Young woman viewed suicide forums before ingesting fatal poison she bought online

[finaldestination22]

Young woman, 22, ingested fatal poison she bought online, inquest told

Grace Nevens, 22, from Morpeth in Northumberland, died in November 2024 in hospital after ingesting poison which she had purchased online.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Caribbean Sky]

Young woman, 22, ingested fatal poison she bought online, inquest told

Grace Nevens, 22, from Morpeth in Northumberland, died in November 2024 in hospital after ingesting poison which she had purchased online.

www.dailymail.co.uk

SN I presume? Is this going to be extremely hard to get genuine? I hope not and don't think so. It's still more common than nembutal once was. But everyone hurry up and get yours. don't panic but just in case

 

[OnMyLast Legs]

Miles Cross, you da real MVP

 

[betternever2havbeen]

Nowhere does it say what issues she was struggling with, it's ALL about the SN and the forum. I guess parents can feel in control of their kids if they just ban everything instead of having to do any real parenting and support their kids through their mental health. They don't care if their kids are suffering as long as the parents know they're trapped here with no way out. They completely minimise what being suicidal is like "oh she would recover"-like maybe, but why aren't you concerned she was feeling SO low to even come on a forum like this and plan her CTB and go through with ordering it and taking it? If they want to play the blame game why don't they ever self reflect on what they could've done differently considering they knew her best not some anonymous people on a forum.

 

[badatparties]

Maybe people should stop and wonder why suicide is the leading cause of death in young people in many countries around the world. What kind of world and society are we bringing these children into.

No one asks these fucking questions, just blame the suicide forum, and get on with business as usual.

 

[U. A.]

May she rest in peace.

To the rest of it, yawn.

 

[peewee]

i dont understand this, if it was done with a rope would they try and ban rope? its so true its easy to blame the substance, instead of self reflecting on what they could have done better.

 

[itsgone2]

I wonder if she was a user here.

As others mentioned it doesn't really explain what she struggled from.

 

[rozeske]

She was beautiful. Rest in peace.

 

[Chemi]

RIP, i hope she can finally rest

 

[nobodycaresaboutme]

I wonder if she was a user here.

As others mentioned it doesn't really explain what she struggled from.

They might be trying to imply that she was not struggling but the "death cult" made her do by not depicting her life challenges.

I hope she is resting well now

 

[peewee]

yes it said she was a user here , RIP

I wonder if she was a user here.

As others mentioned it doesn't really explain what she struggled from.

 

[kuroshimi]

RIP

Tho it's unclear from the article what she was suffering from. Of course, it's easy to blame literally anything internet-related (since the goverments want more control over the net) and this is actually pisses me off as I live under authoritarian regime.

No one will get to the root of the problem because no one gives a fuck.

 

[Dante_]

Maybe people should stop and wonder why suicide is the leading cause of death in young people in many countries around the world. What kind of world and society are we bringing these children into.

I think its about time or at least, should've been where a conversation like this happens, broader questions need to be asked why a lot of young people do decide that they've just seen enough pain and suffering, too much contend with and not enough to justify keep living either. RIP

 

[badatparties]

Tho it's unclear from the article what she was suffering from. Of course, it's easy to blame literally anything internet-related (since the goverments want more control over the net) and this is actually pisses me off as I live under authoritarian regime.

No one will get to the root of the problem because no one gives a fuck.

Life is the root of the problem unfortunately. People don't want to admit that, and so they will keep on trying Band Aid solutions that don't work.

 

[Dante_]

Life is the root of the problem unfortunately. People don't want to admit that, and so they will keep on trying Band Aid solutions that don't work.

I guess people would rather not admit the nature of life itself, how hazardous and risky it really is to where the many solutions present dont really account for the source of all conscious suffering being life itself.

 

[badatparties]

I guess people would rather not admit the nature of life itself, how hazardous and risky it really is to where the many solutions present dont really account for the source of all conscious suffering being life itself.

There are a lot of systems, mainly religion, keeping them from thinking about this. Going against the status quo would be blasphemous against the flying spaghetti monster.

