the middle of the skull impact velocity of 3000 feet per second 150 grains was survivable

This is simulating a contact shot from a rifle with 3000 ft-lbs plus of energy


 
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ilovenewyork

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Here is a video you should watch of a guy using a low caliber pistol. He shoots himself in the first couple of minutes but for 20 more minutes you can hear him drown in blood and suffocate. He may well have been conscious of this

 
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deathisapanacea

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I've been saying this for the longest on here. The brain stem obsession is utterly ridiculous. Cerebral hemorrhaging and obliteration/liquidation of brain tissue is already going to result in immediate death.
I don't understand where this brain stem obsession syndrome originated from. Its Absurd and Dangerous. Side of the head next to the top of the ears is so tried and tested. Aiming elsewhere should be illegal :smiling:.
I'm betting most people who suicide with a pistol to the head don't know jack about things like calibers and angles. But the great majority seem to die. Any comments on this?
This is exactly my thoughts after watching gun suicides on WPD. People just casually shoot themselves with random guns. Tiny guns, country guns and what not. I am pretty sure they don't know jack shit about velocity, force etc.
 
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WallTermite

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What about combining it with drowning? Like, shot above water, fall into water. Whatever happens one will drown unconsciously. I'm not saying to do it, but it could work
 

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