Help Alternative for benzos in SN / Is it necessary?

[shesalreadygone]

I see a lot of people struggling on obtaining SN, but in my country, it was fairly easy and cheap to get. However, getting benzos (oxazepam) is where the problem begins for me. I'd most likely have to go see a doctor to hopefully get prescriptions for it. So I was wondering if benzos are 100% necessary for the SN routine, and if it'd be less peaceful if I didn't take them. Also wanted to know if there's an easier to get alternative for it.

 

[ummwhaaat]

I'm not sure exactly what oxazepam does - but if it's anything like other benzos used recreationally (xanax, valium, rivotril) - no it seems they are not necessary.
They may help you dull your SI initially, but from what I've read you'll for sure feel your heart speeding up and they won't prevent you from throwing up (you'd need antiemetics for that). I think mainly they'd be useful for the steps prior to ingesting SN, and a bit after that. If you are sure in your resolve you won't NEED them - but thery could provide comfort. That's from my understanding after reading accounts, the method etc.. I haven't tried this method personally.

 

[SkeletonKey]

Also people on this website talk about using a large quantity of benzos to achieve loss of consciousness before SN's effects kick in, but that contradicts with the fact that you need to stay conscious incase you throw up your first glass and even sometimes the second glass, inspite of AEs it's quite likely you'll still throw up. You need to stay awake so that you can drink successive backup glasses of SN.

Don't know what's up with that.

 

[eggsausagerice]

You need to stay awake so that you can drink successive backup glasses of SN.

tbh you can still die with low doses/even if you vomit. think that even if you throw up your first cup as long as you aren't found for the next few hours the attempt could still succeed. you are right that antiemetics can't stop you from vomiting though

 

[SkeletonKey]

tbh you can still die with low doses/even if you vomit. think that even if you throw up your first cup as long as you aren't found for the next few hours the attempt could still succeed. you are right that antiemetics can't stop you from vomiting though

I know I have read that but "might still succeed" and "could still succeed" kinda make the procedure less surefire then people make SN seem here. And if that's how one wants to go about it and has no problem with it, then they should do so by all means, who am I to tell you what to do.

It's just that the guides (and all people here who write about this) should be less delusional when they prepare extra glasses for backup but then also wanna be knocked out by the benzos to not wanna feel SN's effects.

They should write it like this: "in case i throw up all the SN the first time, I have prepared two more glasses that I can drink, but i won't drink them because I will be knocked out by all the benzos so hopefully i choke on the vomit in my sleep or it's one of those cases where enough grams of SN passed in my intestine to kill me. Fingers crossed hope I don't wake up again"!

Personally I'm going to avoid sedatives and tough it out, that's my plan until I see someone here provide a better solution around this issue. SN is poison, less violent then others, good enough for me.

 

[eggsausagerice]

"in case i throw up all the SN the first time, I have prepared two more glasses that I can drink, but i won't drink them because I will be knocked out by all the benzos so hopefully i choke on the vomit in my sleep or it's one of those cases where enough grams of SN passed in my intestine to kill me. Fingers crossed hope I don't wake up again"!

people do detail in some goodbye posts whether they prepared a second glass for themselves. i think there's a big majority of people that were unable to get access to benzos (myself included), so they have to do it without it. but i honestly think that sn can be considered such a lethal method that vomiting in your sleep can still kill you. a lot of the failed attempts are usually because they went to the hospital or they were found by other people before they died fully.

i understand your opinion though. protocol will never work the same for everyone. there are always circumstances where people survive anyways. it's just a method people choose because they favor it over hanging or jumping.

 

[shesalreadygone]

people do detail in some goodbye posts whether they prepared a second glass for themselves. i think there's a big majority of people that were unable to get access to benzos (myself included), so they have to do it without it. but i honestly think that sn can be considered such a lethal method that vomiting in your sleep can still kill you. a lot of the failed attempts are usually because they went to the hospital or they were found by other people before they died fully.

i understand your opinion though. protocol will never work the same for everyone. there are always circumstances where people survive anyways. it's just a method people choose because they favor it over hanging or jumping.

Vomiting in my sleep can still kill me... Haven't given it too much of a thought but, does this mean that it's best for me to lay down after ingesting it, rather than just sit in a chair?

 

[gardenhouse]

I see a lot of people struggling on obtaining SN, but in my country, it was fairly easy and cheap to get. However, getting benzos (oxazepam) is where the problem begins for me. I'd most likely have to go see a doctor to hopefully get prescriptions for it. So I was wondering if benzos are 100% necessary for the SN routine, and if it'd be less peaceful if I didn't take them. Also wanted to know if there's an easier to get alternative for it.

What country do you live?

 

[Exiled spirit]

Benzos aren't necessary for SN method, but it's very important to take antiemetic to reduce the chance of vomiting. Painkillers also can help ease some discomfort.