Can't have people questioning gods will and what not. Life really did find genius ways of perpetuating itself.

 

[itsgone2]

yes it said she was a user here , RIP

Oh. Yeah it does say she exchanged messages. I wonder who it was.

 

[badatparties]

Oh. Yeah it does say she exchanged messages. I wonder who it was.

This is why you should never give anyone on here any directions, or explicit instructions about anything. Everything is stickied. Let them find it on their own.

Give instructions to prevent harm only. The last thing you need is the cops showing up at your door.

 

[whywere]

I am 100% pro-choice, but after over 5 years on here, I would never ever give anyone help, education, anything on ctb.

Not only the moral and legal implications, but it is also just totally against my belief system.

I have had folks move on, on here and it has hurt like HELL and even given me nightmares.

We are ALL in this together, not just in the physical sense but so VERY much more.

Walter

 

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They completely minimise what being suicidal is like "oh she would recover"-like maybe, but why aren't you concerned she was feeling SO low to even come on a forum like this and plan her CTB and go through with ordering it and taking it? If they want to play the blame game why don't they ever self reflect on what they could've done differently considering they knew her best not some anonymous people on a forum.

I do believe in all circumstances involving personal stories, unless a family member (or someone who's acting under their specific direction) is literally posting on this forum and directly addressing us, it behooves us to avoid making any statements at all about them.

If a grieving family is focusing their anger on this forum, then the likelihood is they are being failed by the same institutions that are failing us, and they should not be subject to criticism or expectations to "self-reflect" amidst extraordinary grief, the nature of which the average person has no comprehension of and could only hope to never have to face in life, themselves.

Address journalists, address government officials, address the general public, address anyone else. But leave the grieving family be.

 

[SilentSadness]

Yet another article about a grieving family immediately blaming the internet instead of accepting that there can be other reasons to ctb. They say "it was anticipated that she would be able to recover" which makes it sound like they didn't even ask the person whether they thought that, so no wonder they have no idea why the person ctb'd. The third section of the article is actual drivel, they are reaching out to authoritarian politicians to encourage them to increase their censorship, which I think is seriously deplorable and I have no empathy for this family whatsoever. They will never understand why the person ctb'd since they refuse to listen to others.

 

[U. A.]

I do believe in all circumstances involving personal stories, unless a family member (or someone who's acting under their specific direction) is literally posting on this forum and directly addressing us, it behooves us to avoid making any statements at all about them.

If a grieving family is focusing their anger on this forum, then the likelihood is they are being failed by the same institutions that are failing us, and they should not be subject to criticism or expectations to "self-reflect" amidst extraordinary grief, the nature of which the average person has no comprehension of and could only hope to never have to face in life, themselves.

Address journalists, address government officials, address the general public, address anyone else. But leave the grieving family be.

I literally couldn't even post a jocular reply warning you about torches and pitchforks before yet another comment like the one you replied to went up. waow

 

[FadingSnowFake]

Rest is peace, beautiful girl. This always annoys me:

Grace's family and others have written to Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer calling for a public inquiry over suicide forums.

The forums are not the issue! But it seems that only us forum members know this.

 

[badatparties]

Yet another article about a grieving family immediately blaming the internet instead of accepting that there can be other reasons to ctb. They say "it was anticipated that she would be able to recover" which makes it sound like they didn't even ask the person whether they thought that, so no wonder they have no idea why the person ctb'd. The third section of the article is actual drivel, they are reaching out to authoritarian politicians to encourage them to increase their censorship, which I think is seriously deplorable and I have no empathy for this family whatsoever. They will never understand why the person ctb'd since they refuse to listen to others.

I sympathize with them, but unfortunately, they would probably vote against the right to die as well.

