“You’ll end up as a vegetable”

[Mrnobody2019]

Every thread I've come across regarding hanging always has a few comments about getting it wrong leading to becoming a "vegetable" which would be "worse". But would it? If you become severely brain damaged you probably won't even know what's going on anymore, which seems a lot better than consciously feeling shit and hating every aspect of life

 

[Jean Améry]

I'm not a doctor but the extent of the damage would probably determine how much one is still conscious of one's situation. Would you really want to take the chance that life becomes even worse with the added bonus there's nothing you can do about it?

 

[TAW122]

Oh yes, I hate it when I hear about it, especially on Reddit's disgusting SW subreddit. The reason I am so disgusting and offended by it, is the fact that the posters and replies are coming from a place of ignorance and selfishness. They do NOT know much about the methods and how they work, then in addition to that, they have a selfish 'vibe' when it comes to dissuading people. So in short, they want to prevent someone from seeking relief from a hellish existence.

Now granted, if someone who isn't sure about a method and/or is clearly about to execute it inappropriate/incorrectly, then there is some merit to people who say that said person would end up as a vegetable. That is because they have some objective basis and rational fact about whether the attempt will work, rather than coming off as dissuading the person from making his/her own personal choice.

 

[CrushedHopes]

Every thread I've come across regarding hanging always has a few comments about getting it wrong leading to becoming a "vegetable" which would be "worse". But would it? If you become severely brain damaged you probably won't even know what's going on anymore, which seems a lot better than consciously feeling shit and hating every aspect of life

If the goal is to successfully CTB, then severe brain damage isn't an option. You need to do it properly. It's possible that hanging could go wrong. You don't want that. I don't know the consequences of failing to die via hanging, but there's gotta be better ways in terminating yourself.

 

[Mrnobody2019]

I just personally think that no one on this forum would ever be able to go through with hanging, asking how is probably the first major mistake, no chance of beating survival instinct after spending days reading how "perfect" it has to be to work, anyone that doesn't pass out immidiately will stop and just keep practicing until they either do pass out or never reach that point. I wonder how many successful deaths by hanging actually caused unconsciousness in the way everyone on this forum seeks

 

[Lethe]

Every thread I've come across regarding hanging always has a few comments about getting it wrong leading to becoming a "vegetable" which would be "worse". But would it? If you become severely brain damaged you probably won't even know what's going on anymore, which seems a lot better than consciously feeling shit and hating every aspect of life

I imagine it would depend on which area of the brain is damaged. Think about sleep paralysis, for example; you're awake and conscious, but can't move, talk etc. Now imagine that for the rest of your life. Regardless, I don't know how anyone could seriously consider hanging, especially after seeing that gruesome botched attempt someone posted recently.

 

[DoNotLet2]

That's one of the reasons why euthanasia should be allowed. It's done by a doctor who can kill.
Yeah that's why I am hesitating to go ctb even though my mind is aware there is little possible to be done to improve my life.

 

[Longman]

If you become severely brain damaged you probably won't even know what's going on anymore

Or you would become fully paralyzed, but keep your mental abilities.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sad-story.11758/post-231164

 

[WilliamKline]

I just personally think that no one on this forum would ever be able to go through with hanging, asking how is probably the first major mistake, no chance of beating survival instinct after spending days reading how "perfect" it has to be to work, anyone that doesn't pass out immidiately will stop and just keep practicing until they either do pass out or never reach that point. I wonder how many successful deaths by hanging actually caused unconsciousness in the way everyone on this forum seeks

I agree so much, I was heavily suicidal before, bought a rope, tied a hangmans knot (not the right knot but it sounded right) and drove into the night looking for a high enough tree without any people around. Couldn't find a decent tree. Now I've been researching I have been completely dissuaded from hanging.

 

[Brick In The Wall]

Hanging was my main method but this was always a fear in the back of my mind. I have since moved suspension hanging to my secondary method of choice and replaced it with SN.

Both methods have the potential for brain damage. However, I think SN would be harder for them to save you in time if you have properly disposed of the remaining supplies. SA would be my main method if it weren't potentially dangerous to others.

