Discussion Any fans of 'The Traitors' show? Which would you be?

[Forever Sleep]

A Traitor or a Faithful?

I'd want to be a Faithful. Not that I'd want to be on TV or participate in a group event like that. I find the show really fascinating though.

I actually find a lot of 'The Traitor' players really ruthless. Even though it's a game. Even though people sign up- knowing it's a ruthless game- so- it's consensually being manipulated in pursuit of the money. I still think it would feel awful to do that to people you start to get to know and trust. It obviously does get to all of them too. Frequently, players are in tears. Both Traitors and Faithfuls.

It reminds me though of an analysis by a Professor of Psychology in a documentary about Theranos. (The failed company that aimed to run a whole sequence of tests from a single drop of blood.)

Dan Ariely said that in a game where people gambled for money, where there was a way to lie and cheat- most people under regular circumstances will be honest. If they are however- told that they are playing for money to give to charity- they are far more likely to cheat!

So- his comparison was that- because the CEO Elizabeth Holmes was so convinced she was doing something for the greater good- she was willing to go to questionably immoral lengths to get there. Including risking giving people likely false results from crucial blood tests. (Because their machines weren't working and the established methods to test blood require more than a droplet of it.)

I kind of think it's the same in 'The Traitors' though. People seem willing to be ruthless to people they seem to have genuinely befriended in order to get the money. Because they believe they will do good with it. I suppose it's a reflection on life really to. How we justify some of our actions.

I find it a really interesting show to watch though. It does also seem to profoundly affect people. Even though it's just a game, I suppose the stakes are so high and the emotions so intense. I imagine it must be really interesting for those studing psychology/ sociology. Any other fans here?

 

[Alpacachino]

I enjoy the show a lot. I would be a faithful. But I think it's very difficult to prove to the other faithfuls once they are set in their mind that you're a traitor .

Have you seen how the traitors actually behave? They shed literal tears while insisting they're faithful. The acts they put on are so convincing.it's insane.

I also like how many of the other reality show contestants take part in this. I'm also a fan of the challenge and I enjoyed the second season a lot especially because,

Spoiler: season 2

CT won.

Lot of really tense moments all around.

 

[Forever Sleep]

I enjoy the show a lot. I would be a faithful. But I think it's very difficult to prove to the other faithfuls once they are set in their mind that you're a traitor .

Have you seen how the traitors actually behave? They shed literal tears while insisting they're faithful. The acts they put on are so convincing.it's insane.

I also like how many of the other reality show contestants take part in this. I'm also a fan of the challenge and I enjoyed the second season a lot especially because,

Spoiler: season 2

CT won.

Lot of really tense moments all around.

I haven't gotten around to watching other countries versions but, I suspect I will. I've only been watching the UK one.

It's hugely fascinating though. Some absolutely are terrific actors as Traitors but then, with some, you'd think it would look more obvious. But then- we as the viewer have that knowledge and I suppose they are having to look at everyone and simply can't watch everyone all the time. I think I'd be a useless Faithful in real life and an even worse Traitor!

I don't like it when Traitors start to throw one another under the bus- unless it's agreed upon. So- I tend to find it quite satisfying when the tables turn on them. Some literally will use every other player as a pawn piece to sacrifice yet- they're astounded when people do the same to them. I guess it's fun to watch still, which I suppose makes me complicit!

It's fascinating in so many ways I think though. Herd mentality. People strategically holding back votes. I think maybe the nicest thing- although, maybe it's not that nice is: I think people are sometimes kept in because they are simply genuinely nice to be around. I don't think that's always an act as such. It's reassuring to think people might win simply because they are nice.

Spoiler: UK Celebrity Traitors:

I doubt Allan Carr would have won the UK celebrity version if he hadn't been a joy to be around. He literally couldn't say he was a faithful without laughing! And they still didn't banish him! Lol

There again, it's a kind of sad reflection that we don't always go entirely on logic as a species. We are so fooled by other things.

I think the emotional responses are fascinating too. I'm not sure all of the Traitor tears are faked. I think some are burdened with genuine guilt.

They're so clever though- the team that created it and all the changing rules. I read that:

'Its core concept was inspired by the true story of the 17th-century Batavia shipwreck, where survivors on an island were trapped in a mutinous, deadly game of deception.

In 1629, the Dutch vessel Batavia wrecked near Australia, leading to a mutiny where survivors had to figure out who was loyal and who was a murderer.'

There must be films of that story I imagine. Imagine it for real!

 

[NoHorizon]

I've only watched the UK ones but love it. I'd definitely want to be a faithful. I hate getting the "bad" role in social deduction games and I'd enjoy trying to work out who the traitors are more than trying to deceive the faithful.

If you like slasher/horror films, there's a fun film on iplayer at the moment called Bodies Bodies Bodies which is essentially a group of people playing a similar game at a house party.

 

[Arvayn]

I'd love to be a Traitor. I've played many social deduction games for years and mastered them, I think a lot of that experience would translate over nicely.
Plus, my default way of socializing is already pretty Machiavellian, so it'd be hard for people to tell. But that's a double edged sword, because it might make them more paranoid and wary of me. I'd need to hit a sweet spot somehow, and convince the Faithful that I'm genuinely too stupid to lie properly...