 

[Shiitake]

i get so triggered when families get mad at the supplier, and not that there was an emotional bridge to maybe hear her out, its as if its in human nature to act on the most obvious link instead of the one that mattered, no matter the issue, and i dont blame the parents.
C

Nowhere does it say what issues she was struggling with, it's ALL about the SN and the forum. I guess parents can feel in control of their kids if they just ban everything instead of having to do any real parenting and support their kids through their mental health. They don't care if their kids are suffering as long as the parents know they're trapped here with no way out. They completely minimise what being suicidal is like "oh she would recover"-like maybe, but why aren't you concerned she was feeling SO low to even come on a forum like this and plan her CTB and go through with ordering it and taking it? If they want to play the blame game why don't they ever self reflect on what they could've done differently considering they knew her best not some anonymous people on a forum.

clearly stated that the family was left with no answer, also that she was healing and on medication, i believe its the parents idea that she was healing and her buying Sn was due to impulse.

Life is the root of the problem unfortunately. People don't want to admit that, and so they will keep on trying Band Aid solutions that don't work.

nope, its the misrepresentation of what life should be.

 

[betternever2havbeen]

I do believe in all circumstances involving personal stories, unless a family member (or someone who's acting under their specific direction) is literally posting on this forum and directly addressing us, it behooves us to avoid making any statements at all about them.

If a grieving family is focusing their anger on this forum, then the likelihood is they are being failed by the same institutions that are failing us, and they should not be subject to criticism or expectations to "self-reflect" amidst extraordinary grief, the nature of which the average person has no comprehension of and could only hope to never have to face in life, themselves.

Address journalists, address government officials, address the general public, address anyone else. But leave the grieving family be.

But the article does NOTHING to help anyone with MH issues or help any families see the warning signs. But ok I'll assume you just agree with them saying-" the pro-suicide forum which they said 'promotes and encourages' vulnerable people to take their own lives and selling a poisonous substance." because that's bullshit.

ETA-remember these people are trying to take this forum away from us, it's not like anyone is criticising them for their grief they're criticising them wanting to take away our support network and making out the site preys on the vulnerable. I'd never blame anyone for a suicide but these families always do hence my response to that. At the least we need far more info about what was going on with her-and if they don't know well then that says a lot doesn't it. And I've had plenty of grief thanks, most of my family are dead. No I won't lose a kid because I wouldn't bring a child here in the first place who might be in that much pain-sorry for focusing on this young woman's suffering and not thinking the world revolves around parents constantly.

 

[-Link-]

But ok I'll assume you just agree with them saying-" the pro-suicide forum which they said 'promotes and encourages' vulnerable people to take their own lives and selling a poisonous substance." because that's bullshit.

It's not so much a matter of agreeing or disagreeing as it is just leaving a family be to grieve their loss.

Anger is part of the grieving process, and sometimes that anger can be misplaced. When that happens, it's up to institutional support systems (government officials, the media, healthcare workers, etc.) to help the family through that as part of helping them through the grieving process as a whole.

Here, the UK government has an ongoing crusade against this forum, and the Daily Mail is prioritizing clickbait headlines over nuanced journalism. Both these institutions are failing to address the larger picture, and in this, the members of this forum aren't the only ones being failed. The family is being failed, too.

But the article does NOTHING to help anyone with MH issues or help any families see the warning signs.

The Daily Mail won't be interested in a productive discussion of any kind, but if you or anyone else has time for a bit of reading, I (and many others) did expound on this topic in a different thread a couple months ago: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/new-article-on-sasu.216430/post-3141760 (wru Sophie Wilkinson?)

 

[WhatCouldHaveBeen32]

Ugh the people who are talking about beauty and how beautiful she was , that's all that matters to some people. (Don't reply to me trying to debate this by the way.)

Rest in peace, this shallow world doesn't deserve any of it's inhabitants and neither do they deserve it. Such a cursed species, my anger for it grows everyday.

 

[cme-dme]

Ugh the people who are talking about beauty and how beautiful she was , that's all that matters to some people. (Don't reply to me trying to debate this by the way.)

Rest in peace, this shallow world doesn't deserve any of it's inhabitants and neither do they deserve it. Such a cursed species, my anger for it grows everyday.

I hate seeing this as well like it implies that people cannot be pretty and commit suicide at the same time but maybe I'm just bitter.