 

[DoNotLet2]

Or you would become fully paralyzed, but keep your mental abilities.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sad-story.11758/post-231164

That's such a bad story about sadistic mother who keeps her child alive even though it makes just costs and pain... Now I have doubts about hanging...

 

[WhiteDespair]

A guy I knew is high school had a heart condition, stroke or somesuch. He lost a lot of intelligence as a result and he knows it. It has to suck knowing that you could do something and now you can't.

 

[Neurodamaged2]

I've failed at hanging twice. I'm not a vegetable but I've lost a lot of mental capacity. I can't really separate out that damage from the damage caused by the ECT and drugs over the past few months but let's just say every day is a numb hell but I no longer have it in me to hang myself again. Nothing feels real, I don't think of things I should easily think of, I can't close my eyes and rest because my mind is mentally messed up and I don't want to see it. And my memory is just gone, I can't remember most of this year, what happened a few days ago, etc. I'm lucky that I'm emotionally dead because otherwise I'd be panicking or crying or otherwise, because now for sure I have to commit suicide or I'm just gonna end up in a home - don't have the will or capability to take care of myself anymore.

 

[tiredofpain]

I've failed at hanging twice. I'm not a vegetable but I've lost a lot of mental capacity. I can't really separate out that damage from the damage caused by the ECT and drugs over the past few months but let's just say every day is a numb hell but I no longer have it in me to hang myself again. And my memory is just gone, I can't remember most of this year, what happened a few days ago, etc.

How did you fail? I intend on suspention hanging from a secure beam in the attic. take a few xanax, Rope, slipknot, bag over head, kick the chair out and die. I'm alone, no one will discover me. I'll program a couple of e-mails to go out in 24 hrs to get found. Yes, there will be some pain but I'm okay with that.

 

[Neurodamaged2]

How did you fail? I intend on suspention hanging from a secure beam in the attic. take a few xanax, Rope, slipknot, bag over head, kick the chair out and die. I'm alone, no one will discover me. I'll program a couple of e-mails to go out in 24 hrs to get found. Yes, there will be some pain but I'm okay with that.

The first time I didn't tie the rope off on the beam, just wrapped it around a few times, the second I was found and resuscitated.

I used to be really smart and now I'm a hollow shell who's kinda dumb and can't socialize. I can't hold a proper conversation anymore and it's obvious.

 

[tiredofpain]

The first time I didn't tie the rope off on the beam, just wrapped it around a few times, the second I was found and resuscitated.

I used to be really smart and now I'm a hollow shell who's kinda dumb and can't socialize. I can't hold a proper conversation anymore and it's obvious.

Okay, well those are easy fixes, I won't be found for sure and I'll be sure to tie off the rope to the beam.

 

[Sweet emotion]

Every thread I've come across regarding hanging always has a few comments about getting it wrong leading to becoming a "vegetable" which would be "worse". But would it? If you become severely brain damaged you probably won't even know what's going on anymore, which seems a lot better than consciously feeling shit and hating every aspect of life

People say that about every kind of death. But I wouldn't want to live brain dead. What if you can hear and see and just can't speak? What I'd you're aware of everything going on around you but can't tell anyone and then can't kill yourself because you can't move? All these things go through my mind.

 

[FallenX]

People say that about every kind of death. But I wouldn't want to live brain dead. What if you can hear and see and just can't speak? What I'd you're aware of everything going on around you but can't tell anyone and then can't kill yourself because you can't move? All these things go through my mind.

This is why I'm hesitant to CTB although I want to

 

[bigj75]

I woke up from hanging a few times. not a vegetative either. its difficult to really end up like that unless you are deliberately trying to have someone save you on the middle of it.

 

[MeltingHeart]

That's such a bad story about sadistic mother who keeps her child alive even though it makes just costs and pain... Now I have doubts about hanging...

but would she have been allowed to have 'turned off'the support or whatever they call it?...i dont know how the law works in these cases- yeah its such a sad story.

I woke up from hanging a few times. not a vegetative either. its difficult to really end up like that unless you are deliberately trying to have someone save you on the middle of it.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/sport...a/news-story/b1dc35cf8622ad4a577d767be6040dcf

ive read a few such sad cases. and it has never seemed like they were 'delberately' trying to be saved. The opposite is true I would say.
Also you 'woke up' from hanging? i dont think u were hanging then. you dont just 'wake up' if u r properly doing that im afraid to say.

