Discussion Why use N when I can use SN?

[Eye_wanna_leave]

Sorry for my bad English! I think N is just an expensive and fancy version of SN. They both taste so bad and almost impossible to swallow the whole thing without throwing it up and they both need fasting and tons of pills before drinking them. Why buy N for ~800$ when I can buy SN for less than 10$ and get same results? Am I right? Or is there something I'm missing?

 

[sandalphon]

Yes, there's something you're missing. With N, you drift off to sleep in a matter of seconds. With SN, it takes a bit longer to lose consciousness, and there are some unpleasant side effects like nausea etc.

Many people are perfectly willing to shell out a thousand dollars to have a more peaceful passing. Not to say that SN is a terrible way to go, but N is called the gold standard for a reason.

They both taste so bad

Yes.

almost impossible to swallow the whole thing without throwing it up

Not true. You don't even need AE for N most of the time -- it's just a precaution.

both need fasting

Don't quote me on this, but I don't think N requires fasting. Again, it's just an extra precautionary measure to avoid vomiting. With SN, fasting is essential.

tons of pills before drinking them

You can CTB with just SN, the other items just make it easier. Same thing with N, the AE is just to be sure you don't vomit. Most healthy adults can take just N and nothing else.

 

[Eye_wanna_leave]

Yes, there's something you're missing. With N, you drift off to sleep in a matter of seconds. With SN, it takes a bit longer to lose consciousness, and there are some unpleasant side effects like nausea etc.

Many people are perfectly willing to shell out a thousand dollars to have a more peaceful passing. Not to say that SN is a terrible way to go, but N is called the gold standard for a reason.

Yes.

Not true. You don't even need AE for N most of the time -- it's just a precaution.

Don't quote me on this, but I don't think N requires fasting. Again, it's just an extra precautionary measure to avoid vomiting. With SN, fasting is essential.


You can CTB with just SN, the other items just make it easier. Same thing with N, the AE is just to be sure you don't vomit. Most healthy adults can take just N and nothing else.

This is a great answer now I understand more. I prefer SN tho. Thank you my friend!

 

[Hangman]

From what I can remember, SN may cause nausea, dizziness, headache, ringing in the ears, faster heartbeat, faster breathing, loss of feeling in extremities, blueness, in addition to tasting bad.

I don't think it's so much the suffering, but having these symptoms may induce SI. With N there's not much else than bad taste and then you fall asleep.

This is based on what I have read.

While N is expensive, it's not that expensive for arguably the most peaceful suicide method. It's potentially the last costly thing one buys.

 

[PeacefulTonic]

Yes, there's something you're missing. With N, you drift off to sleep in a matter of seconds. With SN, it takes a bit longer to lose consciousness, and there are some unpleasant side effects like nausea etc.

Many people are perfectly willing to shell out a thousand dollars to have a more peaceful passing. Not to say that SN is a terrible way to go, but N is called the gold standard for a reason.

Yes.

Not true. You don't even need AE for N most of the time -- it's just a precaution.

Don't quote me on this, but I don't think N requires fasting. Again, it's just an extra precautionary measure to avoid vomiting. With SN, fasting is essential.


You can CTB with just SN, the other items just make it easier. Same thing with N, the AE is just to be sure you don't vomit. Most healthy adults can take just N and nothing else.

N needs an 8 hour fast. But you're right about everything else

 

[Account unknown]

Yes, there's something you're missing. With N, you drift off to sleep in a matter of seconds. With SN, it takes a bit longer to lose consciousness, and there are some unpleasant side effects like nausea etc.

Many people are perfectly willing to shell out a thousand dollars to have a more peaceful passing. Not to say that SN is a terrible way to go, but N is called the gold standard for a reason.

Yes.

Not true. You don't even need AE for N most of the time -- it's just a precaution.

Don't quote me on this, but I don't think N requires fasting. Again, it's just an extra precautionary measure to avoid vomiting. With SN, fasting is essential.


You can CTB with just SN, the other items just make it easier. Same thing with N, the AE is just to be sure you don't vomit. Most healthy adults can take just N and nothing else.

Yeah personally I'd consider N in a heartbeat but I don't think I'd choose SN unless I was desperate.

Some of the things I've read about experiences with SN and CTB have completely put me off it despite the fact many people seem to advocate for its use here. It doesn't seem anywhere near as "peaceful" as a lot of people make out and we don't really know enough about it, most of its advocates only base it off of theory from what I've seen.

I'm not trying to dissuade anyone else or shit on the method btw, it's just not for me but I'd take N in a second if I had it.

 

[Versailles]

I think N is what many are looking for here because the method is one of the least complex and some do not like the idea of vomiting