 

[Trainwreck]

It will help if you have an advanced directive/living will. I have one that says that in the event that I'm in a coma, I want no measures taken (feeding tube, ventilator, etc.) beyond comfort care (pain meds). However, I believe this only covers a coma or severe brain damage (like Terry Schiavo). If it's physical damage, you're still screwed.

Edit: Also, an advanced directive is not a DNR. They will still revive you when you are found, but will pull the plug when it's determined your brain is fried. I'm going to attempt to get a DNR, but am unsure my doc will go along with it. I have several health problems, but I'm only in my 40s. I'm trying to put together a convinsive argument, like my frail body wouldn't do well with chest compressions (I have osteoporosis), and stories of a friend and relative who were revived, only to have their families pull the plug a couple week later (one was a head injury, the other was a weird adverse reaction to a new med).

 

[DoNotLet2]

Well in Poland you have to help a person that suffered from an accident, that's right, but you don't really have to agree to save your child at the hospital. Well it should have been better explained in the article.

 

[Throwawaysoul]

I don't want to become that Metallica One song. That's my fear. What if I can hear everything and do nothing. What if the nurses leave bubblegum country music on in my room all day long. What if I have to hear about there mundane lives all day. Typing this makes me shiver.

I can't risk that. I rather suffer alive.

 

[JSauter]

My goal is to go somewhere for 72 hours uninterrupted so no possibility of rescucitation into a vegetative state is possible. I will likely die untreated if suicide is incomplete. If that means someone has to deal with a bloated corpse, so be it...change the law to allow me to die with dignity on my own terms, and allow me to determine that I don't want hospital treatment...if not, deal with the ghastly site of me.

 

[19.]

I would hate to end up as a vegetable. That's my biggest fear, becoming incompetent and immobile.

 

[Mrnobody2019]

As long as you're not found then I can't see how it can really go wrong. We've probably all seen the video of that woman's hanging going horribly wrong, but had it? I mean she died in the end and we don't really know if anyone who has successfully hung themselves slipped off right away or struggled violently for a while, aside from the odd video of someone getting it right (well right by our standards)

 

[SpanishLullaby]

https://www.news.com.au/sport/sport...a/news-story/b1dc35cf8622ad4a577d767be6040dcf

ive read a few such sad cases. and it has never seemed like they were 'delberately' trying to be saved.

I'm sorry but this guy doesnt look like he wanted to be saved. He looks half dead and pitiful. Nothing close to how he looked when he was alive. And those people smiling next to him ought to be ashamed of themselves. They look like selfish fools posing and smiling next to a guy thats looks half dead and miserable. Just like this one here.

https://metro.co.uk/2017/10/26/mums...rved-of-oxygen-after-suicide-attempt-7028654/

 

[MeltingHeart]

I'm sorry but this guy doesnt look like he wanted to be saved. He looks half dead and pitiful. Nothing close to how he looked when he was alive. And those people smiling next to him ought to be ashamed of themselves. They look like selfish fools posing and smiling next to a guy thats looks half dead and miserable. Just like this one here.

https://metro.co.uk/2017/10/26/mums...rved-of-oxygen-after-suicide-attempt-7028654/

I know its so so sad- and when you consider they wanted to die even before being in that state! people should just let them go...its hard..but what kind of life is that? :(

 

[Deleted member 1768]

Every thread I've come across regarding hanging always has a few comments about getting it wrong leading to becoming a "vegetable" which would be "worse". But would it? If you become severely brain damaged you probably won't even know what's going on anymore, which seems a lot better than consciously feeling shit and hating every aspect of life

Real life case: https://metro.co.uk/2017/10/26/mums...rved-of-oxygen-after-suicide-attempt-7028654/

 

[reapandsow918]

I disagree with hanging being a poor method to ctb. Some people do not have the resources, time or opportunities to order SN or go out another way. That's why it's cautioned to make sure you would be alone for at least 30minutes during a hanging attempt.